Hindus Upset Over Asura's Wrath

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Azure-Supernova

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I appreciate what the guy's saying, but it's Asura's Wrath, has this guy seen it? This game's fucking insane, it doesn't accurately portray anything. I'm pretty sure accurate, realistic portrayal is the opposite of what Asura's Wrath was going for.
 

punipunipyo

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they need to go play "faith fighter" (it's like religious smash bro) where up on winning, god says "Worship ME!"
 

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DailonCmann said:
When will they learn? Here in America, it's okay for major media outlets to make fun of any religion*.

*except Christianity.
Exactly. This routine generalization of religious faiths in headlines is getting out of hand. Even when its not intentionally alienating, just see how people are responding to such stories. Notice how when it's Christians who look bad, its always "Christian fundamentalists"? When other faiths are involved, why not use "Hindu fundamentalists" or "Islamic extremists"?
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
I appreciate what the guy's saying, but it's Asura's Wrath, has this guy seen it? This game's fucking insane, it doesn't accurately portray anything. I'm pretty sure accurate, realistic portrayal is the opposite of what Asura's Wrath was going for.
pretty sure 'realistic' .... anything, was stuffed in a trash bag, beaten with sticks and toss out the 50th floor window. it it looks AWESOME for it

OT: my though? good sir, in face face of you missing the point entirely, i shall partake in a beef product in your honor!

people take religion to seriously as is, last place i wanna see an accurate depiction of it is in a game
 

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Hal10k said:
Okay. Asura's Wrath has us covered on Hinduism. Games like Dante's Inferno and Darksiders incorporate elements from Christianity. Prince of Persia takes at least a few superficial elements from Islam. Games have been borrowing from the ideas of Buddhist monks & Tao philosophy for years. Pokemon is essentially Shinto, and every robots-fighting-humanity story borrows from the Jewish folktale of the Rabbi's golem.

We need a game based off of Scientology if we want to be thorough on this.
Dead Space already has that covered.
 

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I haven't played the game but as far as I can see this is pretty standard treatment for religions and mythologies in the games industry. You look at a religion/mythology, take note of the cool shit you find and then add your own take on it.

As I'm not that bothered about religion, this is about as far as I like them to go with religion as a theme. It'll take a games design genius to figure out how to make the peaceful image most religions project work well in a game.
 

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Arif_Sohaib said:
Hal10k said:
Okay. Asura's Wrath has us covered on Hinduism. Games like Dante's Inferno and Darksiders incorporate elements from Christianity. Prince of Persia takes at least a few superficial elements from Islam. Games have been borrowing from the ideas of Buddhist monks & Tao philosophy for years. Pokemon is essentially Shinto, and every robots-fighting-humanity story borrows from the Jewish folktale of the Rabbi's golem.

We need a game based off of Scientology if we want to be thorough on this.
Prince of Persia does not have any elements of Islam, the Forgotten Sands and the Solomon Army plot is not related to Islam(the Quranic version of Prophet Solomon is different). It has elements of 1001 Nights/Arabian Nights and some of those,(I think mainly Sindbad and Ali Baba) had some Islamic morals and the last(proper) game had the moral "turn the other cheek" when facing the last boss.
I know; there are very few games with overtly Islamic themes that are very widely known. It was the closest I could think of for the sake of the list.
 

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Formica Archonis said:
Hal10k said:
We need a game based off of Scientology if we want to be thorough on this.
Dead Space?
The Saints Row series also has the Church of Philositology. Not to mention the Hubologists in Fallout 2.
 

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Aeriath said:
I haven't played the game but as far as I can see this is pretty standard treatment for religions and mythologies in the games industry. You look at a religion/mythology, take note of the cool shit you find and then add your own take on it.

As I'm not that bothered about religion, this is about as far as I like them to go with religion as a theme. It'll take a games design genius to figure out how to make the peaceful image most religions project work well in a game.
From his view got butchering symoblic and comic relationship mean of thought being. It fun insane but most america would getting mind how hinduism can have 305 million gods and at same no gods. That call The Sankhya system. The Goal in hinduism is break the attachment to breaking the maya come from ignorance, so they true nature of everthing, Once they do this they become one with the Brahman, that Brahman is the eternal, infinite,unkowable, sexless timless totally umpersonal true/ everthing and nothing.
 

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TBH i don't see how its any diffident then if a cristan got upset over assassins creed. It takes elements from your region it is not putting your religion in a bad light or trivialization it in any way shape or form.
If anything like Sephiroth did it will simply get a few people to educate themselves.
 

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Did people read the article? The guy was only mildly complaining. It's no better than the griping the people in this very website do.
 
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Does their faith deserve respect? Hell no.

Do they deserve being represented as they are rather than a vague collection of bullshit? Hell yes.

Should they care? Hell no.

Does it matter? Hell no.
 

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Use_Imagination_here said:
Does their faith deserve respect? Hell no.

Do they deserve being represented as they are rather than a vague collection of bullshit? Hell yes.

Should they care? Hell no.

Does it matter? Hell no.
That such Ignorant answer I need to cry.
 

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I say to you good sir Zed. You should be commended for your ability to not comdemn the masses as damned because you are offended. However, popular culture all over the world punishes those who restrict. All that is sacred to anyone is trampled on for the sake of art, with both positive and negative results. Look at any anime, any hollywood movie, every single game ever made about the middle ages, its all interpretations of different viewpoints influenced by creativity and fueled by the desire to create uniqueness. At the same time, no one involved is claiming any kind of direct interpretations. I think this is a non-issue. As a troll would say, "go QQ some more, ya noob."
 

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Eric the Orange said:
Azuaron said:
Eric the Orange said:
I'm not particularly religious, so I always find it odd that some people who are get so easily offended about it. By this I mean that there are things that I hold in high regard but I don't really care if other people dislike them or disrespect them. But it seems that people are especially touchy when it come to matters of belief.
So you don't care if, for instance, people disbelieve evolution and use public funds to open young Earth creationist museums?
Yeah I would dislike that but for a very specific reason. You said public funds, meaning that it's being paid for by tax dollars. And I'm against pretty much anything that's not related to the direct running of the government being paid for by tax dollars, no matter what it is. My take is that if you want to get your research, art exhibit, ect. funded you look some where else. It doesn't matter if I agree with it or not. But that's getting off on a tangent.

In this case someone made a game that was funded by a corporation. So say if this game was about the "young Earth creationist" stuff, no it would not bother me. Or if someone made that museum with donations or investors would not bug me either.
100% on point. You vs. world: 1/0
 

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oldtaku said:
'the game trivializes the symbols and concepts of the Hindu religion.'

The game takes the symbols and concepts of the Hindu religion and makes them awesome.
While I think they, like all mythology, were already awesome, I have to agree with this.

The fact that the game has been described as "Dragon Ball Z X God of War" can't do anything BUT make anything the game is vaguely related to more awesome.
 

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Yeesh, whatever. They say you can't mishandle any faith no matter how big or how small. Well no one really complains about Norse Mythology being handled inaccurately in, say, the Marvel Comics Universe, and if you think that a Religion is any more significant or deserving of respect than a mythology, then you've gone wrong somewhere.

Does no one else find this hilarious? "They aren't taking our multiple invisible omnipresent all powerful magical deities SERIOUSLY ENOUGH!"

Religion is one of those things that is really funny to look at when you take a step back for a second.
 

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8-Bit_Jack said:
man's a idiot.
He's getting bent out of shape because his religion isn't being played out word for word in the game? how ridiculous can you be?
No, he's not. That's stupid hyperbole caused by a lack of journalistic integrity and a stupid author who put hype and shock value over the truth.

The issue here is that he's simply requesting that game developers put thought into the Hindu imagery and mythology they use, instead of using Faux Symbolism.

Imagine a game based with Jewish Imagery, where the Prophet Moses must lead the rebellion of Flaming Chariot-of-iron riding jews against the Pharaoh Elijiah's Golem Army, where he rules from atop the Tower of Babel - Furthermore, they enjoy eating pork, but can't eat beef.

Bad game and story? Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly screws up the source material enough to make anyone who knows about the religion ask the developer what the hell they're doing.