slopeslider said:
Archemetis said:
Lines on paper is a fine argument, someone shouldn't be able to gain a prison sentence and a hefty fine for lines on paper...
But when those lines on paper come together to form the image of a child/animal being sexually abused then surely that's a different matter all together?
Granted you can't argue that because he had drawings of such things that it means he must also engage or have the potential to engage in such acts...
But simply the idea that he was interested in seeing such acts, even illustrated should raise enough questions, right?
I mean I'm sure there are people out there (in vast quantities) that enjoy the sight of a pair of hand-animated titties flopping around...
And if they want to satisfy that part of their tastes fair play to them...
But child pornography and Bestiality is wrong no matter how it's portrayed and people who actively seek it out are fairly disgusting...
So yeah, I'd feel sorry for the guy if the case was he was found in possession of illustrated pornography, because that would be over-reacting...
But he went for child pornography and his only excuse was,
"I thought it was only illegal if I downloaded it..."
Riiiiight...
Dont forget people think the games we play are evil and disgusting and would ban them if they had the power. Kinda like australia's doing. Mass effect has interspecies sex, which is considered bestiality, no? I guess you think that game shouldn't exist and anyone who liked that part is fairly disgusting.
I once blew up megaton in fallout 3. I MUST have some hidden desires for mass murder of innocent children and people, right? I should be subject to mental evaluation.
Last time I checked, gruesomely murdering little children is worse than raping them.
There was a time when it was considered 'morally wrong' for me to marry a white woman. So I don't believe generally held moral values by the people in power subject to change = Law.
Why are so many people calling to question the simple concept that I don't like child abuse/rape or bestiality as an act, idea or illustration?
In the vain hopes that others will read this comment and hopefully take notice.
I acknowledge that there are forms of entertainment that contain sexual controversies such as rape (child or otherwise) bestiality (Or rather Sci-fi-themed interspecies relationships) and I further acknowledge that they're often used as points to drive a story or create a character's background...
The point a fair few people are missing here is, these things you're thrusting at me as "Examples of things I
must clearly disagree with" are
not pornography.
What the guy was arrested for,
was pornography...
If it was an "Erotic romance Manga" or even "Dramatic manga with controversial sexual content." it would've been described as such.
It is described as "hentai" which last I checked meant something along the lines of "Sexually Perverted" (at least the translation search I did said that, it also came up with Metamorphosis and abnormality).
Also, I said That you
can't assume that because he has them that he's automatically a child rapist and a dog-buggerer... It's right there in my first post, see? listed under.
"Granted you can't argue that because he had drawings of such things that it means he must also engage or have the potential to engage in such acts..."
All I said was, it's disgusting that people would seek out such material and that the fact he wanted to see it should be called to question...
I didn't say that people who played mass effect and fucked the blue chick (Like I did) should be ashamed of themselves because that's
technically bestiality. (Although if it's woman-shaped and bares sentience, can you really argue that?)
I also stated that I didn't believe his excuse and it's a genuine thing to disagree with.
He acknowledged that the illustrated acts he was viewing were illegal in his native country and sought them out in a way that he thought "Wouldn't be illegal".
That just sounds sketchy to me, forgive me if I'm the only one to think it.
I agree with a lot of people that his sentence would have been far too severe considering he had no other materials or evidence to suggest that he was a full-time pervert or even an
intentional one.
All I said that his initial interest in the material should have been questioned and possibly watched.
None of this other bollocks he's having to go through.
So now that I've fairly pointlessly explained myself for the third time can we all drop it now?
Edit:
My Girlfriend also saw your comment about murder being worse than rape when it comes to children.
And while we both agree that murdering children is a despicable act punishable only by forceful murder of the one responsible, you seem to talking from a clearly ignorant point of view...
Murder, is bad, yes, gruesome murder and mutilation is fucking horrendous, but rape...
If you see the end of it, you have to fucking LIVE with that shit...
The mental scarring and the constant fear, the feeling of being utterly powerless, And so many other things I couldn't begin to understand and honestly wouldn't want to...
Is that really not as bad in your eyes?
I'd wager to say it's equal if not worse, to be honest, especially for a child who couldn't begin to understand the situation fully.
and i dont even collect them
