Hentai Collector Sentenced to Jail Over "Obscene" Material
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Ok, so i get put in probation for my "against pedophelia views" be it cartoon or real life, Very interesting zero punctuation!Amnestic said:
also amnestic, i find it worrying that you think people that do get a jolly off of underage children shouldnt be put in jail! (be it cartoon or real life)
Damn i wish i could talk to some people in real life, so they didnt hide behind there keyboards ( yeah i do realise that the same thing can be said towards me )
Prosecuting Thought Crimes is a horrific breach of human rights and basic civilised conduct. The moment people start jailing people for Thought Crimes is the moment I no longer wish to be a part of that nation. I don't think paedophiles should be put in jail for just being paedophiles. I do think they should be put in jail for funding/creating child porn (that is, actual child porn with actual victims) or sexually assaulting children - you know, things which are actually crimes.dallan262 said:
Frankly, if a paedophile can satisfy his urges using loli/shotacon, I'd be all for it. The more they fap to cartoons which have no victims whatsoever, the less they're fapping to real children who are actually being assaulted.
And this is all under the assumption that he was a paedophile. As I've stated, his lack of actual child porn leads me to believe that may not be the case.
In short, people can 'get their jollies off' to whatever they like as long as A) they don't bother me with it and B) whatever they're fapping to has consenting adults when actual creatures are involved.
Interesting point. I think the majority of Americans would agree that this sentence is ridiculous. It definitely seems like someone had something in for this guy personally. Makes you wonder: why exactly were they checking his mail? I mean, it's one thing to look to make sure that it's not a bomb or something, but someone had to read through the mangas he was ordering to confirm the illegality of what he was buying. This sounds like someone high up had something personal against this guy... and it may be unrelated to what he was arrested for.A1 said:
Suppose you want to take someone down, and find out somehow they're doing something socially unacceptable and barely on the edge of legal? Suppose you had the power to drag them into court over this and intimidate them? Even if they're innocent, their life is ruined simply by pulling this out into the open. I think there's more to this story than we're seeing here.
i dont know about you but, i would be enitrely against the police if they had a suspected pedophile in my neighbourhood and didnt do anything about it because " the pictures wernt real and were just drawings" wouldnt you..Amnestic said:
police: im sorry mr. tim fiddled little malkys middle...
Mum/Dad: what about all those (sticky) drawings of little children that he has all over his wall???
police: just drawings chillax dudes, JEEEEEZE!
you have to atleast see where im coming from, the guy clearly had some fucked up hentai that the police thought would have bad consequences to the community and most of all them
i think if its not a jail he should be locked up away from the general public
( side note: im trying to have a more reasonable debate, i realise my first comment was a bit aggresive )
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SUPA FRANKY said:
What really bugs me is the length of the sentence. 15 years. Actual rapists often don't get that long. That is not even remotely justice. Which is worse- to rape someone, or to look at perverted stuff on a piece of paper? The answer is obvious.
Well put.Jandau said:
dallan262 said:
I was not surprised at all to see you were from Britain. You favor locking away people who *might* be dangerous? Taking away people's guns I could almost understand. Putting up cameras everywhere went way too far. Are there any rights your government isn't willing to violate in your quest for safety?
The above poster said: "more they fap to cartoons which have no victims whatsoever, the less they're fapping to real children who are actually being assaulted"
This is actually true. The number of sex crimes in Japan sharply declined after the government loosened up it's policies on porn. Respect for individual freedom and less restriction resulted in less crime, not more.
Wow, not only do they rifle through his mail but they are willing to show mature images to the jury to get him convicted.Andy Chalk said:
Plus, what is with that huge jail sentence and fine if he fights it? 15 years? He might aswell get the most of the conviction and punch the judge.
I think it's sad that, as far as I know/can see, these pieces of paper have more protection than emotionally abused children. I know of no law where a child who grew up in an emotionally abusing family can press charges for having their life screwed up.
By the way, I read in Time magazine a few years back that the US is only about 49% free in the political sense. Denmark, on the other hand, is supposedly. Or maybe it was Estonia. I can't remember. All I do remember is that we're not as free as we may think we are.
Land of the Free my behind.
By the way, I read in Time magazine a few years back that the US is only about 49% free in the political sense. Denmark, on the other hand, is supposedly. Or maybe it was Estonia. I can't remember. All I do remember is that we're not as free as we may think we are.
Land of the Free my behind.
ok a couple of questions, why would anyone need a gun?RelexCryo said:
the cameras you speak of are a good thing thanks to them the guy who assaulted me got fined and put in prison because we had 100% it was him and of what he did exactly!
on your last statement i had to laugh loosening up policies on porn = less crime, no shit sherlock if the police relaxed its policies on rape then there would be less crime related to rape too hahaha jeeesus i think you need to rethink your statement there.
plus draings of sex with children is suggesting to someone that have sex with children is ok which is not making them more likely to carry out the crime on real children, like i said before prob not jail but he definately needs to be locked up in a mental institute as what hes doing is wrong and shouldnt be thought of in any other way!
A) you answered your own question on guns directly underneath your first question. At the time handguns were banned in Britain- 1997- Sports cars killed far, far more people. Handguns at least occasionally prevented a crime. Sports cars did nothing useful, at all. The job of transportation was done well enough by perfectly normal cars. Those ultra-high speed models resulted in thousands of unnecesasary deaths every year. I suppose you could argue that the British economy depended on sports car manufacture, but is this really about money? Sports cars never prevent a rape or save a life. And they have killed far, far more people. It's true that guns are specficially designed to kill and cars aren't, but do you honestly think that human life matters less than the intent of the design? Does what the object is designed to do matter more than how many people are killed? Nobody *needs* a sports car. By design, they travel unnecessary speeds, and by going too fast, they get innocent people killed.dallan262 said:
B) Porn and actual rape are not equal. After Japan loosened up it's policies on porn there was less sexual crime, including rape.
C) Locking up people because what they are doing MIGHT be dangerous is not right. Moreover, it rests on the assumption that the government is benevolent. And while it is certainly not impossible for the government to be benevolent, it is mathematically inevitable for the government to become corrupt over the centuries, which is why there are certain checks to the government's power.
Every day I read another article about the Justice system abusing it's power or people abusing it, all of them in the US. God am I glad to be an American, the land where people sue what they don't like and the government will shit all over you if you aren't "special" in some way.
This is yet another example of how logic is preceded by blind emotional outrage.
You could replace "hentai" with "communism" and you'd have a case from the 50's. This is nothing new, and it needs to stop.
This is yet another example of how logic is preceded by blind emotional outrage.
You could replace "hentai" with "communism" and you'd have a case from the 50's. This is nothing new, and it needs to stop.
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I don't support Lollicon or Furry Hentai, I generaly don't support it though, I mean if I want to look at porn I'll look at real porn, and yeah it's sort of pedophilia, but if no children or animals were harmed in the process of making the hentai then I don't see the bloody problem. Now had he read that manga then gone out and raped a child or an animal, yeah then I'd see a bloody problem.