Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material
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That reminds me of a quite from Easy Rider (1969)shadow skill said:
George Hanson: They're not scared of you. They're scared of what you represent to 'em.
Billy: Hey, man. All we represent to them, man, is somebody who needs a haircut.
George Hanson: Oh, no. What you represent to them is freedom.
Billy: What the hell is wrong with freedom? That's what it's all about.
George Hanson: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what's it's all about, all right. But talkin' about it and bein' it, that's two different things. I mean, it's real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. Of course, don't ever tell anybody that they're not free, 'cause then they're gonna get real busy killin' and maimin' to prove to you that they are. Oh, yeah, they're gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom. But they see a free individual, it's gonna scare 'em.
Billy: Well, it don't make 'em runnin' scared.
George Hanson: No, it makes 'em dangerous.
Let's not forget that we have only had photography for about two hundred years or so. But that would require common sense which of course ain't so common.Amnestic said:
Why would any fiction require someone's forgiveness?Scrumpmonkey said:
I'm sorry that you had to see something that made you feel ill. Still it doesn't give you the right to adjudge the artists and fans of niche erotic manga. If we adjudge extreme H manga's creators and readers, we may do the same with the readers of Marquis de Sade's works like "The 120 Days of Sodom".
Before calling my analogy dumb - did you even try reading "The 120 Days of Sodom"? It's easy to find online. Considering that some people are aroused even by guro, it's quite possible that someone would read "The 120 Days of Sodom" at least partially due to its erotic aspects.Scrumpmonkey said:
What exactly is so dangerous about extreme erotic fiction?
In Japan many more people consume loli manga/games, rape manga/anime/games, etc.
Afaik no one tries to monitor people who buy this stuff either.
If this stuff had at least a small overall negative effect on the readers, don't you think that Japan would have drown in sexual violence and child abuse by now?
Your "serious looking" would just waste public resources that should be used to actually improve people's life.
Gotta say partly disapointed in the fact he was right out arrested instead of warned i mean come on no prior criminal history and yeah why is it illegal? i get the child porn thing but no children are hurt or abused by this particular form in fact just the opposite it could be used as a legal deterent for people who would otherwise be into that sort of thing, i mean im not into that stuff but yeah i do like hentai but just straight forward stuff none of the wierd shit (though yes i am now shuffling through my collection to be sure) and i mean meh that is really quite a hard core punishment for what the crime was really.
Someone in an earlier post made the point that he had a collection of 1200 manga volumes. I think it more likely that he was simply a collector (a foreign art collector) who was arrested because several items in his collection were objectionable to the American authorities.anthony87 said:
He finally loves Big Brother, I guess.GamesB2 said:
So yeah, lolicon and some furry yiffing have ruined a man's life, just li
It may be late to say this but does anyone else smell a rat here?
I mean virtual child porn was deemed to be legally acceptable because there were no actual minors involved. But here there weren't even any actual people involved and yet a man still gets legally penalized for it in such a way?
Does the prosecution in this case actually have any real LEGAL leg to stand on? In this same vein I'm finding it to be a rather curious that as far as I know no one has been making any serious pushes for a law that explicitly bans hentai or lolicon.
It seems that this man is being punished not because of any explicit lawlessness, but because someone wanted to express their disapproval of what he had in his possession. What he had in his possession may not be alright from an ethical or moral standpoint. In fact I think it's safe to say that it probably isn't. But this is supposed to be a matter of LEGALITY.
What I'd like to see is someone receiving the same kind of treatment as this man but actually having the guts to take it all the way to the supreme court using the previous ruling upholding virtual child porn as a weapon.
I guess what I'm tying to say is that this case seems to have "ABUSE OF POWER" written all over it.
I mean virtual child porn was deemed to be legally acceptable because there were no actual minors involved. But here there weren't even any actual people involved and yet a man still gets legally penalized for it in such a way?
Does the prosecution in this case actually have any real LEGAL leg to stand on? In this same vein I'm finding it to be a rather curious that as far as I know no one has been making any serious pushes for a law that explicitly bans hentai or lolicon.
It seems that this man is being punished not because of any explicit lawlessness, but because someone wanted to express their disapproval of what he had in his possession. What he had in his possession may not be alright from an ethical or moral standpoint. In fact I think it's safe to say that it probably isn't. But this is supposed to be a matter of LEGALITY.
What I'd like to see is someone receiving the same kind of treatment as this man but actually having the guts to take it all the way to the supreme court using the previous ruling upholding virtual child porn as a weapon.
I guess what I'm tying to say is that this case seems to have "ABUSE OF POWER" written all over it.
Yikes. I gotta be more catious on what I look at...
I don't support this kind of thing, but I don't agree with what's going on here either.
I don't support this kind of thing, but I don't agree with what's going on here either.
regardless of what you think of the material absolutely nothing about this is constitutional in the least. The post office searching his mail was an invasion of his privacy. The fact that he was arrested for it is a violation of the (I believe it is the fourth) amendment of the constitution that states a man is free to look at whatever art he chooses so long as nobody is harmed in viewing or creating that art.
Part of me wishes he had taken this to the supreme court, but another part of me understands why he didn't. He would have been jailed anyway, this is America. Whether or not you're guilty doesn't matter, the man was labeled a pervert which means any american jury would have found him guilty in a heartbeat without even paying attention to the details of the case.
Part of me wishes he had taken this to the supreme court, but another part of me understands why he didn't. He would have been jailed anyway, this is America. Whether or not you're guilty doesn't matter, the man was labeled a pervert which means any american jury would have found him guilty in a heartbeat without even paying attention to the details of the case.
Even if he is a pedophile he doesn't go after real girls he only looks at fake girls. Maybe this was his way to keep his disires in check.
After this he is won't order any comics more he will just go for the real deal.
Scary to think that the just created a "real" phedophile.
But from the story he looks just like a guy who likes to collect strange things.
After this he is won't order any comics more he will just go for the real deal.
Scary to think that the just created a "real" phedophile.
But from the story he looks just like a guy who likes to collect strange things.
