Hitman Studio Apologizes For Nun Massacre

[senordesol]

I actually have two problems with this. First of all I think it is degrading to women and if it was supposed to be a parody, it did not come through because it seemed like it was all serious business. Secondly, I find it sacrilegious because having the sisters show up as nuns and take off their clothes to reveal stripper outfits upsets me as a christian. If they revealed that they were carrying appropriate clothing and weaponry for a fight, I wouldn't have as much problem. The sexy nun outfit, I believe, is an insult to my religion because nuns are some of the best human beings on this Earth and to show them as being sex fiends underneath it all shows a great disrespect for what they do. That is why I am angry people.

What do you have a problem with, exactly? Because bad guys (rather: gals) did a bad thing? You realize they were not actually nuns, right? That was just a disguise so they could walk around without drawing attention to the sheer amount of hardware they were packing.

The fact that you consider nuns on-the-whole good people is what makes the disguise effective. You wouldn't expect nuns to suddenly bust out with MP-7s. As a fellow Christian, I have to say I have no problem with this. The under-outfits were...interesting, but I could name several videogame characters who fight in similarly ungainly atire (Ivy, anyone?).

Honestly this whole thing just appears to be a tempest in a teapot. This time next month will literally anybody care? Honestly?

 

[ACman]

Why does it have to make sense? And since when are we given full back stories for events in trailers?


That aside, the beginning of the video shows a bus in the background, the "nuns on a bus" schtick is used quite a bit in movies as a means of getting across the Mexican border without much difficulty. Seeing that they are also in a desert, and that Mexico, according to cinema and games, is a safe haven for criminals like assassins, this does make sense.

Why are they dressing a sexy nuns?

Why do they then destroy any pretense of being disguised to by tearing off the habits to revel "sexy nun" bondage gear?

Again, this is pretty common in movies. But for practicality purposes if they didn't tear off the habits and they weren't wearing tight fitting cloths it's probable that the the very large weaponry they were concealing would get caught on the loose material causing all sorts of potential hazards. Of course, I don't believe this was the reason for their apparel, or even that anyone developing the sequence had thought of such.

What I do believe is that the girls brought an excessive amount of fire power to kill one man. It's overkill, plan and simple. Which leads me to the conclusion that not only do they they enjoy what they do but they are also sadists. They aren't trying to be the quiet, cold, professional type of assassin, they are the opposite, the over-the-top psychotic hit squad one only calls when they're desperate. So why are they dressed like that? Because they are having a good time, to add insult to injury, for shits and giggles.

What is an all female "hit team" doing in a Hitman game anyway? Going of the tone of the previous games I have trouble believing that these ladies exist in 42's world.

"Blystad explained that it's a combination of the game's natural extremism and the influence of film directors like Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez."

????????????

If you want to make a game influenced by Kill Bill -- GO MAKE THAT GAME. Don't take another series and then completely change it's aesthetic.

I've always thought of Hitman existing in a 'Bourne Identity', 'Le Samurai' or 'The Professional' style universe. The type that have personality and empathy free individuals who provide murder for money until something changes. How has Hitman ever been in anyway "Exploitation"?

It's been 6 years since the last Hitman. The terrible movie that was made left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. So maybe they felt like it was time to change things up a bit.

Or it could be more simple, they needed to make headlines, and so they did.

Personally I've always felt Hitman has had an exploitation film feel to it. I will say it seems to be taking on a more dominate role in Absolution. However I view this in the same way I view the GTA franchise; GTA at one point could have gone in a direction like Saints Row The Third or they could have gone in a more mature, realistic direction. Hitman could have gone two ways as well.

1) The Hitman (Game) universe has always made a level of plausible sense. Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad while totally *****-ass-cool is absolutely not plausible.

2) The nuns having been on a bus in no way adds to the plausibility of this scenario.

3) Why would it add to the plausibility of this scenario? What? Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad can afford the latest military hardware and bondage gear but can't get across the border? How about dressing as a regular fucking tourist and taking a plane? Wouldn't that be more sensible/less retarded?

4) While Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad may be common in many movies of a certain genre What is not common in movies is to completely abandon a series' defined tone... The possible exception is the new James Bond films. Regardless Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad does not fit in with the established tone of the Hitman games.

This is Luc Besson, not Robert Rodriguez.

This is The Usual Suspects, not Pulp Fiction.

This is Ronin, not Kill Bill.

This is The Limey, not Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

This is Get Carter (Michael Cain Version), Not The Italian Job (Michael Cain Version)

4) These ladies do not belong in the Hitman universe. Hitman has always treaded a line of plausibility but this stuffs it into a cocked hat and shits in it. Hitman is plausibly "real world". Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad is 70s-exploitation, pornography, fantasy-land,

5) I do not give a single miniscule shit about the existence of a Hitman Movie.

6) We already have a number of games where the motivational logic of the characters doesn't make a lick of sense. While I like Saint's Row games I also think they are retarded. In SRTT this is an endearing quality but SR is much closer to the tone of the original GTA games.

GTA has only recently poked it's head into "realism" and it's been much poorer for it. So why do you think that Hitman poking it's head into ridiculousness will be good?


7) And if you think that Hitman had an expoitation feel to it then I suggest that you look up what exploitation actually means.

Hitman is Noir.

(Original) Max Payne is Exploitation (Hilariously trying to be noir.)

 

[Blunderboy]

SNIP

What?
Firstly, stop spending so much money on something you clearly hate.
Secondly, I wear a suit pretty much everyday for work and I've never felt anywhere near as restricted as you seem to find your suit.
I'll admit that a t-shirt and jeans are a tad more comfortable but you're really exaggerating. That or you paid way too much for an ill fitting suit.

It was for my sisters wedding. I actually quite like it. Navy blue with violet and burgundy pin striping. Lavender shirt, purple tie, black cherry shoes.
It's pretty damn swanky.

And yes, some of it was exaggeration (I slipped my first time on carpet in the shoes. I can hold a grudge), but the point is, the claim that a suit is more feasible than spandex or latex in a fight. And if you compare the two, well, that's what you get. When was the last time you saw someone perform strenuous activity in a suit?

I rest my case.

 

[Two Angels]

Hitman is such a bad ass character! Can't wait to play this game!

 

[ElPatron]

In what part? Several highly trained women in "femdom" costumes were obviously considered powerful enough to take on 47.

I object to their description as highly trained. They sat there like idiots staring at the pretty fire without anyone watching their backs or even considering that 47 might not have been in the building. A set of actions that only a group of tyros would make.

Compared to Agent 47 everyone's training was piss poor.

Amateurs train until they get it right, professionals train until they get it wrong. Obviously they had a severe case of inflated egos.

Which is more believable in a fight?

Which kind of fight?

I can draw pretty quickly while wearing a suit. t-shirts make it almost impossible to conceal, hoodies sag like a mo-fo on the gun/holster.

 

[mindlesspuppet]

Why does it have to make sense? And since when are we given full back stories for events in trailers?


That aside, the beginning of the video shows a bus in the background, the "nuns on a bus" schtick is used quite a bit in movies as a means of getting across the Mexican border without much difficulty. Seeing that they are also in a desert, and that Mexico, according to cinema and games, is a safe haven for criminals like assassins, this does make sense.

Why are they dressing a sexy nuns?

Why do they then destroy any pretense of being disguised to by tearing off the habits to revel "sexy nun" bondage gear?

Again, this is pretty common in movies. But for practicality purposes if they didn't tear off the habits and they weren't wearing tight fitting cloths it's probable that the the very large weaponry they were concealing would get caught on the loose material causing all sorts of potential hazards. Of course, I don't believe this was the reason for their apparel, or even that anyone developing the sequence had thought of such.

What I do believe is that the girls brought an excessive amount of fire power to kill one man. It's overkill, plan and simple. Which leads me to the conclusion that not only do they they enjoy what they do but they are also sadists. They aren't trying to be the quiet, cold, professional type of assassin, they are the opposite, the over-the-top psychotic hit squad one only calls when they're desperate. So why are they dressed like that? Because they are having a good time, to add insult to injury, for shits and giggles.

What is an all female "hit team" doing in a Hitman game anyway? Going of the tone of the previous games I have trouble believing that these ladies exist in 42's world.

"Blystad explained that it's a combination of the game's natural extremism and the influence of film directors like Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez."

????????????

If you want to make a game influenced by Kill Bill -- GO MAKE THAT GAME. Don't take another series and then completely change it's aesthetic.

I've always thought of Hitman existing in a 'Bourne Identity', 'Le Samurai' or 'The Professional' style universe. The type that have personality and empathy free individuals who provide murder for money until something changes. How has Hitman ever been in anyway "Exploitation"?

It's been 6 years since the last Hitman. The terrible movie that was made left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. So maybe they felt like it was time to change things up a bit.

Or it could be more simple, they needed to make headlines, and so they did.

Personally I've always felt Hitman has had an exploitation film feel to it. I will say it seems to be taking on a more dominate role in Absolution. However I view this in the same way I view the GTA franchise; GTA at one point could have gone in a direction like Saints Row The Third or they could have gone in a more mature, realistic direction. Hitman could have gone two ways as well.

1) The Hitman (Game) universe has always made a level of plausible sense. Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad while totally *****-ass-cool is absolutely not plausible.

2) The nuns having been on a bus in no way adds to the plausibility of this scenario.

3) Why would it add to the plausibility of this scenario? What? Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad can afford the latest military hardware and bondage gear but can't get across the border? How about dressing as a regular fucking tourist and taking a plane? Wouldn't that be more sensible/less retarded?

4) While Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad may be common in many movies of a certain genre What is not common in movies is to completely abandon a series' defined tone... The possible exception is the new James Bond films. Regardless Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad does not fit in with the established tone of the Hitman games.

This is Luc Besson, not Robert Rodriguez.

This is The Usual Suspects, not Pulp Fiction.

This is Ronin, not Kill Bill.

This is The Limey, not Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

This is Get Carter (Michael Cain Version), Not The Italian Job (Michael Cain Version)

4) These ladies do not belong in the Hitman universe. Hitman has always treaded a line of plausibility but this stuffs it into a cocked hat and shits in it. Hitman is plausibly "real world". Sexy-Nun-Hit-Squad is 70s-exploitation, pornography, fantasy-land,

5) I do not give a single miniscule shit about the existence of a Hitman Movie.

6) We already have a number of games where the motivational logic of the characters doesn't make a lick of sense. While I like Saint's Row games I also think they are retarded. In SRTT this is an endearing quality but SR is much closer to the tone of the original GTA games.

GTA has only recently poked it's head into "realism" and it's been much poorer for it. So why do you think that Hitman poking it's head into ridiculousness will be good?


7) And if you think that Hitman had an expoitation feel to it then I suggest that you look up what exploitation actually means.

Hitman is Noir.

(Original) Max Payne is Exploitation (Hilariously trying to be noir.)

Welp, I replied to your post with opinions on the trailer and the franchise, and you in turn replied with a tone of absolute correctness and infallibility. So, whatever. Don't come on forums if you have no intention to actually discuss, kind of defeats their purpose.

 

[KingHodor]

This is the biggest issue I've had with the whole argument over the video. Everyone seems to be questioning "why were they dressed like that to assassinate someone?" yet no one questions "why is he wearing a formal suit to assassinate someone?". The answer to both questions is the same, but only one is being asked.

A man in a suit doesn't attract attention. just another face in the crowd. 7 attractive women in s&m gear is the opposite.

A man in a suit might even pass for a secret service agent, a bodyguard or a limo driver.

Kind of strikes me as more useful for an assassin than a dominatrix nun outfit with high-heeled latex stockings.

 

[Podunk]

Really? I don't think I want 'Hitman: Grindhouse'. Part of the thing that made Hitman great were it's mostly believable scenarios. I don't want to blow up a lot of stupid people in fetish outfits, unless they're actually at a fetish party!(Like that one mission)

 

[NvrPhazed]

I'm just going to say to all those people who quoted me, way to be sensitive. Just because I'm Christian, it does not give you the right to belittle my opinion as wrong. IMHO, just because you can take a group of people and use them for something that exploits them horribly like this, doesn't mean you should. It is called human decency which is what people who quoted me on this forum clearly do not have. I also said that them disguising as nuns wasn't bad, I said that the way they portrayed them as sex fiends was wrong. GTFO my nuts and let me have an opinion about religion for goodness sake.

capcha: be my friend (LOL)

 

[Something Amyss]

IO Interactive says it wasn't trying to stir up controversy with last week's Hitman: Absolution trailer.

See, they've already strained credibility.

And to prove my point, I'm going to show that video one more time so it can provoke you some more.

To be fair, I just can't see this stirring up anyone else.

That said, they should just not do this next time, and everyone will be happy.

Unfortunately, in the gaming industry it's more likely they will do the same next time and apologise.

The answer to both questions is the same, but only one is being asked.

I must have blinked and missed the part where 47 strips down to a thong to fight them.

...and i'm not sure they were real nuns anyways...

It's a video game. That's probably their confessional outfit.

 

[Something Amyss]

I mean 47 does wear a suit which is also highly unpractical. I love how people are angry at sexy nuns in a Hitman trailer but were silent when Duke Nukem Forever came out and was infinitely more vulgar.

And look at how much of a bigger reaction boobs on Sesame Street get than Boobs in porn! What a double standard.

 

[senordesol]

I mean 47 does wear a suit which is also highly unpractical. I love how people are angry at sexy nuns in a Hitman trailer but were silent when Duke Nukem Forever came out and was infinitely more vulgar.

And look at how much of a bigger reaction boobs on Sesame Street get than Boobs in porn! What a double standard.

Are you comparing Hitman to Sesame Street?

 

[Something Amyss]

Death of a Showman: He wears his suit into an abandoned amusement park run by gangsters and two-bit crooks.
A suit stands out.

Flatline: He wears his suit to an addiction clinic filled with patients and doctors.
A suit stands out.

The Murder of Crows: He wears his suit to Mardi Gras.
A suit stands out.

You Better Watch Out...: He wears his suit to a Christmas party.
A suit stands out.

Death on the Mississippi: He wears his suit onto a cruise ship in the deep south.
A suit stands out.

A House of Cards: He wears his suit to a casino hotel in Vegas.
A suit stands out.

A Dance with the Devil: He wears his suit to a Angel/Demon costume party.
Hey guess what, a suit stands out.

OT: Considering I assassinated people while dressed as a clown, Santa, a WWI soldier, a crow, and the Devil himself, I didn't really see anything wrong with this, it just sorta clashes a bit with the normal quietly dark humour they usually have going. They wore something that they thought would give them an edge over a man, but they didn't account for Agent Forty Seven being uninterested, so they die.

Most of these instances, a guy in a suit wouldn't garner much attention. We're trained to accept suits as a normal part of the scenery. A suit is not intended to garner attention. Incidentally, this is also why a nun outfit is a good disguise. We often filter out priests, nuns, etc. Same with service people. It's also why PVC bondage gear is a bad idea; it's designed to draw attention, and will rarely fit in with the scenery. Even when it does, it runs you a high risk for being noticed, which is a bad thing when you're packing large weapons.

 

[EvilMaggot]

IO Interactive is from Denmark.. Denmark was the first country in the world to legalize Porn.. there you have it.. we dont got such a huge problem in denmark with that kinda outfitting like apparently other countries do :/

 

[Something Amyss]

Are you comparing Hitman to Sesame Street?

Are you being serious?

Just in case: No. Not except for the sense that people expect different things from different aspects of the same medium. One might have different expectations viewing Hitman as opposed to Duke Nukem, the same way they might have different expectations viewing kids programming versus porn, or an Arnold Schwarzenegger flick vs Schindler's List.

 

[MorganL4]

I wasn't gonna buy it before I saw the trailer, not gonna buy it now......... So the whole controversy doesn't affect my wallet in any way.

 

[senordesol]

Are you comparing Hitman to Sesame Street?

Are you being serious?

Just in case: No. Not except for the sense that people expect different things from different aspects of the same medium. One might have different expectations viewing Hitman as opposed to Duke Nukem, the same way they might have different expectations viewing kids programming versus porn, or an Arnold Schwarzenegger flick vs Schindler's List.

Right but kids programming is pretty far removed from porn.

I wouldn't say Hitman is all that far removed from the Duke in terms of objectionability. They are both targeted at adults, both about killing stuff, both reduce people to little more than objects. Now Duke is more tongue-in-cheek about it, that much is true, but to suggest (if I am translating your sarcasm correctly) that objecting to breasts in HM and not in DN is no a double standard doesn't seem to track.

And historically, HM has never been averse to showing a little skin.

 

[WindKnight]

I mean 47 does wear a suit which is also highly unpractical. I love how people are angry at sexy nuns in a Hitman trailer but were silent when Duke Nukem Forever came out and was infinitely more vulgar.

Last time I checked DNF attracted a pretty hefty amount of fire for its unpleasant attitude to women at times.