I live in Iowa, and depending on what county he was from(I didn't see this on the news) It is a possibility. We've got some pretty crazy judicials in a few of our counties, but the majority of them do not act in this way. We do seem to have plenty of cp cases though, and they might have been freaking out because of that. In the last decade Iowa law has gone a crusade to eliminate this form of cry, and it seems like he just happened to live in the wrong county.
Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material
- Thread starter Andy Chalk
- Start date
I'm just going to chalk this up to America being America. The place where violent deaths are portrayed at least 15 times a day between the broadcast networks and no one bats an eye, yet you get riots in the streets over one 45 year old pierced boob.
only if the stick figure was smaller coloured pink and had bows on its head.Irridium said:
i agree this is is silly i mean a bloody drawing, they dont arrest all the countless people who view and buy rape related hentai.
I think america is just a little bit too obsessed with this crusade they seem to have against peadophiles which are in reality very rare individuals and ones who actually commit acts are even rarer.
I am against this. Yes, by the sounds of the artical written, the guy was dumb. But I've read manga... A LOT! I've seen the most childlike characters sold as 16 or 18 years old, just cause that's how the artist draws. Was there something in the manga that pegged the "Children" as under age?
Most of all, it's not like this guy was marketing child porn. He had some manga that may or may not have contained underage hentai. The books could have been confiscated, end of story. The threat of jail could have instilled just enough fear in a maybe-wouldbe-offender. But 6 months and psych evals after release?? Over KILL.
Most of all, it's not like this guy was marketing child porn. He had some manga that may or may not have contained underage hentai. The books could have been confiscated, end of story. The threat of jail could have instilled just enough fear in a maybe-wouldbe-offender. But 6 months and psych evals after release?? Over KILL.
This is getting pretty off topic, but I just don't think it's up to the government to tell ME when I'm ready to have sex and with whom and how I have it. Certainly the laws are in place to protect children who could be easily manipulated, but 18 is kind of far beyond what I call an easy manipulable child. Though other countries have it lower (15 in Sweden, 16 now in Canada with like 400000 additional exceptions to the rule, etc).cobra_ky said:
Haha.
Dumb-ass shouldn't have imported pedo comics.
Also, looking through the comments in this topic,
Stop defending him!
I'm all for freedom of speech, information, ect, ect, But seriously?
This guy imported CHILD PORN! He went out of his way to import pictures of CHILDREN HAVING SEX!
Dumb-ass shouldn't have imported pedo comics.
Also, looking through the comments in this topic,
Stop defending him!
I'm all for freedom of speech, information, ect, ect, But seriously?
This guy imported CHILD PORN! He went out of his way to import pictures of CHILDREN HAVING SEX!
Triffid said:
Did you even read the first post in this thread? Christopher Handley was caught because someone from the Postal Service went through his mail. He wasn't handing this stuff out, he wasn't sharing it over the web. The cops only seized seven manga volumes and then searched his personal collection of over 1,200 volumes, retaining of that search, only 80 volumes, for reasons unknown.
As for your pissing comment, was the other person willing? Did you tie them up and force this? There are people that have strange fetishes. Besides a drawing is not a real person, no one was harmed in the making of a comic. I could buy a manga that is focused on a character running around killing people, that doesn't mean I'm gonna go kill people. Just because someone is looking to expand their collection with new books, that happen to involve sex with a minor, doesn't mean their going to run out and bugger a kid.
For that to happen someone would have to fully understand the mind-blowing depths of insanity that exists in Japan.Ph0t0n1c Ph34r said:
And I don't think that anyone is going to volunteer for that.
In my opinion, it depends entirely on what is deemed as 'child pornography'. If it is obviously an image of a young child then I think it is something to be concerned about and he may need some psychological evaluation....possibly not a sentence but definitely a chat with a psychiatrist. However, in my experience of Hentai, it is impossible not to find a character in a schoolgirls outfit or something that depicts a similar symbol of innocence and if this is the case I think there's nothing to worry about. The sentence however, I do think is a step too far. xx
I don't know how to react really. It's fair enough if it is against the law to possess the magazine, but it seems increadably hardline, and needlessly strict
Interestingly enough, one of the ways they were going to deem something to be 'virtual child pornography' was by looking at the size of a character's breasts. [/sigh] So is having Rukia hentai illegal just because she's a total A-cup?
I would be very careful with this line of reasoning. Recently, I know three girls were in trouble in their school because of "sexting" They sent some nude photos to their bfs. It didn't end well [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/01/kids/]. Just because it works for a group, I don't think it may work for everyone.AC10 said:
Maybe he should have moved to Australia. That would have put him into even MORE hot water since that is EXACTLY what's happening there right now.Sheo_Dagana said:
The punishment seems tougher then I would have expected. It seems to be in line with manslaughter.
Drawings. Unless I misread, he went somewhere and got drawings.uncle-ellis said:
Drawings != Pictures.
Pictures involve real people in real situations at some point. Drawings involve fantasy figures in fantasy situations that never actually occured.
So either you'll need to accept that drawings of murder is the same as murder.
Or stop being biased.
Gets a little old with everyone treating violence as a lighter issue than sexuality.
"Comics/Anime about children being dissected alive? Shit that's fine dude. But pedophilia...OH SWEET GOD NO!"
Then they'd have to fully understand how it pales in comparison to the bible belt in the US.uncle-ellis said:
While I question how the man spends his spare capital, I'm quite certain I don't think he should be placed in jail. Yes, the books may have contained material about children but is the theoritical abuse of children really a concern? Child pornography is illegal quite simply because your average reasonable person sees it as sexual abuse against a minor, and in this case I see no abuse. Moreover, if he was not actually displaying his collection to others he couldn't even reasonably be accused of a a crime in that regard either.
No children were harmed, no distinct law was broken, he did not inflict his tastes upon the community. I see no reason for such a sentence.
No children were harmed, no distinct law was broken, he did not inflict his tastes upon the community. I see no reason for such a sentence.
Why wouldn't I defend him? He is being sent to PRISON when I see no evidence of a CRIME.uncle-ellis said:
If you can explain, clearly for my sake, precisely what he did is a crime and WHY I'd be thankful. As I already pointed out, child pornography is generally illegal because it is considered harmful to the children depicted therein. Obscenity is only a crime if the population at large is asked to endure it. He kept his collection private and the sex acts were being depicted by hand drawn characters. Unless we are suddenly going to protect the rights of non-existant beings and protest punish a theoritical future breach of the law there I see no grounds for this conviction.
Don't forget that there is generally no way to pinpoint the age of characters in drawings.Eclectic Dreck said:
Most anime protests that its characters are all over 18
.Technically if the gal on the first page of this thread is pedo then I know at least one Japanese Foreign Exchange student that was at my highschool that was pedo bait at 18 years of age
(She looks unusually young for her age even now).