Hey 4chan? Can we talk briefly?

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(BIG FREAKING NOTE: please try not to be offended. At this point I'm using humour to cling to sanity. And really, I think 4chan can afford to laugh at itself)

Me: Hey 4chan, how you doing? How's Gamergate these days?

(at this point, please imagine this: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/034/4/1/hydra__dipsy_demo__by_sandara-d74271p.jpg
standing in for 4chan)

4chan: WE ARE LEGION/NAKED PICTURES OF EMMA WATSON/OH NO NOT THIS AGAIN/GAMES JOURNALISM/FAGFAGFAG

Me: Yeah. . .about that. So, I saw an article on the business insider this morning, and well, I don't think it paints you in a very good light. Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches. Now I understand that not all the heads speak for each other, in-fact that as a community there is a wide range of both good and bad people (like most communities) but do you think you could deal with that head that keeps being such a sexist asshole all the time? I'll just post the link down here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/4chan-hackers-threatening-to-post-naked-photographs-of-emma-watson-2014-9

4chan: KILL ONE HEAD AND TWO APPEAR/SHE'S A SLUT AND SHE DESERVES IT/BUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH/THATS NOT WHAT GAMERGATE IS ABOUT/WE ARE NOT A HIVEMIND!

Me: Right, I know you're not a hivemind, no community is. . .now, the problem you have is that every-time something like this happens recently, it originates from one of the boards, either /b/ or /v/. It just seems that maybe its time for the moderators to take it in hand and do something about it. I know the anarchic nature of the community is one of the main draws for its members, but as long as you don't police the boards the worst, loudest voices in that community will continue to paint the rest of you in a bad light. Publicly attacking figures like this is only proving their point, and turning people against you. Are you aware of a quote commonly mis-attributed to from Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., but actually originating from Zechariah Chafee?

4chan: WE ARE THE SPAWN OF DARKNESS/SCREW THAT FEMINAZI/WE DON'T CONTROL THOSE GUYS/HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT SILVERSTRING ARE DOING/NO I AM NOT

Me: It goes "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Its a good rule to live by in my opinion. It plays into Free Speech as well. You have the right to talk, everyone does. You just don't have the right to be heard. People are free to judge you on your actions and words, and that means if you say something bone deep stupid or sexist, they are free to ignore, condemn, critique or ridicule. Just like Anita Sarkessian is free to critique video games. You are in turn, free to criticism her, but don't be surprised if after insulting, harassing and threatening her, she defends herself by shutting down comments. Thats a pretty reasonable response. Being civil, stopping your fist short of the other persons nose, means people are more likely to listen to you.

4chan: WE ARE THE VOICES OF CONTAGION/STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT/GODDAMNIT SHUT UP YOU ARE NOT HELPING/LOOK AT THESE CONNECTIONS IN MEDIA/THATS A GOOD POINT

Me: Similarly, attacking a public figure with threats of spreading pictures of her online is just going make people condemn the whole damn community. Maybe its time to stop ragging on the moderators over at 4chan and let them do the best job they can at cutting of the arsehole heads. Maybe they'll grow back, maybe in the meantime 4chan won't be a good place to discuss Gamergate, but I think for the good of the forum as a whole, and all the good parts of it, those voices need to be cleaned out.

4chan: WE ARE LORDS OF TYPHON/STFU FEMINAZI ARGH SWORD AND ACID/OH THANK GOD HE GOT CUT OFF/COLLUSION BETWEEN MODERATORS AND PRESS/THANKS FOR BEING REASONABLE.

Me: No problem. I'm going to go cruise /tg/. Stay classy you many headed beast of ruin!

4chan: WE ARE LEGION/...ARGH REGROWING HURTS LIKE YOUR MOM/DAMN HE'S BACK AGAIN/THE MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT ZOE QUINN/SEE YOU AROUND!

(Note: again, not overly serious. . .but come on guys, you have to understand why you have such an awful reputation around the internet, and people struggle to take you seriously, even when you have good points, when 4chan self identifies as the anarchic Mos Eisely of the internet.)

captcha: in over my head. . . .ho boy. . .
 

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4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
 

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dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
Everyone's talking about jumping ship to 8chan.co

It's a lot like the first schism where a bunch of people fled to 7chan, except they're not pedos defending their right to post illegal jailbait and loli images this time.

By everyone I mean the guys who frequent /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Most of the other boards are pretty much unaffected.
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
Everyone's talking about jumping ship to 8chan.co

It's a lot like the first schism where a bunch of people fled to 7chan, except they're not pedos defending their right to post illegal jailbait and loli images this time.

By everyone I mean the guys who frequent /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Most of the other boards are pretty much unaffected.
Lot's of people from /k/, /a/ and /sp/ also jumped ship if the relevant 8chan boards are any indication.

Also Hotwheels announced a collaboration of 8chan with 2chan
 

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People are getting tired of this I guess, but I'm not. I'm still mad as hell. Gamers want to other gamers to drop it so we can go back to just doing video game stuff. But just knowing there's other people who want us to just go back to being revenue generating sheep, lining the pockets of people who want to tell us how awful and misogynistic we are pisses me off. It's not going to get dropped. You want to see Social Justice? I was getting shot at with rubber bullets and tear gassed in the late 90s at WTO protests; I think I can be pissed off on the internet when people who hate me want to make money off of me. It's the least I can do.

It seems like gamers are on strike and rightly so. Now we just need some cadences/street chants.

WHOSE GAMES? OUR GAMES!

NO ETHICS! NO PEACE!

It works better when you're yelling yourself hoarse shoulder to shoulder on a city street surrounded by riot cops than on a message board. But yeah, that's about how pissed off I am.
 

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I thought 4chan was alright in my book after vivian james. I liked the concept, i liked the idea. So i thought, lets go to /v/, it seems like a cool place after all and hey i dont mind the usage of "fag" all the time, i aint THAT sensitive despite being a tumblr goer.

first thread "Theres an interesting/attractive lesbian in this game i cant fuck, stupid SJW's ruin everything".

With comments like "Bioware aim for the tumblr market, thats why they add interesting women you cant fuck, only feminists want there to be lesbians or interesting women, and being unfuckable is stupid feminist bullshit".

The upshot was "We dont want any lesbians, and if we do we dont want them to be interesting or attractive because thats SJW bullshit".

Unless the entire thread was total and awesome satire then its obviously a place for every stereotype for MRA's ever by the looks of it. I read through like 100 short comments ALL of them to this effect. All.

Instantly decided i was totally wrong nor will i take any SJW arguments from /v/ members seriously. If writing/wanting/liking an interesting lesbian character makes one a social justice warrior then the terms a joke and i claim victory in every debate regarding it ever by default. I'm still appreciative/supportive of vivian james but jegus. Terrible/stupid people can make some good art/ideas i suppose.

OT: In light of that, colour me unsurprised.
 

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Don't fall into the trap of thinking any forum is a monolith. 4chan is just a collection of anonymous people. There's no central guiding ideology. Without usernames, there's no guarantee that a single person from that thread contributed to TFYC, you could be dealing with two completely different groups of people. Also, people tend to flock to threads that they agree with. An openly sexist thread is likely to attract sexists.

Which is not to say that there isn't a great deal of unsavoury people on the board or that you ought to like it. I only warn against thinking they tar the work/opinions of supporters/creators of other people just because they shared a space. No-one really represents the site, and there was a large contingent of vocal critics there against funding TFYC and creating VJ on 4chan itself (still is).
 

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Wait, people still think that 4chan is a HIVE MIND? What are you smoking? It is simply a place where people come to to have conversation anonymously. I know that's putting it lightly, but to think it is some kind of INTERNET BOOGEYMAN, somehow powered by people in this hive mind is insane.

Oh, and do you know 4chan is actually one of the most equal place on this earth? Think about that for a second.
 

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My first thought was "People were harassing Emma Watson? For one, she was queen of the internet long before Jennifer Lawrence turned up, and for another, her speech about feminism is one of the only things to recently emerge from social justice that have actually been sane and a genuine force for good"

Then I remembered this is the internet, and then I stopped being surprised at all.
 

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Huxley said:
Don't fall into the trap of thinking any forum is a monolith.
Which is why it's always so amusing when posters here whinge about how left-leaning, feminist and SJW the other posters are. The Escapist is overwhelmingly left-wing progressive, for reals. Just ignore all those posts about the evils of feminism and how Zoe Quinn is the antichrist (but it totally isn't about her anymore) or accusing other posters of White Knighting. Total SJW grouphug!

OT: Amusing, but...meh. Fuckwits gonna fuckwit, and the decent people are going to get shouted down by the noisy dipshits. Rather than improving the rep of places like 4chan, better to jump ship and let the morons turn it into an echo chamber for their fuckwittery. Mud sticks. Build something new rather than trying to repair the irreperably broken.
 

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Mr.Doh said:
Wait, people still think that 4chan is a HIVE MIND? What are you smoking? It is simply a place where people come to to have conversation anonymously. I know that's putting it lightly, but to think it is some kind of INTERNET BOOGEYMAN, somehow powered by people in this hive mind is insane.

Oh, and do you know 4chan is actually one of the most equal place on this earth? Think about that for a second.
I don't think anyone on this thread has so far claimed 4chan is a hivemind. Infact, I thought I made it clear (with the schizophrenic Hydra analogy) that I don't think 4chan is a hivemind. Its one creature with many voices and personalities competing for attention.

And I really doubt 4chan feels very equal to some people, considering what its members come up with some days. Like coming up with fake news stories about the death of feminist celebrities, or threatening to leak naked pictures of female role models.

My point is that as long as 4chan doesn't control its idiot misogynists, people will keep treating it as the Internet bogeyman, whether it deserves that treatment or not. I'm not surprised the mods have finally dropped the hammer, even though they may have dropped it on the wrong people.
 

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Leave it. 4chan is the way it is. It's not a collective with a goal. Think of it as the sewage piping of the internet, where all the silt that isn't particularly welcome elsewhere usually ends up. Of course, sometimes people flush down diamond rings down there.

It, as a whole, don't need good PR or an approachable image. It's not going to run for prime minister. People will, and does, treat it as some sort of dreadful cancer of the internet, but I imagine the /b/-bers rather like that image.

I hesitate to call 4chan the internet's metaphorical toilet, but I just did, so there. I don't mean that as an entirely negative comparison, either.

(Not to mention, 4chan is more than /b/. The entire site isn't centered around trying to fit "******" into as many sentences as possible. There are many different subforums with their own customs and expectations and so on. But then again, No True Scotsman, We Have to Draw the Line Somewhere, arf arf arf)
 

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Dakkagor said:
Mr.Doh said:
Wait, people still think that 4chan is a HIVE MIND? What are you smoking? It is simply a place where people come to to have conversation anonymously. I know that's putting it lightly, but to think it is some kind of INTERNET BOOGEYMAN, somehow powered by people in this hive mind is insane.

Oh, and do you know 4chan is actually one of the most equal place on this earth? Think about that for a second.
I don't think anyone on this thread has so far claimed 4chan is a hivemind. Infact, I thought I made it clear (with the schizophrenic Hydra analogy) that I don't think 4chan is a hivemind. Its one creature with many voices and personalities competing for attention.

And I really doubt 4chan feels very equal to some people, considering what its members come up with some days. Like coming up with fake news stories about the death of feminist celebrities, or threatening to leak naked pictures of female role models.

My point is that as long as 4chan doesn't control its idiot misogynists, people will keep treating it as the Internet bogeyman, whether it deserves that treatment or not. I'm not surprised the mods have finally dropped the hammer, even though they may have dropped it on the wrong people.
4chan equal in a sense that everyone is behind the veil of anonymity. People are judging by the content of their posts alone. Nobody had an identity, skin or race behind any of their post in 4chan. To me that as about as equal as it gets. And no, i still don't think your analogy about it being one creature is correct. I still think my original analogy suited it better. And i doubt they are misogynists as much as they just want to wreck as much havoc as possible without anyone being the wiser. 4chan was just a place they spread the nude, mind you.

And the hammer drop was stupid. They dropped it on a topic that doesn't deserved to get dropped, and m00t having shitty communication skill as well. We still have assholes threaten Emma Watson and leaking nude celeb, why not dropped on THAT? That's really my problem with the current 4chan. The outright hypocrisy and censorship.

4chan at this rate will die a slow death.

Hotwheels 4 life.
 

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Dakkagor said:
Can you at least try and make it look like this actually happened?

One look at this thread and it just looks like someone took all the shit that they hear about 4chan and just slapped it on a cleverbot conversation.

Jesus dude. Not one respectable member on there, practically any board, who could ever hope to represent anything from that site has ever said "We are x" within the past couple years
 

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dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
I deliberately tried to put some to GG side by giving out arguments or points. I know my voice is small if I speak to that community, but it wouldn't hurt if I try even if the site is deemed not affiliated with GamerGate. The threads that I have bumped had been archived instantly (read only document) or pruned instantly. I still try because to tell you honestly, I learned about the movement from that site.
 

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GJHenry said:
dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
I deliberately tried to put some to GG side by giving out arguments or points. I know my voice is small if I speak to that community, but it wouldn't hurt if I try even if the site is deemed not affiliated with GamerGate. The threads that I have bumped had been archived instantly (read only document) or pruned instantly. I still try because to tell you honestly, I learned about the movement from that site.
It's useless to try and post about GG there. Certain topics and keywords are automatically scrubbed and everything GG related is the new addition to the filter.

Funny how much I learned about chan mentality in the month I visited 4chan and 8chan.

8chan is a far superior platform btw.
 

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dragoongfa said:
GJHenry said:
dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
I deliberately tried to put some to GG side by giving out arguments or points. I know my voice is small if I speak to that community, but it wouldn't hurt if I try even if the site is deemed not affiliated with GamerGate. The threads that I have bumped had been archived instantly (read only document) or pruned instantly. I still try because to tell you honestly, I learned about the movement from that site.
It's useless to try and post about GG there. Certain topics and keywords are automatically scrubbed and everything GG related is the new addition to the filter.

Funny how much I learned about chan mentality in the month I visited 4chan and 8chan.

8chan is a far superior platform btw.
I still firmly believe that I could persuade two or more voices. I just discovered about the movement 2 days ago and this was during the time that censorship was at large. I manage to think of ways to post without endangering myself from keywords/filters even lasting my posts for more than the average life of a thread. I agree with you, 8chan is now more superior due to advocating free speech. Additionally, 4chan got famous enough that it opened up to "new people" which downgrades the content being posted therein.

If you put another perspective, 4chan is somewhat an entry level job. You learn a lot of things, you learn new perspective no matter how radical, and you basically learn their kind of forum etiquette.
 

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You trying to reason with 4chan would be like trying to make my dog understand calculus. Still, an amusing read.
 

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I thought 4chan was alright in my book after vivian james. I liked the concept, i liked the idea. So i thought, lets go to /v/, it seems like a cool place after all and hey i dont mind the usage of "fag" all the time, i aint THAT sensitive despite being a tumblr goer.

first thread "Theres an interesting/attractive lesbian in this game i cant fuck, stupid SJW's ruin everything".

With comments like "Bioware aim for the tumblr market, thats why they add interesting women you cant fuck, only feminists want there to be lesbians or interesting women, and being unfuckable is stupid feminist bullshit".

The upshot was "We dont want any lesbians, and if we do we dont want them to be interesting or attractive because thats SJW bullshit".

Unless the entire thread was total and awesome satire then its obviously a place for every stereotype for MRA's ever by the looks of it. I read through like 100 short comments ALL of them to this effect. All.

Instantly decided i was totally wrong nor will i take any SJW arguments from /v/ members seriously. If writing/wanting/liking an interesting lesbian character makes one a social justice warrior then the terms a joke and i claim victory in every debate regarding it ever by default. I'm still appreciative/supportive of vivian james but jegus. Terrible/stupid people can make some good art/ideas i suppose.

OT: In light of that, colour me unsurprised.

Unless /v/ changed in the last 3 months, I think you've misread their views.

Let me tell you my understandable impression of /v/'s issues with Bioware.

Bioware focuses on diversity and broad-appeal before good writing, and any criticism is either ignored (they admitted they don't even browse the forums anymore) or ruled as unfair criticism. To the whole of /v/ (as well as myself at this point), Bioware's writing died at Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 was the dropping of the 2nd shoe.

In short, Bioware and Bioware's audience has become the "diversity for the sake of diversity."

There is a portion of /v/ that actually WANTS visually attractive and diverse characters (these people are likely supporting TFYC), but they also feel that the SJWs in the audience will be critical of characters looking too pretty and showing skin. It doesn't help that Bioware's models are generally ugly these days.
 

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I'm not concerned, honestly. With passable Photoshop skills and a few headshots it's possible to "leak" nude photos of anybody. That's still pretty horrible, but I think it's still a cut below genuinely violating someone's privacy and stealing real photos of them. Emma Watson's "nudes" have been flying around the internet for years now.

Still, glad to see the 4channers are continuing to make a concerted effort to keep it classy over on their board.
 

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I'm not concerned, honestly. With passable Photoshop skills and a few headshots it's possible to "leak" nude photos of anybody. That's still pretty horrible, but I think it's still a cut below genuinely violating someone's privacy and stealing real photos of them. Emma Watson's "nudes" have been flying around the internet for years now.
Yeah, there was a story about her getting really upset with one piece of rule34 that got run with as a real pic some years ago.

Now, spreading rule34 pics around...yeah, tacky, but doing so to attack someone because she's made a speech that couldn't be considered remotely controversial...another thing altogether.
 
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Dakkagor said:
please try not to be offended
...and already, you don't seem to know who you're talking to.

Dakkagor said:
I think 4chan can afford to laugh at itself
They sure can, if anyone wants to make jokes that are actually funny.

Dakkagor said:
Me: Hey 4chan, how you doing? How's Gamergate these days?
The people on this board you're trying to address mostly don't identify with 4free anymore. We're exiles. Kind of like the Blood Elves. In fact...



Dakkagor said:
4chan: WE ARE LEGION
Forty keks. You do know "le ebin leejun maymay XD" has nothing to do with 4chan specifically, right?

Dakkagor said:
Me: Yeah. . .about that. So, I saw an article on the business insider this morning, and well, I don't think it paints you in a very good light. Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches.
If you think that shitty un-sourced clickbait made them look bad, you should visit /pol/ sometime and see what some of them actually think. In other words, call the allies, they don't give a f***.

Dakkagor said:
It just seems that maybe its time for the moderators to take it in hand and do something about it.
They did. Then we left.

Dakkagor said:
"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Its a good rule to live by in my opinion.
I thought it went:



Dakkagor said:
Maybe its time to stop ragging on the moderators over at 4chan and let them do the best job they can at cutting of the arsehole heads. Maybe they'll grow back, maybe in the meantime 4chan won't be a good place to discuss Gamergate, but I think for the good of the forum as a whole, and all the good parts of it, those voices need to be cleaned out.
Maybe it's time for you to stop telling us who we are and what we should do. We're not a hugbox that needs to be pruned of "bad voices" and made safe for normalfags. We're the embodiment of free speech on the internet, for better and worse.

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I'm going to go cruise /tg/. Stay classy you many headed beast of ruin!
Hope you like your new and "improved" 4chan. You can keep it. Stay funny.
 

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OP's 4Chan lines are completely inaccurate.

The Correct 4Chan Response
 

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Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches.
And why would 4chan care?
Because overwhelmingly vast majority of 4chan are not like that.

There are boards that you should avoid like plague if you don't have really thick skin, can accept that in closed community important words can become meaningless (actually on 4chan that's pretty much on purpose) or can externalize other people's opinion like whole NSFW (often called NSFL) section and sometimes /v/

There are boards for very specific tastes that are not up to everyone's taste (and in some cases can cause nausea) like /u/, /d/, /y/, /t/, /h/

There are boards with some strong content but nothing really disturbing like /s/, /hc/, and the rest of adult section not mentioned previously (drawn stuff can be really disturbing)

And the rest are really clean and really productive. But you can run into, or you could at least 5 years ago, really supportive and helpful threads even on /b/. It's just that it's on a bottom of a cesspool. They really don't want you there unless you are willing to dive down with them :D
 

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Huxley said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
Don't fall into the trap of thinking any forum is a monolith. 4chan is just a collection of anonymous people. There's no central guiding ideology. Without usernames, there's no guarantee that a single person from that thread contributed to TFYC, you could be dealing with two completely different groups of people. Also, people tend to flock to threads that they agree with. An openly sexist thread is likely to attract sexists.

Which is not to say that there isn't a great deal of unsavoury people on the board or that you ought to like it. I only warn against thinking they tar the work/opinions of supporters/creators of other people just because they shared a space. No-one really represents the site, and there was a large contingent of vocal critics there against funding TFYC and creating VJ on 4chan itself (still is).
Well, 4chan is crashing and burning. Curious to see how low it will go:



To note, I donated 120 dollars to the TFYC campaign and had been browsing 4chan since 2008. Now that that sellout m00t is banning discussion on GamerGate, I'm here. Good riddance.
 

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carnex said:
Pinkamena said:
Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches.
And why would 4chan care?
Because overwhelmingly vast majority of 4chan are not like that.

There are boards that you should avoid like plague if you don't have really thick skin, can accept that in closed community important words can become meaningless (actually on 4chan that's pretty much on purpose) or can externalize other people's opinion like whole NSFW (often called NSFL) section and sometimes /v/

There are boards for very specific tastes that are not up to everyone's taste like (and in some cases can cause nausea)like /u/, /d/, /y/, /t/, /h/

There are boards with some strong content but nothing really disturbing like /s/, /hc/, and the rest of adult section not mentioned previously (drawn stuff can be really disturbing)

And the rest are really clean and really productive. But you can run into, or you could at least 5 years ago, really supportive and helpful threads even on /b/. It's just that it's on a bottom of a cesspool. They really don't want you there unless you are willing to dive down with them :D
Yes. I know. I have been using the site for 8 years already. My question was rhetorical, for 4chan doesn't care about its reputation, at least not the parts of 4chan that counts. Bad rep is what it thrives on. It's a pile of horribleness (or, used to be) and that's the way it needs to stay.
 

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I may be uninformed...but why exactly should anyone give a single fuck about nude celebrity photos?

They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?

And as far as threats of *new* releases go, again, it's an illegal act by some member(s) of 4chan, with only the misinformed thinking that 4chan is some collective. And, again, I ask, who cares? And why?

"Hurr sexism" is hardly an argument, when nudes of male actors would be met with all sorts of hypocrisy. Don't try to deny for a second that many, many adult women would love to see nude pictures of Ryan Renalds, etc; illegally obtained or not.

Edit:
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OP's 4Chan lines are completely inaccurate.

The Correct 4Chan Response
I think a response from many would be this:

 

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Ilovechocolatemilk said:
Well, 4chan is crashing and burning. Curious to see how low it will go:



To note, I donated 120 dollars to the TFYC campaign and had been browsing 4chan since 2008. Now that that sellout m00t is banning discussion on GamerGate, I'm here. Good riddance.
Don't forget, if you want a replacement, wholechan (8chan) is available now that halfchan is quickly turning into a heavily-moderated shithole. It has the good parts of Reddit and 4chan combined, because you have the ability to create your own board that you can moderate yourself, while also having the "main" boards that the majority use (in addition to any other created ones that they've also joined).

Best part is that the admin, Hotwheels, is freaking awesome, and communicates with the community and is continuously striving to make the site better.

Plus, anonymity (on some of the boards. They're still in the testing phase). Here and 8chan are my new and only homes, for now.
 

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Didn't CNN establish earlier that 4chan is NOT a hivemind? He is a person! He may have been a Systems Administrator.
 

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Didn't CNN establish earlier that 4chan is NOT a hivemind? He is a person! He may have been a Systems Administrator.
They can also explode vans, can't forget about them.
 

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If I take a screenshot every time some snot-nosed punk makes an empty threat on 4chan and forward it to Gawker Media, do you suppose they'll pay me for it? Oh wait, they only want the threats aimed at famous rich people? Bummer.

Would anyone actually care if 4chan eats itself at this point? It was never supposed to grow to this size. Now it's collapsing under its own weight and the mods have no idea how to deal with it.
 

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4Chan is sort of deplorable in every way ever.

But I learned how to make cheesecake from reading a discussion on there, so it gets a thumbs up from me.
 

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If I take a screenshot every time some snot-nosed punk makes an empty threat on 4chan and forward it to Gawker Media, do you suppose they'll pay me for it? Oh wait, they only want the threats aimed at famous rich people? Bummer.

Would anyone actually care if 4chan eats itself at this point? It was never supposed to grow to this size. Now it's collapsing under its own weight and the mods have no idea how to deal with it.
Many from 4chan would have no problem if the viewer count plummeted. Lot of people blame 4chan getting popular from chanology being a reason for a cause of decline (cancer) and 4chan becoming less popular and more niche again would benefit the old guard.
 

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Some kind of strawman post about how you're better then a website who's claim to fame is a collaboration of its loudest mouths most satirical/asinine posts?

Well that's all the time I have. I must continue worshiping Ebola-chan.
 

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Wait, you expected some actual discussion value at 4chan? Bloody 4chan? What?

I mean, I like the site in the way that you like a dam. It's not going to make for any good conversation, but hey, at least it keeps the bullshit all isolated somewhere far away from me. I'm not sure why anyone would go there for actual discussion, especially if they can't really stand trolling or shitposting.
 

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Either you're new to 4chan or you don't know really much about the culture there.
While each board thinks that /b/ and /pol/ are the cancer, they are tolerated by all boards exactly because of the bad reputation it gives the site. They don't want new, thin skinned people to come to the site. /b/ was basically a double filter. It would filter out all the thin skinned people in the first place by making them not come. The second filter is that it would keep the morons in /b/ and only those who realized 4chan is more than /b/ will leave /b/ as a better human and enjoy the rest of the site.

The hostility towards "newfags" was there to force them to "lurk moar", to learn the board culture (each board has its own culture, it's different and you should never go from one board to another and start posting without lurking for a bit to learn the ropes), to either accept it or to get the fuck out because they aren't welcome. The hostility is a filter to anyone unwelcome, the reward is getting some great time on the site when you learned how to differentiate the shit topics from the real topics.

At least that's how it was back in the days when 4chan wasn't shit and people /v/ did't go out of its way to invite more and more people who don't know anything about the posting culture. Now it's just a mess.
While not all the bad reputation can be said is intentional, a big part of it is or was. I don't know anymore, I just know that /v/ isn't even close to what it was, especially lately with the huge influx of new blood that doesn't understand anything yet want to change everything. For fucks sake, they are getting offended by being called the F word. That's the first indicator of how new they are and that they should lurk moar or leave. But because of the huge influx of new blood, they are really loud and there aren't enough "oldfags" to harass them until they comply and learn the ropes. But the downhill spiral started even before that so I can't really blame the new folks.
 

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dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
Everyone's talking about jumping ship to 8chan.co

It's a lot like the first schism where a bunch of people fled to 7chan, except they're not pedos defending their right to post illegal jailbait and loli images this time.

By everyone I mean the guys who frequent /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Most of the other boards are pretty much unaffected.
As an /a/ resident, I've also jumped ship after recieving a total of 13 days of bans over the past 14 days for posting stuff that the new mods just decided they didn't like. Like a picture with sideboob on /a/. An anime drawing of a video game character got me banned on /vg/ for not pertaining to video games. And I got banned for 7 days on /v/ for posting in a GG thread.

4chan is no longer the place it once was. It's got new mods that ban completely arbitrarily and randomly and moot is a slave to an army of lawyers now.
 

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Unless the entire thread was total and awesome satire then its obviously a place for every stereotype for MRA's ever by the looks of it. I read through like 100 short comments ALL of them to this effect. All.
It is most of the time, they pick up the usual nitpick and go up to eleven with the joke. Like Bioware recently includes a lot of homosexual content (it was even made fun of in Dragon Age 2 where you couldnt be nice to anyone or in the next cutscene you would be having sex with that person, a lot of people probably werent planing on having same sex relations in that game but they happened anyway) so they put that joke up to eleve. Add to the fact that every character in Dragon Age Inquisition is trying to look ugly and you have the mix for exageration to take a jokingly stab at the turbo feminist tumblr crowd. In the end its exageration on purpose to get the rise out of people, sometimes even simply baiting with some foundations to end up with a successful bait.

You end up getting used to it and very easily spotting the joke comment and the serious comment.
 

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Wait, you expected some actual discussion value at 4chan? Bloody 4chan? What?

I mean, I like the site in the way that you like a dam. It's not going to make for any good conversation, but hey, at least it keeps the bullshit all isolated somewhere far away from me. I'm not sure why anyone would go there for actual discussion, especially if they can't really stand trolling or shitposting.
I've seen just as much intelligent and insightful conversation on 4chan as I have on any other site over the years. I'd tell you to look for yourself, but frankly the site has become a shell of its former self in the past month.
 

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I may be uninformed...but why exactly should anyone give a single fuck about nude celebrity photos?
a violation of privacy for one

[quote/]They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?[/quote]
they are "fair game" in the same way that somones bike sitting there without a bikelock is "fair game" its so easy to take it but that doesn't make it ok

[quote/]"Hurr sexism" is hardly an argument[/quote]
of coarse it isn't...it isn't even a coherent sentence

[quote/]when nudes of male actors would be met with all sorts of hypocrisy. Don't try to deny for a second that many, many adult women would love to see nude pictures of Ryan Renalds, etc; illegally obtained or not.
[/quote]
wich proves...what exactly?

1. it hasn't happened

2. it would ALSO be an invasion of privacy (and not ok)

3. don't pretend all this happens in a post-sexist vacumn...it doesn't
 

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[quote/]They were illegally obtained. That's it. Now that they're on the internet, they're fair game, but why is anyone making a big deal of it?
they are "fair game" in the same way that somones bike sitting there without a bikelock is "fair game" its so easy to take it but that doesn't make it ok

[/quote]

That's the part I don't understand.

Once a photo is shared, it's fair game, in the sense that it's impossible to police. It's the same with any nude photos, of which there are tens of thousands all over various sites. To compare it to a bike, physical property, is obviously incompatible.

The part I don't understand is that this WAS the line of thinking when Hilten's video was leaked, or Vanessa Hudgens.

Is it the fact that the former were hacked while the latter were presumably released by the ex? I could understand the logical/legal difference, but I'd disagree that it should be given any fucks just because *a famous person's* privacy was violated and the evidence spread.

I just don't get the "big deal" part. Privacy was invaded. Big whoop. Some member of 4chan threatens to do it further. Big whoop. Sucks for the parties involved, but its spread over the internet is not a big deal.
 

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That's the part I don't understand.

Once a photo is shared, it's fair game, in the sense that it's impossible to police.
and my point still stands, just because nobody will stop you from doing something [I/]doesn't make it ok[/I] you could argue that merely looking at them isn't "as bad" as sharing because the former doesn't "contribute" to it or that the "blame" capacity acts like a pyramid (guy who "hacked" them and shared at the top) but its still not righto view naked photos of someone if you know that was not their intention

[quote/]It's the same with any nude photos, of which there are tens of thousands all over various sites.[/quote]

a lot of those nude images are probably consensual, we know for a fact the celebrity ones are not



[quote/]Is it the fact that the former were hacked while the latter were presumably released by the ex? I could understand the logical/legal difference,[/quote]
I never said there was one, though being released by an ex seems almost worse to me since its such a petty malicious thing to do

[quote/]but I'd disagree that it should be given any fucks just because *a famous person's* privacy was violated and the evidence spread.

I just don't get the "big deal" part. Privacy was invaded. Big whoop. Some member of 4chan threatens to do it further. Big whoop. Sucks for the parties involved, but its spread over the internet is not a big deal.[/quote]

maybe it [I/]hurts[/I] people? maybe its humiliating? maybe they feel violated? maybe it can seriously harm their reputation?
 

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4Chan is not something that anyone should take seriously regarding anything. Those that do clearly have no idea what they are talking about. It puts you on par with the CNN guy who thought 4Chan was a person.
 

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4Chan is not something that anyone should take seriously regarding anything. Those that do clearly have no idea what they are talking about. It puts you on par with the CNN guy who thought 4Chan was a person.
Just so you don't get hate elsewhere on the internet, it's 4chan, not 4Chan.
Vault101 said:
[quote/]but I'd disagree that it should be given any fucks just because *a famous person's* privacy was violated and the evidence spread.

I just don't get the "big deal" part. Privacy was invaded. Big whoop. Some member of 4chan threatens to do it further. Big whoop. Sucks for the parties involved, but its spread over the internet is not a big deal.
maybe it [I/]hurts[/I] people? maybe its humiliating? maybe they feel violated? maybe it can seriously harm their reputation?[/quote]

I admit those, but I just don't see at as much more than tripping during the graduation ceremony. Really embarrassing/humiliating for the time being, but inconsequential in the long run (since essentially everyone their age does it to begin with, and because of the number of people involved). The reputation part, too, since this is after the Vanessa Hudgins incident. I don't get why we haven't gotten to the "it's embarrassing to be leaked but normal in private" stage despite it being exactly that.

It could mostly be that I just don't care about an issue like this, given that I'm pretty sure one or several pictures of my dick are spread around the internet because of a certain jilted ex. But..I simply don't give a heck, even if my name ended up attached (so long as my size is deemed sufficient).
 

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I admit those, but I just don't see at as much more than tripping during the graduation ceremony. Really embarrassing/humiliating for the time being, but inconsequential in the long run (since essentially everyone their age does it to begin with, and because of the number of people involved). The reputation part, too, since this is after the Vanessa Hudgins incident. I don't get why we haven't gotten to the "it's embarrassing to be leaked but normal in private" stage despite it being exactly that.

It could mostly be that I just don't care about an issue like this, given that I'm pretty sure one or several pictures of my dick are spread around the internet because of a certain jilted ex. But..I simply don't give a heck, even if my name ended up attached (so long as my size is deemed sufficient).
Tripping during a ceremony is something you do yourself.

If you were to be tripped by someone on purpose, and the media went round blaming you for not stopping them doing that, and how you are setting a terrible example to kids, then it might be more comparable.
 

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... 4chan is crashing and burning by having the same amount of traffic as they did a year ago? Really gotta let that chart go for a couple more months for any conclusions to be reached from it.
 

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I left shortly after the whole BOXXY wars debacle, with many others who hung there from starters. And, back then, nobody really cared at all about /b/, much less /pol/. Also many of /k/ommandos and /p/ros were /b/tards too.

P.S. I didn't speak of cultures of different boards. I never even lurked many boards. As I said, /k/ and /p/ were my mains with occasional hot to several others.
 

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It is most of the time, they pick up the usual nitpick and go up to eleven with the joke. Like Bioware recently includes a lot of homosexual content (it was even made fun of in Dragon Age 2 where you couldnt be nice to anyone or in the next cutscene you would be having sex with that person, a lot of people probably werent planing on having same sex relations in that game but they happened anyway) so they put that joke up to eleve. Add to the fact that every character in Dragon Age Inquisition is trying to look ugly and you have the mix for exageration to take a jokingly stab at the turbo feminist tumblr crowd. In the end its exageration on purpose to get the rise out of people, sometimes even simply baiting with some foundations to end up with a successful bait.

You end up getting used to it and very easily spotting the joke comment and the serious comment.
If it was satire theres obviously a level in the community im just not used to, because it was played DAMN straight, like some comments were obviously light hearted but the general idea that a game with lesbians in it is a SJW game by default was played straight as an arrow. Maybe theres some nuance though, perhaps youre right. It just didnt read like satire, and tbh im not sure i want to wade through potentially terrible and childish discussions to understand it but thats my prerogative.

It just read like a load of horny teenagers denied a porn mag. Maybe i projected my expectations onto the text :p
 

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chadachada123 said:
I admit those, but I just don't see at as much more than tripping during the graduation ceremony. Really embarrassing/humiliating for the time being, but inconsequential in the long run (since essentially everyone their age does it to begin with, and because of the number of people involved). The reputation part, too, since this is after the Vanessa Hudgins incident. I don't get why we haven't gotten to the "it's embarrassing to be leaked but normal in private" stage despite it being exactly that.

It could mostly be that I just don't care about an issue like this, given that I'm pretty sure one or several pictures of my dick are spread around the internet because of a certain jilted ex. But..I simply don't give a heck, even if my name ended up attached (so long as my size is deemed sufficient).
Tripping during a ceremony is something you do yourself.

If you were to be tripped by someone on purpose, and the media went round blaming you for not stopping them doing that, and how you are setting a terrible example to kids, then it might be more comparable.


Who, except for a couple of pundits and stupid soccer moms, would say that? Who the hell would blame them, nor say they're setting a bad example?

THOSE are the types that are immoral, not anyone spreading them around the internet. (The person that started it is obviously an illegal dick, but everyone else is nothing compared to Hollywood, tabloids, and soccer moms).

So, yeah, caring about what Hollywood media says is pretty silly. Just tell them to politely fuck off. Problem solved.

Your analogy is right about the media being retarded for putting false blame, but your peers (fellow graduates) wouldn't be judging you for it, nor thinking it was your fault yada yada. They'd think it funny at first then be pissed at the one who tripped you if it became more than "heh, she got tripped."
 

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Who, except for a couple of pundits and stupid soccer moms, would say that? Who the hell would blame them, nor say they're setting a bad example?

THOSE are the types that are immoral, not anyone spreading them around the internet. (The person that started it is obviously an illegal dick, but everyone else is nothing compared to Hollywood, tabloids, and soccer moms).

So, yeah, caring about what Hollywood media says is pretty silly. Just tell them to politely fuck off. Problem solved.

Your analogy is right about the media being retarded for putting false blame, but your peers (fellow graduates) wouldn't be judging you for it, nor thinking it was your fault yada yada. They'd think it funny at first then be pissed at the one who tripped you if it became more than "heh, she got tripped."
Was it...Vanessa Hudgens or something who had to come out and apologise to her fans that someone leaked naked pics of her? And her career took a nasty knock, IIRC.

Sure, people really shouldn't judge, but they do, and in great numbers. Hell, remember when Kristen Stewart had an affair with someone that wasn't RPatt and there was a massive backlash against her?
 

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Oh fantastic! Turns out the whole thing was a hoax by a scummy, slimy "PR firm", who are a cover for a group of professional trolls.

You know what, if the internet wasn't integral to my job, I'd just live in a flipping cave.

http://www.businessinsider.com/emma-watson-naked-photo-countdown-hoax-2014-9#ixzz3EEiqEpy9
 

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thaluikhain said:
chadachada123 said:
Who, except for a couple of pundits and stupid soccer moms, would say that? Who the hell would blame them, nor say they're setting a bad example?

THOSE are the types that are immoral, not anyone spreading them around the internet. (The person that started it is obviously an illegal dick, but everyone else is nothing compared to Hollywood, tabloids, and soccer moms).

So, yeah, caring about what Hollywood media says is pretty silly. Just tell them to politely fuck off. Problem solved.

Your analogy is right about the media being retarded for putting false blame, but your peers (fellow graduates) wouldn't be judging you for it, nor thinking it was your fault yada yada. They'd think it funny at first then be pissed at the one who tripped you if it became more than "heh, she got tripped."
Was it...Vanessa Hudgens or something who had to come out and apologise to her fans that someone leaked naked pics of her? And her career took a nasty knock, IIRC.

Sure, people really shouldn't judge, but they do, and in great numbers. Hell, remember when Kristen Stewart had an affair with someone that wasn't RPatt and there was a massive backlash against her?
Fair point for the first; I believe you're correct there.

The second one, though? She deserves mocking and the like, as do any adulterers. In my opinion. But that's an entirely different subject.

I guess I'll revise my thoughts on the subject: HOPEFULLY these actresses won't have their careers damaged, and if they do, it's almost entirely because of soccer moms and Hollywood, not the spread of them on the internet (per the OP). And, of course, the fault of the hacker himself, who may or may not be using 4chan as a cover.
 

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Dakkagor said:
Oh fantastic! Turns out the whole thing was a hoax by a scummy, slimy "PR firm", who are a cover for a group of professional trolls.

You know what, if the internet wasn't integral to my job, I'd just live in a flipping cave.

http://www.businessinsider.com/emma-watson-naked-photo-countdown-hoax-2014-9#ixzz3EEiqEpy9
As mentioned in other threads, that might be what people at 4chan want us to think.

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The second one, though? She deserves mocking and the like, as do any adulterers. In my opinion. But that's an entirely different subject.
She got it, he didn't, IIRC.

chadachada123 said:
I guess I'll revise my thoughts on the subject: HOPEFULLY these actresses won't have their careers damaged, and if they do, it's almost entirely because of soccer moms and Hollywood, not the spread of them on the internet (per the OP). And, of course, the fault of the hacker himself, who may or may not be using 4chan as a cover.
Well...without them being spread on the net, we'd not have the issue.
 

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Eh, hit quote not edit. First time I've done that.

...

[small]Now, back when there was lots of double posting, I'd mention H2O: Just add water, but now I guess the spinoff Mako Mermaids is more relevant. And Lucy Fry from that went on to be in the, IMHO, unfairly maligned Vampire Academy movie.

US vampire stuff, taking Australian mermaids and making them put on bad British accents[/small]
 
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Oh fantastic! Turns out the whole thing was a hoax by a scummy, slimy "PR firm", who are a cover for a group of professional trolls.

You know what, if the internet wasn't integral to my job, I'd just live in a flipping cave.

http://www.businessinsider.com/emma-watson-naked-photo-countdown-hoax-2014-9#ixzz3EEiqEpy9
Yeah, 8chan's /pol/ broke that story themselves after a lot of investigation and passed it on to any news agency they thought would cover it. Not that it was hard to figure out after that site started redirecting to that whole "#ShutDown4chan" page. They even made an infograph with evidence:



Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there. But you know what - we can take it. Because we're the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt us; but they'll never pin us down. We're more than a site, now. We're a goddamn ethnicity, and we refuse to be genocided. Home is where the heart is, guys. Keep your chin up and fight back.
 

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Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there. But you know what - we can take it. Because we're the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt us; but they'll never pin us down. We're more than a site, now. We're a goddamn ethnicity, and we refuse to be genocided. Home is where the heart is, guys. Keep your chin up and fight back.
Genocided? The hero the internet deserves?

This is a joke, right?
 

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Don Incognito said:
implyingimplications said:
Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there. But you know what - we can take it. Because we're the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt us; but they'll never pin us down. We're more than a site, now. We're a goddamn ethnicity, and we refuse to be genocided. Home is where the heart is, guys. Keep your chin up and fight back.
Genocided? The hero the internet deserves?

This is a joke, right?
I'm rather hoping so myself, but it's really hard to tell sometimes.
 

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I dont go into 4chan a lot, but I don't understand why people care so much that somewhere in the internet someone is saying things thay don't agree with and maybe *gasp* expressing those views in non-approved ways. Why the interest in moderating the whole world? It gets boring sometimes.
 

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I dont go into 4chan a lot, but I don't understand why people care so much that somewhere in the internet someone is saying things thay don't agree with and maybe *gasp* expressing those views in non-approved ways. Why the interest in moderating the whole world? It gets boring sometimes.
Because your rights end where my feelings begin!
 
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implyingimplications said:
Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there. But you know what - we can take it. Because we're the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt us; but they'll never pin us down. We're more than a site, now. We're a goddamn ethnicity, and we refuse to be genocided. Home is where the heart is, guys. Keep your chin up and fight back.
Genocided? The hero the internet deserves?

This is a joke, right?
>lol hay guise look at this fag
>he actually cares about the last bastion of free speech on the internet
>he think's he's part of a community whose old home is being sanitized and sold off
>he thinks there's a concerted effort to censor and slander channers
>he must be joking


Okay.

By the way, if you're going to shitpost, at least put a wacky image in there or something.
 

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Whilst I may not be too interested in the content that gets posted on 4chan.

I simply have to respect that it exists.

Whoever, recent events do disappoint me.

4chan is supposed to be a place in which anyone can say anything without any concerns of right or wrong. It's supposed to be free speech to the nth degree.

Sadly, it falls very short of that as of late.
 

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implyingimplications said:
Don Incognito said:
implyingimplications said:
Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there. But you know what - we can take it. Because we're the hero the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So they'll hunt us; but they'll never pin us down. We're more than a site, now. We're a goddamn ethnicity, and we refuse to be genocided. Home is where the heart is, guys. Keep your chin up and fight back.
Genocided? The hero the internet deserves?

This is a joke, right?
>lol hay guise look at this fag
>he actually cares about the last bastion of free speech on the internet
>he think's he's part of a community whose old home is being sanitized and sold off
>he thinks there's a concerted effort to censor and slander channers
>he must be joking


Okay.

By the way, if you're going to shitpost, at least put a wacky image in there or something.
Okay. You keep being you, buddy.
 

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>Thinking 4chan is a hive mind
>Believing that all board culture is identical to /b/'s or /v/'s
>Shiggery Diggery

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People who believe 4chan to be the internet's equivalent to Mos Eisley and construct all their opinions/perceptions of it on that fact should just go visit and lurk for a while.
The board language, in-jokes and memes will seem impenetrable at first, but you'll begin to understand after a while.
Pick a board based on your interests and go from there (although avoid /v/, /vg/ is good for certain games) and just lurk.

You'll hopefully leave with some insight to how anonymity effects social norms and restrictions in discussions, for better and for worse.
 
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Okay. You keep being you, buddy.

OT: Now that we know this whole thing was a hoax, is the thread over, or do any intellectual titans want to chime in on how above all this low-class 4chan hullabaloo they are? Because frankly, I'm pretty tired of seeing people shit-talk and make hasty assumptions about a community they aren't a part of and think they're too good to try to understand.
 

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(BIG FREAKING NOTE: please try not to be offended. At this point I'm using humour to cling to sanity. And really, I think 4chan can afford to laugh at itself)

Me: Hey 4chan, how you doing? How's Gamergate these days?

(at this point, please imagine this: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/034/4/1/hydra__dipsy_demo__by_sandara-d74271p.jpg
standing in for 4chan)

4chan: WE ARE LEGION/NAKED PICTURES OF EMMA WATSON/OH NO NOT THIS AGAIN/GAMES JOURNALISM/FAGFAGFAG

Me: Yeah. . .about that. So, I saw an article on the business insider this morning, and well, I don't think it paints you in a very good light. Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches. Now I understand that not all the heads speak for each other, in-fact that as a community there is a wide range of both good and bad people (like most communities) but do you think you could deal with that head that keeps being such a sexist asshole all the time? I'll just post the link down here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/4chan-hackers-threatening-to-post-naked-photographs-of-emma-watson-2014-9

4chan: KILL ONE HEAD AND TWO APPEAR/SHE'S A SLUT AND SHE DESERVES IT/BUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH/THATS NOT WHAT GAMERGATE IS ABOUT/WE ARE NOT A HIVEMIND!

Me: Right, I know you're not a hivemind, no community is. . .now, the problem you have is that every-time something like this happens recently, it originates from one of the boards, either /b/ or /v/. It just seems that maybe its time for the moderators to take it in hand and do something about it. I know the anarchic nature of the community is one of the main draws for its members, but as long as you don't police the boards the worst, loudest voices in that community will continue to paint the rest of you in a bad light. Publicly attacking figures like this is only proving their point, and turning people against you. Are you aware of a quote commonly mis-attributed to from Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., but actually originating from Zechariah Chafee?

4chan: WE ARE THE SPAWN OF DARKNESS/SCREW THAT FEMINAZI/WE DON'T CONTROL THOSE GUYS/HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT SILVERSTRING ARE DOING/NO I AM NOT

Me: It goes "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Its a good rule to live by in my opinion. It plays into Free Speech as well. You have the right to talk, everyone does. You just don't have the right to be heard. People are free to judge you on your actions and words, and that means if you say something bone deep stupid or sexist, they are free to ignore, condemn, critique or ridicule. Just like Anita Sarkessian is free to critique video games. You are in turn, free to criticism her, but don't be surprised if after insulting, harassing and threatening her, she defends herself by shutting down comments. Thats a pretty reasonable response. Being civil, stopping your fist short of the other persons nose, means people are more likely to listen to you.

4chan: WE ARE THE VOICES OF CONTAGION/STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT/GODDAMNIT SHUT UP YOU ARE NOT HELPING/LOOK AT THESE CONNECTIONS IN MEDIA/THATS A GOOD POINT

Me: Similarly, attacking a public figure with threats of spreading pictures of her online is just going make people condemn the whole damn community. Maybe its time to stop ragging on the moderators over at 4chan and let them do the best job they can at cutting of the arsehole heads. Maybe they'll grow back, maybe in the meantime 4chan won't be a good place to discuss Gamergate, but I think for the good of the forum as a whole, and all the good parts of it, those voices need to be cleaned out.

4chan: WE ARE LORDS OF TYPHON/STFU FEMINAZI ARGH SWORD AND ACID/OH THANK GOD HE GOT CUT OFF/COLLUSION BETWEEN MODERATORS AND PRESS/THANKS FOR BEING REASONABLE.

Me: No problem. I'm going to go cruise /tg/. Stay classy you many headed beast of ruin!

4chan: WE ARE LEGION/...ARGH REGROWING HURTS LIKE YOUR MOM/DAMN HE'S BACK AGAIN/THE MOVEMENT IS NOT ABOUT ZOE QUINN/SEE YOU AROUND!

(Note: again, not overly serious. . .but come on guys, you have to understand why you have such an awful reputation around the internet, and people struggle to take you seriously, even when you have good points, when 4chan self identifies as the anarchic Mos Eisely of the internet.)

captcha: in over my head. . . .ho boy. . .
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I'm sorry but you are obviously very misinformed with the situation and believe in whatever lies have been fed to you without doing the proper research.
 

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implyingimplications said:
OT: Now that we know this whole thing was a hoax, is the thread over, or do any intellectual titans want to chime in on how above all this low-class 4chan hullabaloo they are? Because frankly, I'm pretty tired of seeing people shit-talk and make hasty assumptions about a community they aren't a part of and think they're too good to try to understand.
Far be it from me to criticize "the hero the internet deserves". I wouldn't want you think I was trying to "genocide" you.

Maybe take a walk outside for a little while? Step away from the keyboard a bit?
 

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dragoongfa said:
TheYellowCellPhone said:
dragoongfa said:
4chan is no longer affiliated with GamerGate after the banning of the discussion a week ago.

Nice joke though.
Everyone's talking about jumping ship to 8chan.co

It's a lot like the first schism where a bunch of people fled to 7chan, except they're not pedos defending their right to post illegal jailbait and loli images this time.

By everyone I mean the guys who frequent /pol/, /b/, and /v/. Most of the other boards are pretty much unaffected.
Lot's of people from /k/, /a/ and /sp/ also jumped ship if the relevant 8chan boards are any indication.

Also Hotwheels announced a collaboration of 8chan with 2chan
I haven't noticed to much difference in /k/. All seems to be as it typically is.

OT: The emma watson thing was a hoax by an advertising company.

EDIT: Looking at the /k/ board on 8chan, I feel quite at home.
 
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Maybe take a walk outside for a little while? Step away from the keyboard a bit?
...says the guy repeatedly shitposting in a thread about events he obviously has no stake in. Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8

Mods, if I were you I'd lock this thread. OP's topic turned out to be a hoax, and if he wants to discuss that he can make a new thread cause there's sure as hell no one in here that wants to have an actual discussion.
 

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Maybe take a walk outside for a little while? Step away from the keyboard a bit?
We're posting on an internet forum about videogames arguing over the alleged actions another website that also likes videogames.

We all need to go outside.
 

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I haven't noticed to much difference in /k/. All seems to be as it typically is.

OT: The emma watson thing was a hoax by an advertising company.

EDIT: Looking at the /k/ board on 8chan, I feel quite at home.
Yeah, same here. I mostly use /k/, and it doesn't feel that much different at first glance. There's no Ukraine or Syria general threads, which I have mixed feelings about...
 

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implyingimplications said:
Don Incognito said:
Okay. You keep being you, buddy.

OT: Now that we know this whole thing was a hoax, is the thread over, or do any intellectual titans want to chime in on how above all this low-class 4chan hullabaloo they are? Because frankly, I'm pretty tired of seeing people shit-talk and make hasty assumptions about a community they aren't a part of and think they're too good to try to understand.
No, we need to inform EVERYONE in the thread. Just quote every person before the pic leak link and any new people after that don't know, and refer them to your first post.

Shit, we need to inform EVERYONE related to the subject that we and 4chan have been duped.
 

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Dakkagor said:
dragoongfa said:
xDarc said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
Huxley said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
Mr.Doh said:
Doclector said:
SonicWaffle said:

I won't quote the rest of the people in this thread, but I thought it VERY important to know this:

implyingimplications said:
Dakkagor said:
Oh fantastic! Turns out the whole thing was a hoax by a scummy, slimy "PR firm", who are a cover for a group of professional trolls.

You know what, if the internet wasn't integral to my job, I'd just live in a flipping cave.

http://www.businessinsider.com/emma-watson-naked-photo-countdown-hoax-2014-9#ixzz3EEiqEpy9
Yeah, 8chan's /pol/ broke that story themselves after a lot of investigation and passed it on to any news agency they thought would cover it. Not that it was hard to figure out after that site started redirecting to that whole "#ShutDown4chan" page. They even made an infograph with evidence:



Regardless, it's fucking ON, now. Everyone, including you, OP, was so willing to believe that 4chan are a bunch of scumbags that you'll believe any clever hoax without evidence just because somebody slaps "we r leejun" on it, claiming to be from there.
4chan is being used by a bunch of expert trolls for money. I repeat: 4chan is innocent in all of this.
 

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Don Incognito said:
Maybe take a walk outside for a little while? Step away from the keyboard a bit?
We're posting on an internet forum about videogames arguing over the alleged actions another website that also likes videogames.

We all need to go outside.
It's a fair cop.
 

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No, we need to inform EVERYONE in the thread. Just quote every person before the pic leak link and any new people after that don't know, and refer them to your first post.

Shit, we need to inform EVERYONE related to the subject that we and 4chan have been duped.
There is this thread, mind:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.861470-The-Rantic-Marketing-Emma-Watson-photo-leak-hoax-is-a-hoax-itself

Now, not saying what the truth of it is, but maybe something to bear in mind.
 

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implyingimplications said:
Don Incognito said:
Maybe take a walk outside for a little while? Step away from the keyboard a bit?
...says the guy repeatedly shitposting in a thread about events he obviously has no stake in. Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8

Mods, if I were you I'd lock this thread. OP's topic turned out to be a hoax, and if he wants to discuss that he can make a new thread cause there's sure as hell no one in here that wants to have an actual discussion.
Well mods, you heard the hero the internet deserves. Better do what he says, or he might genocide you, or something.
 

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Well mods, you heard the hero the internet deserves. Better do what he says, or he might genocide you, or something.
No, be genocided at. Not the same thing at all.
 

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Of course, how foolish of me. Thank you for correcting that error, thaluikhain, and I apologize to the hero the internet deserves for my mistake.
 

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I remember the last time an OP had a 'talk' with 4chan. The Escapist was raided shortly after.

I prefer to live and let live. Don't kick the hornets nest.
 

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Who gives a crap about 4chan? Its a hacker nest and full of retards. It should just be wiped from the internet.
 

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Who gives a crap about 4chan? Its a hacker nest and full of retards. It should just be wiped from the internet.
If you destroy 4chan it will either reform elsewhere


Or various pieces of it will split and swarm the internet, like a swarm of bees emerging from a shattered hive, only each can think indiviually....
 

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Mr.Doh said:
My point is that as long as 4chan doesn't control its idiot misogynists, people will keep treating it as the Internet bogeyman, whether it deserves that treatment or not. I'm not surprised the mods have finally dropped the hammer, even though they may have dropped it on the wrong people.
Funnily enough the Gamergate threads prior to the complete censorship were doing a good job of policing themselves and reporting and mocking any idiotic posts asking for doxxing or death threats.
 

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For all we know the people who sent death threats did it on their own. Or maybe they organized via Facebook? Perhaps we should get Zuckerberg in the party van. There is 0 proof there was anything organized from 4chan. People go to 4chan, don't like that people is saying stuff they don't like and they decide it's guilty of whatever is happening on the internet these days.

Again. This is a case of people in one board wanting to apply their standards to every other board in the net. It's ridiculous.
 

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(BIG FREAKING NOTE: please try not to be offended. At this point I'm using humour to cling to sanity. And really, I think 4chan can afford to laugh at itself)

Me: Hey 4chan, how you doing? How's Gamergate these days?

(at this point, please imagine this: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/034/4/1/hydra__dipsy_demo__by_sandara-d74271p.jpg
standing in for 4chan)

4chan: WE ARE LEGION/NAKED PICTURES OF EMMA WATSON/OH NO NOT THIS AGAIN/GAMES JOURNALISM/FAGFAGFAG

Me: Yeah. . .about that. So, I saw an article on the business insider this morning, and well, I don't think it paints you in a very good light. Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches. Now I understand that not all the heads speak for each other, in-fact that as a community there is a wide range of both good and bad people (like most communities) but do you think you could deal with that head that keeps being such a sexist asshole all the time? I'll just post the link down here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/4chan-hackers-threatening-to-post-naked-photographs-of-emma-watson-2014-9
Hey dakkagor

Wasn't us, lrn2whois

4chan

EDIT: looks like you updated the OP and mentioned it in other replies. That'll teach me to heave a reply half posted.
 

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STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Seriously though I think the damage is done as far as 4Chan's reputation goes. Reddit too for that matter. They are the embodiment of the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things".
 

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Battenberg said:
Dakkagor said:
STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Seriously though I think the damage is done as far as 4Chan's reputation goes. Reddit too for that matter. They are the embodiment of the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things".
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
 

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Thorn14 said:
Battenberg said:
Dakkagor said:
STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Seriously though I think the damage is done as far as 4Chan's reputation goes. Reddit too for that matter. They are the embodiment of the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things".
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Which is kind of my point. They may not care about their reputation but if the world in general views them as a bunch of angry, prejudiced nerds who lock themselves away to spread hateful messages on the internet then that is the sort of person they'll attract. In my experience angry people don't get on well with anyone but other angry people REALLY rile them up. Eventually the people on 4chan who enjoyed the anarchic state the site is constantly in but aren't comfortable with personally attacking people will be forced out or become targets themselves.
 

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Battenberg said:
Thorn14 said:
Battenberg said:
Dakkagor said:
STFU SJW SHE WON'T SCREW YOU FOR IT
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Seriously though I think the damage is done as far as 4Chan's reputation goes. Reddit too for that matter. They are the embodiment of the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things".
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Which is kind of my point. They may not care about their reputation but if the world in general views them as a bunch of angry, prejudiced nerds who lock themselves away to spread hateful messages on the internet then that is the sort of person they'll attract. In my experience angry people don't get on well with anyone but other angry people REALLY rile them up. Eventually the people on 4chan who enjoyed the anarchic state the site is constantly in but aren't comfortable with personally attacking people will be forced out or become targets themselves.
You'd be surprised. I've met plenty of cool people on 4chan, mostly on the smaller or lesser known boards, but /vg/ as well.

I've gotten a great guild in Star Trek Online thanks to /vg/ I would not have gotten anywhere else.
 

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Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Isn't that kind of indicative of the problem?
 

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You'd be surprised. I've met plenty of cool people on 4chan, mostly on the smaller or lesser known boards, but /vg/ as well.

I've gotten a great guild in Star Trek Online thanks to /vg/ I would not have gotten anywhere else.
My point wasn't that ALL of 4chan is bad, it was that it's reputation will attract bad people which will likely lead to those cool people being forced out or just having to go elsewhere. Maybe they'll find somewhere else as "anything goes" as 4chan and start again (although that runs the risk of the cycle starting over) or maybe people like that will just end up becoming massively disillusioned with internet forums in which case everyone's losing out.
 

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Don Incognito said:
Thorn14 said:
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Isn't that kind of indicative of the problem?
4chan uses that word for every person. Good or bad. A person might go and say "Yeah I'm a drawfag on 4chan" and mean absolutely zero offense. Its just part of the culture. Don't like it, don't go.

Battenberg said:
Thorn14 said:
You'd be surprised. I've met plenty of cool people on 4chan, mostly on the smaller or lesser known boards, but /vg/ as well.

I've gotten a great guild in Star Trek Online thanks to /vg/ I would not have gotten anywhere else.
My point wasn't that ALL of 4chan is bad, it was that it's reputation will attract bad people which will likely lead to those cool people being forced out or just having to go elsewhere. Maybe they'll find somewhere else as "anything goes" as 4chan and start again (although that runs the risk of the cycle starting over) or maybe people like that will just end up becoming massively disillusioned with internet forums in which case everyone's losing out.
Which is why 4chan would rather be left alone above everything else. Anon at 4chan hate it when it gets attention because it gets a bunch of people who need to lurk moar.
 

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Thorn14 said:
Don Incognito said:
Thorn14 said:
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Isn't that kind of indicative of the problem?
4chan uses that word for every person. Good or bad. A person might go and say "Yeah I'm a drawfag on 4chan" and mean absolutely zero offense. Its just part of the culture. Don't like it, don't go.
Okay, I won't. But, as I said, that is indicative of the problem 4chan has with the culture at-large.
 

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Don Incognito said:
Thorn14 said:
Don Incognito said:
Thorn14 said:
Not once has 4chan ever gave a shit about its "reputation" from outsiders. In fact, they like it being a bad rep because it makes less "normalfags" wander in.
Isn't that kind of indicative of the problem?
4chan uses that word for every person. Good or bad. A person might go and say "Yeah I'm a drawfag on 4chan" and mean absolutely zero offense. Its just part of the culture. Don't like it, don't go.
Okay, I won't. But, as I said, that is indicative of the problem 4chan has with the culture at-large.
4chan actually has a pretty good diverse amount of boards and depending on the board you visit there's completely different cultures, almost like changing a site (They also have a pretty wide variety of attendees).

Frankly out of most of the sites I visited, they have the most diversity of thought and hobbies(which is a type of diversity which should be more cherished). The content can vary on quality and sometimes you get stuff from the level of storm front (which is pretty bad, don't get me wrong anonymity can let human beings act in a terrible manner), but sometimes you get something well made, original and interesting far beyond the pseudo art sites I've visited. The fact that people don't have to constantly defend their past posts means that there's sometimes less line drawing and less obsession on appearance. That has it's downsides, but on the other hand there are less people who are obsessed with social stature, like in facebook, tumblr, twitter and other sites with similar features for "following" or "liking".

I didn't stay for long, but it is or at least it was an interesting concept for a site. It can be very crass such as the way everyone is referred to as a fag, but at this point on you're called a fagfag if you're a homosexual. It's almost just a qualifier for everyone, so it's more of a question of taste. The way sites any site is generalized is pretty sad. It's going back to the roots of tribalism.

And that's the end for my first rambling nonsensical lesson on Internet Anthropology 101. Maybe I should visit Twitter, Tumblr, Something Awful or any of these forums and see the kind of users each site breeds.
 

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I like how you adress it as a hivemind and a monothil despite it not being either of the two.
It just adds to the ironic humour i guess when the uhm..."arguments" being "adressed" are the smallest and of course most offensive strawman shouting which represent the vocal minority of the entire debate.

I suppose adressing the legitimate critique and debate that reasonable people want to have about these topics are not worthy to try and discredit because i guess theyre just too damn valid.
 

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4chan: WE ARE LEGION/NAKED PICTURES OF EMMA WATSON/OH NO NOT THIS AGAIN/GAMES JOURNALISM/FAGFAGFAG

Me: Yeah. . .about that. So, I saw an article on the business insider this morning, and well, I don't think it paints you in a very good light. Dare I say it, it makes you look like deplorable douches. Now I understand that not all the heads speak for each other, in-fact that as a community there is a wide range of both good and bad people (like most communities) but do you think you could deal with that head that keeps being such a sexist asshole all the time? I'll just post the link down here:
Two can play at this game:

Dakkagor: GRRRR 4CHAN! WHY YOU HATING THE WOMENZ!? LEAVE EMMA WATSON ALONE!!

4chan: Actually, the Emma Watson nude leaks were revealed to be hoax. 4chan had nothing to do with them. In fact, the whole purpose of the hoax was an attempt to frame 4chan by militant feminists and to start a movement calling for the site to be banned in yet another example of SJW moral arbiters deciding what is best for the public. In doing so, showing a complete disregard for Emma Watson, 4chan users or anyone who thinks using deception and lies to push an agenda is inherently wrong.
Something similar happened with GamerGate when codes for Super Smash Brothers were being awarded to people who made fabricated tweets attacking anti-GG personalities on twitter in order to apparently expose the "true nature" of Gamergate supporters, once again the truth was discarded in order to forward a biased narrative.

Note: I don't visit or have any particular love for 4chan but I'm sympathetic when ignorant people like Dakkagor feel the need to attack them without the slightest clue what they're talking about.
 

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In fact, the whole purpose of the hoax was an attempt to frame 4chan by militant feminists and to start a movement calling for the site to be banned in yet another example of SJW moral arbiters deciding what is best for the public.
Except, you know, that was fake, too. The group supposedly responsible wasn't, you know...real.

So, when you complain about ignorant people, is it really the ignorance you have issue with?
 

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Dear Escapist -
Maybe you should stop going to the "containment boards" like /b/ and /v/ or the hotbed that is /pol/. I'm sure if I decided to go trudging through the Religion and Politics forums here I'd find some pretty eye-raising stuff too, even with the whole profile system in place here. Or hell, I can just go over to to that 300+ page thread right here in the Off-topic section. And how long did those "Quinnspiracy" and Sarkessian threads last both in Gaming and Off-topic? Of course, I have the sensibility not to trot out those as legitimate examples of the mindset of the entirety of the Escapist Userbase (not to mention that even then this thread and me making a similar one directed to the Escapist wouldn't be the same due to how anonymity affects how people act on 4chan's various boards). Most of us on any of the other boards don't tend to give 2 shits about Gamergate so how about you take the straw back to the barn. People are more likely to take you seriously when you aren't trying to act like beating up a scarecrow is a sign of how smart you are.

Sincerely
A fa/tg/uy who stopped caring about this whole mess several weeks ago