Have you ever used Cocaine?
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Ah, I see! Sorry that took me a while to get, as if you had to puncture a hymen of respectability in my mind.Vault101 said:
Yep! And just like with Weed the experience is far from what the media describes it as.
Should it be legal? Sure, The world didn't end when it was legal originally (like, what, a hundred years ago?) and as long as I'm doing it to myself and putting no one else in danger then nobody has any right to tell me what I can or cannot put in my body or do to my brain.
Should it be legal? Sure, The world didn't end when it was legal originally (like, what, a hundred years ago?) and as long as I'm doing it to myself and putting no one else in danger then nobody has any right to tell me what I can or cannot put in my body or do to my brain.
Never, just like any other harddrug. Not planning on using it in the near future either.
Not anything against it though.
You need to do more...then the only negative effect is lying face down on the floor drooling while your brain melts for what feels like eternity, and possibly loosing control of your bladder permanently, happened to a mate of mines ex girlfriend (obviously she did loads over a course of years, snorking down a gram at a time kind of level), now the poor girl has to walk around with a sort of catheter (dunno what the female version is called, maybe the same thing) and a little bag to catch it all. I don't think it's common, it's the only time I've heard of it happening and I know a lot of people that do a lot of K but I doubt the doctors would have been bullshitting her about it. They do sometimes go on guesswork but they generally have to tell you it's a best guess rather than stating that is definitely the cause.RazadaMk2 said:
Used it once a line, Wow that was a nice boost of energy. But i never did it again. Oddly enough i never did any hard drugs, Cocaine was my first hard drug, never did nothing else not even weed.
I love that effect. The K-hole is the only reason i ever touched the stuff, i don't really see the point of it in a social setting, it just makes everyone and everything weird and awkward. Someone brings K to a houseparty and there's always a room full of people dribbling and talking nonsense all in their own little world. The K-hole in a nice comfy bed is out-of-body-experience levels of craziness, i've relived entire past experiences as memories, in real time, all sorts.DirtyJunkieScum said:
K and DMT, the two most mind-blowing drug's you could possibly take, imho.
No, and I have no interest in doing so. I've smoked weed once or twice at festivals and such, but only when friends have been passing it round. I've never paid for drugs.
That said, I do think more of these things should be legalised, if only to ensure that people who are using (and there will always be people who do) aren't taking even more risks than the obvious one. The fact that drugs are totally unregulated and you could be putting pretty much ANYTHING into your body without realising it is terrifying.
From my experience, weed is no worse than alcohol. In fact, it had less of an effect than booze. To be honest, I was completely underwhelmed after the way drugs had been built up in my mind. The way people go on about it, you'd think taking any sort of illegal drug once would result in instant death. And once people find out, either through their own experience or that of a friend, that a lot of the anti-drug message is overblown, they lose all respect for or belief in it, and may well go on to try much harder and more dangerous drugs, or just be less careful about it. I don't doubt that some drugs can cause serious health problems, but so can the legal (and addictive) drugs that are freely available, namely alcohol and tobacco. At least if they're regulated we can know what we're dealing with.
That said, I do think more of these things should be legalised, if only to ensure that people who are using (and there will always be people who do) aren't taking even more risks than the obvious one. The fact that drugs are totally unregulated and you could be putting pretty much ANYTHING into your body without realising it is terrifying.
From my experience, weed is no worse than alcohol. In fact, it had less of an effect than booze. To be honest, I was completely underwhelmed after the way drugs had been built up in my mind. The way people go on about it, you'd think taking any sort of illegal drug once would result in instant death. And once people find out, either through their own experience or that of a friend, that a lot of the anti-drug message is overblown, they lose all respect for or belief in it, and may well go on to try much harder and more dangerous drugs, or just be less careful about it. I don't doubt that some drugs can cause serious health problems, but so can the legal (and addictive) drugs that are freely available, namely alcohol and tobacco. At least if they're regulated we can know what we're dealing with.
As I said, me too, but she sure as hell has a little drip bag on her leg and that's what she said the docs told her. Years of constant drug abuse can cause odd things to break down. I've had 2 ex girlfiriends who's menstrual cycle shut down, that was due to rocks admittedly but still, that's the point, there aren't many people that take drug use (especially K) to the sort of everyday constant use that you usually see in crack and heroin and when they do it can do odd things. Another ex of mine never started her period because she started shooting up speed aged 11, her hair started falling out in her mid teens as well and eventuallt started loosing her teeth. Bet you've never heard of that happen to any of these people. There is a big difference between "people who do a lot of drugs" and real "hardcore abusers".Res Plus said:
Yeah it can be fun but like most psychedelics a lot of it depends on your state of mind as I'm sure you know. Mixing it with coke is..."interesting"...seeing as it's not only hitting you with a disassociative anaesthetic but also a massive stimulant, your brain's going off at 100mph at the same time as all the external stimuli are being shut off and it goes even more mental than it would normally.Shpongled said:
captcha: "run the gauntlet" ... lolololol.
I have used cocaine in the past and I perceived it as a pointless thing to take! The buzz only lasts for 10 mins then you have to have another line & its ludicrously expensive!
Its also a dirty drug like pills and speed. You have no idea what the stuff is cut with and the horrible come down you get later is due to your body having to recover with whatever 'extras' were in them.
I don't take drugs anymore, as I did them in my teens & early 20s and they no longer appeal to me, im too old & i know I wouldn't have the same experiences as I did when I was younger.
Im not advocating drugs at all. Used in the wrong hands & situation can have dire consequences.
But I know there are people on here who do use drugs or are considering using them so I will say this. If you are going to use drugs or want to try them with your friends, then do it in a room together like a living room. Read up on what you are going to take & what you can do if something goes wrong. Also if you are sure you want to take a drug the drug I would recommend is MDMA. Its a clear/white crystalised powder which is basically pure ecstasy. This means that it isn't cut with anything else, and the comedown you'll have won't be horrible, also out of all the recreational drugs apart form weed its the safest one (as safe as a drug can be).
Make sure you stock up on sucky sweets and chewing gum (you are going gurn and this can cause alot of damage to the inside of your mouth). The most imortant thing is when you get thirsty (and you will), DO NOT DOWN A PINT OF WATER! Only have a gulp every 10-20 mins or so. The reason being is the main cause of death from party drugs is that people guzzle down water when they're thirsty. When you are on these drugs your body cannot absorb the liquid as quickly as it normally can, so if you drink too much water then you will flood your brain!
One thing that can happen is that some people can freak out & this causes their body temperature to rise. If this happens, get them to take their top off and rub themselves down with a cold wet flannel. If you feel yourself getting too hot, do it to yourself. Don't take a cold shower as that would be too much of a shock for your body.
Once again can I point out that I am NOT advertising drugs at all! I am trying to be informative and hopefully educate the memebers of this community that are considering using drugs. Considering the horror stories I have heard I count me & my friends lucky that we did them in a safe enviroment inside, and new what was going to happen & knew what to do if something went wrong, and thankfully nothing did.
Its also a dirty drug like pills and speed. You have no idea what the stuff is cut with and the horrible come down you get later is due to your body having to recover with whatever 'extras' were in them.
I don't take drugs anymore, as I did them in my teens & early 20s and they no longer appeal to me, im too old & i know I wouldn't have the same experiences as I did when I was younger.
Im not advocating drugs at all. Used in the wrong hands & situation can have dire consequences.
But I know there are people on here who do use drugs or are considering using them so I will say this. If you are going to use drugs or want to try them with your friends, then do it in a room together like a living room. Read up on what you are going to take & what you can do if something goes wrong. Also if you are sure you want to take a drug the drug I would recommend is MDMA. Its a clear/white crystalised powder which is basically pure ecstasy. This means that it isn't cut with anything else, and the comedown you'll have won't be horrible, also out of all the recreational drugs apart form weed its the safest one (as safe as a drug can be).
Make sure you stock up on sucky sweets and chewing gum (you are going gurn and this can cause alot of damage to the inside of your mouth). The most imortant thing is when you get thirsty (and you will), DO NOT DOWN A PINT OF WATER! Only have a gulp every 10-20 mins or so. The reason being is the main cause of death from party drugs is that people guzzle down water when they're thirsty. When you are on these drugs your body cannot absorb the liquid as quickly as it normally can, so if you drink too much water then you will flood your brain!
One thing that can happen is that some people can freak out & this causes their body temperature to rise. If this happens, get them to take their top off and rub themselves down with a cold wet flannel. If you feel yourself getting too hot, do it to yourself. Don't take a cold shower as that would be too much of a shock for your body.
Once again can I point out that I am NOT advertising drugs at all! I am trying to be informative and hopefully educate the memebers of this community that are considering using drugs. Considering the horror stories I have heard I count me & my friends lucky that we did them in a safe enviroment inside, and new what was going to happen & knew what to do if something went wrong, and thankfully nothing did.
Yeh that's the problem really, as you said in your earlier post, people take too much of it and they just aren't in the right mind set/setting to enjoy the craziness, so they start panicking and it all spirals down from there. Which i guess is the reason most people tend to consider the k-hole something to avoid, they just aren't in the environment for it.DirtyJunkieScum said:
I've combined it with phetamine before, wasn't an enjoyable experience, it was just too much for my brain to cope with at once really, the speed pulling me one way and the K another. My heart probably wasn't having a fun time of it either. MDMA was the only stimulanty sort of drug that worked with K for me, had some beautiful visuals on that combo. Also emotional times, i remember crying my eyes out with a girlfriend about how beautiful life actually is and how we all mistreat ourselves and each other for poor reasons, realizing how good life can be if you let it. This was from 3 LSD tabs, 3 200mg bombs of MD and a number of key bumps of K over the night, and that night changed me completely, and all for the better, so there's always a place in my heart(/stash) for a little bit of K. There's a lot of good in that little molecule (lot of potential for bad too admittedly).
Sigh, i don't like doing this because i agree wholeheartedly with your message, but... well, MDMA is actually neurotoxic, it's safer than most stimulants but it's still a drug to be wary of, there are much safer drugs out there than MDMA. Spreading the message of education is all well and good, but we've got to make sure we've educated ourselves...Palmerama said:
So you're referring to the 2010 Nutt study, I see.Melopahn said:http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Addictive_PropertiesQuaxar said:
Alcohol is the most intoxicating, and cigarettes clearly kill the most... if you haven't figured that out then your ignorance in regard of various illegal substances is hilarious.
http://science.iowamedicalmarijuana.org/pdfs/safety/Nutt%20Rational%20Scale%20Drug%20Harms%20Lancet%202007.pdf
http://www.americanscientist.org/libraries/documents/200645104835_307.pdf
This info tells us that Heroin is the most likely to kill you as far as a substance go (they take into account street vendors failing to keep the product pure, and they state that if it was legal it would be moved down the list. They also show how Nutmeg and Datura are the 2nd and third deadliest while neither of them are illegal. Further they state that Marijuana and LSD have never been responsible for a death by substance?
Seriously though I can't tell if you were trolling or have just never looked up any science behind all things drug. I have a ton more sources as well.
<spoiler=Short summary for those interested>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg/600px-HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg.png
Might I direct your gaze to a part of your very own second link:
Tobacco and alcohol were included because their
extensive use has provided reliable data on their risks and
harms, providing familiar benchmarks against which the
absolute harms of other drugs can be judged. However,
direct comparison of the scores for tobacco and alcohol
with those of the other drugs is not possible since the fact
that they are legal could affect their harms in various
ways, especially through easier availability.
Saying alcohol is more harmful than hard drugs is equal to saying cars are more dangerous than a F/A-18 Hornet. Of course, a driving license can be obtained by almost everyone with ease whereas there's far less people piloting a fighter jet plus they've got more experience in it than random drivers.
Heroin addicts know what they're doing most of the time, they do it in groups so as to watch each other, a lot carry naloxone to cancel out side-effects just in case and mostly you don't start with jamming needles in your veins. On the other hand every stupid little teenager can get his hands on a few bottles of booze because it's legal and culturally accepted and even if they get caught red-handed the worst they can expect is the cops confiscating the alcohol and maybe telling the parents. And of course there's not really anything of a "coke snorting game" or "binge snorting" or so.
And in any way I'd imagine the fact that the worst drugs are already legal should rather be a thought away from legalizing yet more addictive substances .
Oh come on, you know there's often a very fine line (hurr hurr) between "I'm having fun" and "oh god my brain is melting".RazadaMk2 said:
Well, yes. That's interesting, that never happened to her as far as I'm aware but then given the general state she was in at the time she might just not have noticed, though given she was injecting it I don't see how it could fail to produce bruising, that said the tissue around regular injection sites does stop bruising...so I guess I can see how it could fail to produce bruising. By the time I met her she'd been given a dex script and her hair had grown back, so at least that wasn't permanent.Res Plus said:
Just to point out, the vast majority of OD's come with using alcohol on top or after a detox and people just don't realise how far your tolerance can drop, you're virtually starting from scratch.Quaxar said:
You probably understand this, but tobacco and alcohol have many factors that mitigate the harm caused due to their legal status, nothing to do with the drugs themselves, whereas the illegal ones have far fewer.
edit: fixed quotes
Also, having had a look at those rankings in the graph...look at the opiates. Heroin being mostly illegal (not for me! Yay!) and uncontrolled is the most dangerous. Then you have methadone which typically comes in a regulated dose of liquid or pills, neither of which can be injected (you can get IV methadone but it's quite rare and on a weight for weight dose is about the same strength as heroin. Then take buprenorphine, usually comes in a tablet which is a real pig to try and inject, it's about 40 times stronger than oral morphine or about 10 times stronger than IV diamprphine gram for gram.
Why do you think heroin is ranked as so harmful whereas buprenorphine isn't? Yes, usage does affect this, personally I can't believe they didn't weight it by at least an estimate of usage, quite frankly trying to estimate the harm done by usage of a certain drug without accounting for how widespread it's usage strikes me as...hmm...lets say not as useful as it could have been.
Well, my point was more that telling people:RazadaMk2 said:
Without mentioning that the difference between:RazadaMk2 said:
and:
can be a small line is a little naughty.
Yes, heavy drug use will do that. Luckily for me, despite having lost (in many different senses) friends and girlfriends I've never turned into a complete dick and my family has always been very much willing to let me handle my own shit rather than pushing me away, which counts for a lot. Despite the fact that I have a diamorphine script I am very stable myself (in no small part due to the diamorphine script) and it often surprises drug workers that I have a fully intact family that I get on well with, the vast majority come from homes that are at least "troubled".
Also...being tied up by a large black man shouting "this is democracy"...that's some kinky shit dude
