Hindus Criticize Smite For "Trivializing" Their Religion

[verdant monkai]

Now lets see if the devs have the balls to make Jesus a playable character.

I'd play that... just sayin.

 

[MammothBlade]

Spoiler: Playable Jesus

Make it happen Hi-Rez.

Oh GOD yes.

I wonder what the Hindu commentators from this particular group would think of many Hindu gods' portrayals in the Shin Megami Tensei series? They're fairly true to the mythology and never really flaunted, but at the same time it is something like reducing their gods to stats and numbers, if you really choose to think of it as such.

Exactly. And considering Messiah, Lucifer, or a Shinto deity are often the most powerful of the lot, I don't see anyone complaining about comparing the power levels of religious deities. Maybe it's that such games are just relatively obscure.

 

[GangstaPony]

As an incredibly devout Hindu who goes to temple every week and is extremely religious, I would just like to say...

...when and where do I sign up for the beta?

Seriously, though I am a Hindu but have nothing but excitement for this as Hindu gods are really awesome but under-represented in western fiction. Not to mention that most of Bollywood/Indian Directors are mostly a bunch of idiots who can't tell a good tale to save their lives so we can't count on them. Also, Mr. Rajan Zed is being bit of a hypocrite where he tries to offer his services for advice and research, wants to see more Hindu stuff in fiction (see Asura's Wrath) but on the other hand criticize company's when they try to do so.

Conversely, if they are going to use Kali, then use KALI --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali
She's not the goddess of death (LXG) or some crazy demon (Indiana Jones). She's supposed to be the violent, super saiyan form (I am not joking) of Durga who has Knight Templar and mother like tendencies and was responsible for defeating The Devil. Yes we had one. And they killed him. Hindu gods take initiative yo. Use gods but use the REAL versions. Thor =/= Jesus.

The design is pretty accurate but lose the bikini look and give her more of a loin cloth, when in doubt ADD MORE SKULLS. Her skin is supposed to be ebony though. Hence, Kali.

 

[Syzygy23]

Saw this coming a mile away. Did think it was a bit odd for Hi Rez to include Hinduism along with dead religion's gods. Clearly, the only way to peacefully resolve this is to include Jesus as a hero.

No, they can't put Jesus in the game, he would be the biggest fucking overpowered mary sue. C'mon, he can battle-rez, duplicate anything he touches, and when shit hits the fan his dad is God, an even BIGGER mary sue than he is.

Yeah, he can battle rez.. 2 days later. Not much of an issue there. Judeo-Christian god would however be overpowered, the whole 'Omni-ALL THE THINGS' thing he has going on, though he didn't really do anything in the new testament, beyond the whole "good luck with that crucifixion bro" chat he had with Jesus. And duplicate everything he touches, really? Have you seen what those other gods can do?

Well, technically the in the New Testament Jesus/God were one and the same, so I guess God was here all along? Or something, I was never too clear on it. Kind of a Planet of the Apes Statue of Liberty moment now that I think about it.

 

[Mau95]

Saw this coming a mile away. Did think it was a bit odd for Hi Rez to include Hinduism along with dead religion's gods. Clearly, the only way to peacefully resolve this is to include Jesus as a hero.

I'm seriously hoping for a "magical kung-fu action Jesus" as He is traditionally referred to.

"no dice" -> captcha says no

 

[Mau95]

Nobody cares unless youre some asshole christian or useless muslim. You know, you belong to the most boring and violent of religions ever concieved

But it was Hindus complaining. Not all religious people are assholes or useless you know. And you're being pretty hipster, hating Islam and Christianity for being mainstream.

"sloane ranger"

 

[RN7]

A cross-bearing support tank Jesus would make me spend money on this game. Not only would that be a cool hero/champion/god to play, but it would piss off so many idiots it would be glorious.

 

[Khazoth]

Now lets see if the devs have the balls to make Jesus a playable character.

I was wondering this. They seem to be trying to avoid the giant elephant in the room.

How is that the elephant?


My opinion? Remove the Hindu gods, or add Mohammad. (The real elephant in the room)

You pick, but its either alright to make fun of everyone or no one, no picking and choosing.

 

[Mau95]

All these gaming studious being hip and gritty to make a controversy by insulting a group that won't hit back becomes somewhat tiresome. I would praise them if them made Mohamed a player character but of course that means they might have to risk their life. Like all playground bullies they can dish it out, but run away from anything that they stand a real risk with.

Why would you praise someone for maing a muhhamed character?

Currently they offending other peoples religions deliberately to create controversy to get themselves free advertising. They are doing that at no risk to themselves, but if they use Mohamed they would be putting their lives in danger. They could then make a legitimate case that its about freedom of expression, but as it they are just making a cheap buck out of insulting someone who won't punch back.

Dont you think your being a bit extreme here? Muslims dont kill people for drawing muhhamed, on the whole at least, no more than christians kill homosexuals. Considering he has no image and is purely a religious character I cant see a reaosn to draw him other than to piss off muslims, you can defend it with free speech but it wouldnt make you less of a scumbag for deliberatively being shocking and offensive which is also pretty cowardly and childish.

Tell that to Salman Rushdie who spent years of his life under police guard after writing the satanic verses. The Iranian government has passed a death sentence on him and is still offering a bounty on his death, for the crime of writing a book with Mohamed in it. When did the last Christian suicide bomber blow themselves up on the London tube killing 57 people or when did the last Hindu crash a plane into buildings killing 4000. If you wont talk about homosexuals, how about Lutfur Rahman in Mayor of Tower Hamlets in London. His supporters put posters declaring that Tower Hamlets was a gay free zone and created an intimidatory atmosphere to such an extent that a gay couple, that I work with, moved half way across London to feel safe. Militant Islam is real and they do kill people.

Why is it ok to piss off Hindus, Buddhists and Christians but not Muslims? Hi Res are using images from their religions without fear of reprisal. Hi Res are playground bullies picking on reglions that wont fight back but running away from any risk to themselves. If they used Mohamed as well as the other religions they would be taking a brave stand for freedom of expression but as it they are just taking cheap shots at those that wont fight back.

Dude, the book was called "The Satanic Verses". Of course people are going to get at least a little bit suspicious. And we should now be allowed to make fun of the elderly, the young, the handicapped, the religious, those with a political opinion, the ugly, the fat, the addicted, etc. because either it's all ok or nothing is right?

 

[Richardplex]

Now lets see if the devs have the balls to make Jesus a playable character.

I was wondering this. They seem to be trying to avoid the giant elephant in the room.

How is that the elephant?


My opinion? Remove the Hindu gods, or add Mohammad. (The real elephant in the room)

You pick, but its either alright to make fun of everyone or no one, no picking and choosing.

Mohammed isn't a god, he is only a prophet. All the brewhaha relating to him should apply to the other prophets I believe, similar to how all their names should be suffixed with pbuh (peace be upon him).

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

Now lets see if the devs have the balls to make Jesus a playable character.

I was wondering this. They seem to be trying to avoid the giant elephant in the room.

Let's be honest, Judeo-Christian mythology is one of the most poorly written and boring of them all. They have 2 "big" characters and they both kinda suck for this kind of stuff. God would have to be overpowered, so, no fun, and Jesus? What would his power be? "Being nailed to wood"? "Revives after 3 days"? "Turns water to wine"?

"Watch out guys, Jesus on the bot lane! don't push too hard or he might CC himself to a cross!".

The characters are just... boring and bland. They were written to be "perfect", not to be interesting. They don't lend themselves to this kind of stuff like, say, Thor, or Shiva, or Fenrir.

I dunno, I'm no expert on MOBAs but I imagine Jesus providing buffs for allies when he's damaged, unless he's stunned in some way.

Truely, he can die for your sins.

This story/thread makes me realize how great a religious deity fighting game could be. Like just a straight up side view 1 on 1 fighter.
Also they could use the gory finishers from Mortal Kombat!
Yay sacrilege!

http://www.molleindustria.org/faith-fighter/

There ya go! Knock yourself out. =)

 

[gewata]

I would have thought the issue with using Jehovah/God/Allah is that having an omniscient, omnipotent deity as a playable character in a MOBA might be a little bit OP. Just sayin'.

Some of the angels/saints might be pretty cool, but I think, as people have said, that other, non ambrahamic religions just have cooler looking gods. Compare the bearded invisible sky dude to, say Ganesha, with his 6 arms and an elephant's head, or Huitzilopochtli, who was half hummingbird and made the moon out of his sister's head so that his mother would be able to see her every night and not be sad, and tell me which one you would rather play as.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

I'm going to guess this man doesn't think quite like most Hindu people, whose opinions likely range from not caring to being intrigued to some extent.

 

[GloatingSwine]

When did the last Christian suicide bomber blow themselves up on the London tube killing 57 people

The IRA preferred car bombs, by the way.

There have been far more terrorist attacks by Christians in the UK than by any other religion. (And don't try to weasel out of it, the Troubles have always been sectarian in nature).

 

[GloatingSwine]

I would have thought the issue with using Jehovah/God/Allah is that having an omniscient, omnipotent deity as a playable character in a MOBA might be a little bit OP. Just sayin'.

Just give the other side iron chariots. Balance restored

 

[Clearing the Eye]

As too burden off proof, hmm lets see

https://www.google.com/search?q=moscow+airport+bomb+chechen

https://www.google.com/search?q=mumbai+bomb+2011

https://www.google.com/search?q=mumbai+bomb+2008

Pfft. That's nothing on the terrorist attacks performed by the Christian U.S. For example, since 2003, the United States lead coalition has been responsible for 14,787 civilian deaths and a total of about 110,000 deaths in Iraq alone.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

If you want to talk about U.S. citizens being killed, in the last three years the average number of murders in the United States has been about 15,000. The average number of rapes, about 87,000. Total violent crime numbers reach an average of around 1,300,000.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl01.xls
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat8.htm#Murders

So if you want to fear and demonize anyone, it should probably be them, lol.

 

[oddball250]

Saw this coming a mile away. Did think it was a bit odd for Hi Rez to include Hinduism along with dead religion's gods. Clearly, the only way to peacefully resolve this is to include Jesus as a hero.

Jesus wasnt a god he was a demi-god and therefore doesn't qualify

 

[direkiller]

Oh boo fucking hoo. Get over it, your religion isn't special.

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I bet the Christians would throw a much larger shitfit if Jesus was on the roster.

And the Muslims.. they can't take a joke at all.

All this is evidence that Hindus are more comfortable and confident with their religions. The rest is evidence that Muslims and Christians know, in their heart of hearts, the falseness of their religious beliefs. Thus they cannot tolerate criticism.

Actually, I should qualify this somewhat, so bear with me.

The inclusion of a religious figure in a video game probably has something to do with that figure's appeal. Truthfully, Jesus is boring. Jesus isn't a warrior or some dark magician akin to Odin; Jesus is just a hippy frequently depicted with long hair and gentile appearance. The appearance of Mohammed is even more nebulous, with depictions of him being strictly taboo. But, again, he was no warrior; and not being a warrior means not being a compelling character for a video game. By contrast, the whole Nordic Pantheon is extremely colorful and interesting, an easy set of themes to include in some form of media.

And even many Christians balk at the idea of a Jesus in video-games, not because they find the illustrations of their religious figure offensive, but actually because they see it as religious pandering, and thus below their pride.

Mohammed was very much a warrior he spent about 10 years of his life at war
but he was a prophet not a god