Hit the *****: A Domestic Violence Videogame

[Disaster Button]

This is bad enough but I can't believe someone would be stupid enough to think this is sexualizing violence. Retard.

The gender-reversed version is, of course, "Discriminate and breed hatred against men worldwide while skewing statistics to make you look like the victim"

It's a stealth-based RPG.

I love all of you poor, downtrodden, oppressed white men who decry the way the world treats you. It must suck balls to possess such a disproportionate percentage of the world's wealth and CEO/World Leader seats.

You poor thing.

Come here, mama will hold you.

Wow did you really just say that? Oh man.

Clearly men are always the culprits and never the victims huh because we have all the wealth, that obviously means we too can't be abused by women or be treated like crap by the media and be made to take it because "men are never victims."

If you really believe its only women who have it tough you should just get out of my forum.

 

[lvl9000_woot]

Man, I can't wait for the Wii version!

/sarcasm

..will require MotionPlus to be truly authentic

Either that or a plastic, arm-shapped peripheral of somesort.

 

[londelen]

The gender-reversed version is, of course, "Discriminate and breed hatred against men worldwide while skewing statistics to make you look like the victim"

It's a stealth-based RPG.

I love all of you poor, downtrodden, oppressed white men who decry the way the world treats you. It must suck balls to possess such a disproportionate percentage of the world's wealth and CEO/World Leader seats.

You poor thing.

Come here, mama will hold you.

How's that ignorance working out for you?

 

[funguy2121]

Wow did you really just say that? Oh man.

Clearly men are always the culprits and never the victims huh because we have all the wealth, that obviously means we too can't be abused by women or be treated like crap by the media and be made to take it because "men are never victims."

If you really believe its only women who have it tough you should just get out of my forum.

Except that it's not your forum, DisasterButton. Relax. I never said men were the victims. Anyone who isn't desperately seeking sympathy shouldn't use the term "victim" reflexively, anyway. As a man who was assaulted several times by my ex-girlfriend, I am well aware that sometimes domestic violence is female-on-male. That, however, is a much, much smaller number than the reverse. No one is "always the culprit."

That was a comment on the recent wave of men whom I've heard bitching about their lot in life, based upon their gender. The sort of guy who claims that women are conspiring globally to inspire reverse misogyny. We're a generation of men by and large raised by women, brother, and whether or not your pappy was present if you continue in this direction you're in danger of becoming one.

Even though I've been attacked (for real, like the leave-a-mark kind), I would never say I've been "abused" or "victimized." I'd say "that crazy sociopath put me through some real shit, and now it's time for me to pick up the pieces."

I also don't think the media treats anyone different. They all treat us "like crap," in that they all try to package us into marketable commodities. If men are objectified and sterotyped by "the media," then women certainly are.

And to the gentleman who thinks this is a "politicized" issue, and that domestic abuse never really happens all that often, I would only ask if ignorance truly is bliss.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Seems like an incredible stupid and boring thing to do

 

[CloggedDonkey]

this is about as good an idea as an anti drug camp giving out a lot of free drugs. I get the idea, my father used to smoke cigarettes a lot, but he smoked so much he stopped liking it and only smokes one or two a day.

 

[Disaster Button]

Wow did you really just say that? Oh man.

Clearly men are always the culprits and never the victims huh because we have all the wealth, that obviously means we too can't be abused by women or be treated like crap by the media and be made to take it because "men are never victims."

If you really believe its only women who have it tough you should just get out of my forum.

Except that it's not your forum, DisasterButton. Relax. I never said men were the victims. Anyone who isn't desperately seeking sympathy shouldn't use the term "victim" reflexively, anyway. As a man who was assaulted several times by my ex-girlfriend, I am well aware that sometimes domestic violence is female-on-male. That, however, is a much, much smaller number than the reverse. No one is "always the culprit."

That was a comment on the recent wave of men whom I've heard bitching about their lot in life, based upon their gender. The sort of guy who claims that women are conspiring globally to inspire reverse misogyny. We're a generation of men by and large raised by women, brother, and whether or not your pappy was present if you continue in this direction you're in danger of becoming one.

Even though I've been attacked (for real, like the leave-a-mark kind), I would never say I've been "abused" or "victimized." I'd say "that crazy sociopath put me through some real shit, and now it's time for me to pick up the pieces."

I also don't think the media treats anyone different. They all treat us "like crap," in that they all try to package us into marketable commodities. If men are objectified and sterotyped by "the media," then women certainly are.

And to the gentleman who thinks this is a "politicized" issue, and that domestic abuse never really happens all that often, I would only ask if ignorance truly is bliss.

Thank God. I thought you were a nutjob who only thought women are abused and it's always the man's fault. Good to see another example of judging a book by its cover is wrong.

Oh and I like to pretend these are my forums, sure they might let others write on them but at the end of the day I know the Forums only love me, they come home after a logn days work and I make popcorn and we watch horror movies by firelight snuggling under a blanket, then..

*ahem* Well I wouldn't want to kiss and tell.

i can't believe i did that, sorry, i get carried away

 

[Xanadu84]

I'm glad there trying. Certainly, they are trying to put a meaning to there game, to a degree which I will cautiously call art, but not all art is good art. It sounds like it comes across as heavy handed, preachy, and ineffective. Sounds like it was created by people with good intentions, but 0 skill at game design.

I'm going to think of some stuff for a while, but I'm wondering if we can put our money where out mouths are. Can we here give an outline for game mechanics for a game in this style (Viewing domestic violence from a 1st hand perspective) that would be powerful and effective, as opposed to counter-productive? Please no sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested in if this is possible.

 

[Noone From Nowhere]

I don't see this being any more effective at curbing Domestic Violence than punishing/rewarding a player with Evil points in a Fable game for beating one's spouse (either gender)or discouraging random assaults by giving police heat for stomping an innocent old lady into paste amidst a crowd in Grand Theft Auto 4.

Games can be a teaching tool, alright, but for things such as proceedure and factoids, not Negative Reinforcement. The only consequece is that one loses the game or gets insulted by the makers. Have they ever seen the treatment that audiences take from the average internet Flash game or Zero Punctuation? They eat that stuff up! They also tend to enjoy brutal challenges in said games.

Maybe many of the gamers out there are masochists? Wouldn't this encourage the (simulated)outward appearance of sadism for the reward of chastisement?

 

[funguy2121]

My mother experienced domestic violence, from a man who beat her severely after slipping her acid. I have also experienced it. Two women that I've dated have experienced it. A very close friend of mine beat his first girlfriend twice. I know homosexuals, both men and women, who have experienced it.

It's a very special kind of humiliating to be a guy who goes through this. The fact remains, it can happen to anyone. But by and large, it happens to women. Three different women that went to high school with me were in abusive relationships that escalated until their respective boyfriends killed them.

It's a valid point that the game did succeed in its goal of getting people talking. I just don't get the pussy-gangsta meter. It makes it seem like an experiment, like the one performed at a university in the 60's where the students thought they were administering electric shock on their "victims" and every single one turned the juice all the way up, in spite of the victims' pleas to stop. If anybody can recall the name of those experiments, please hook a brother up.

 

[Kriptonite]

I thought the title was just a lure of sorts to get people to check out the thread. Then thought the game was a joke. This is horrible...

 

[Aitruis]

That's.....well, good idea, bad execution....

 

[Stein Inge]

The danish have always been a bit weird when it comes to dealing with issues like this.
There was a movie that came out a few years back called "Terkel i knipe" (Directly translated it means "Terkel in Trouble") Where they deal with themes like bullying (One girl is bullied so bad she jumps out a window and fall to her death with a horrific "splat" whereupon one of her teachers replies "at least the fat cow didn´t land on someone") and violent relatives (Terkels uncle beats one of the schools bullies to a bloody pulp, bites his ear off and then invites Terkel to come inside and beat the crap out of his father) only to name a few. At this point I feel that I should mention that the movie is computer animated á la Pixar and had a fairly mild age limit. (11 year olds had no problem getting in).
I guess what I´m trying to say here is that the Danish have very few limits (read: none at all) when it comes to this sort of thing and as a result ANYTHING is fair game (kind of like South Park).
For another example, check out the reactions to Lars Von Triers latest movie "Antichrist"...

So I´m not that surprised that the danes made something like this.... I still think they missed the mark on this one though,

BTW: "Terkel in trouble" is one of the funniest movies I have ever seen... CHECK IT OUT

Wow Denmark really is a crazy place. I am so vacationing there first chance I get. Also you wouldn't happen to have a link to this Terkel movie it sounds badass. Didn't this Lars guy also make some movie about Islam that was like taken or removed or something? It's available on Wikileaks for download but I can't remember the name of it. Or was that a politician who did it?

I think you might be tinking of the charicatures (did I spell that right?) of the prophet Mohammed... These were published in a danish newspaper and sparked worldwide protest from the muslim community. Lars Von Trier had nothing to do with this, but you might have seen orheard about "Breaking the Waves" and "Dancer in the dark" (the latter is starring Bjørk or Bjork to you).
I don´t know if "Terkel" was released outside of scandinavia but check out CDON.com and it will probably be for sale there as I think it will be difficult to find it as a download.

You should go to Denmark if you get the chance! The danish are really open and friendly and you will more than likely have a great time!

 

[whycantibelinus]

I think they need to re-release it with Havoc physics and destructable terrain.

Lol! Kudos on the comedy man.

This game is ridiculous in idea and in execution.

 

[funguy2121]

I'm glad there trying. Certainly, they are trying to put a meaning to there game, to a degree which I will cautiously call art, but not all art is good art. It sounds like it comes across as heavy handed, preachy, and ineffective. Sounds like it was created by people with good intentions, but 0 skill at game design.

I'm going to think of some stuff for a while, but I'm wondering if we can put our money where out mouths are. Can we here give an outline for game mechanics for a game in this style (Viewing domestic violence from a 1st hand perspective) that would be powerful and effective, as opposed to counter-productive? Please no sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested in if this is possible.

No. It's not the right medium, because you cannot teach morality. You can INSTILL morality, mainly by example, but you cannot teach it in a classroom or with a videogame.

 

[Xanadu84]

I'm glad there trying. Certainly, they are trying to put a meaning to there game, to a degree which I will cautiously call art, but not all art is good art. It sounds like it comes across as heavy handed, preachy, and ineffective. Sounds like it was created by people with good intentions, but 0 skill at game design.

I'm going to think of some stuff for a while, but I'm wondering if we can put our money where out mouths are. Can we here give an outline for game mechanics for a game in this style (Viewing domestic violence from a 1st hand perspective) that would be powerful and effective, as opposed to counter-productive? Please no sarcasm, I'm genuinely interested in if this is possible.

No. It's not the right medium, because you cannot teach morality. You can INSTILL morality, mainly by example, but you cannot teach it in a classroom or with a videogame.

I never said that it had to outright teach morality. I didn't even go as far as to say instill morality. I just asked for an idea of this sort which would be, "Powerful and effective". Certainly a game can express a viewpoint on domestic violence which is powerful and effective?

 

[Littlee300]

I seen many flash games where you beat up Britney spears. Pretty messed up that your goal is to be "gangsta'" though. But still it will sell i bet.

 

[Aesir23]

I know it's supposed to teach about the evils of domestic abuse, but I still can't help but feel disgusted.

 

[ButanicXpandA]

Wow what an innovative idea.

 

[Enzeru92]

Well still not as bad as Japanese games (OH NO TENTACLE RAPE) but still that is freaking weird and wrong