Homeland Security Seizes Dozens of Piracy Websites
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Tom Goldman said:
Culling the heard of the weak sites only strengthens the numbers and support of the larger ones. Until the industry mutates to a point that renders piracy obsolete (somehow or another), piracy will exist, endure, and evolve.
I can only imagine being so totally and completely naive is probably a happy peaceful feeling. I bet it's damn near zen-like isn't it? However, those of us that are capable of thinking for ourselves realize that the big media corporations are just as bad if not worse than the pirates.Cryo84R said:
The pirates aren't the ones that are trying to censor the internet and shit all over everyone's freedom of speech. The pirates aren't the ones buying off politicians to forward their own agenda. People like Rupert Murdoch and his ilk, not the pirates, have come out and said things like he believes content providers should be the ones "running the internet". The pirates aren't the rich and powerful businessmen that are in a state of panic because their ancient business models are no longer viable.
Organizations like the MPAA and the RIAA know their time is coming to an end and rather than adapt and innovate they choose simply to pay off the people in a position of power and effectively curb stomp all over our rights in the name of combating piracy.
How about instead of taking down the whole damned site, they make every uploaded torrent have to be checked and approved by a Homeland Security agent.
Its just a different kind of theft.ciortas1 said:>stealingBenmonkey7 said:
When will people fucking get this right. Piracy is not stealing, piracy is copyright infringement. Here, I'll lay it down for you.
Stealing removes the product from the original owner, and that's the end of it.
Piracy copies the product, meaning the original owner still has his and he can still make a profit with it. Also, you have to get it through your thick skull that, due to that, piracy may have actual positive effects on the industry and that the damage done by it is literally impossible to prove.
Not only this, everyone seems to forget that so much as using a clip of a film or part of a soundtrack for a youtube video or whatever is considered copyright infringement.
They're overstepping their responsibilities but not their rights.thublihnk said:
The government didn't do anything wrong. They went through the same process that they would have gone through for any other criminal. They collected probable cause, got a warrant, got evidence and convicted the people.
True, it isn't the governments job to do that. But it is[i/] the governments job to stop crimes and apprehend suspects. Which is what is being done here. The fact that the criminals are pirates is irrelevant, because they're criminals nonetheless and need to be stopped.Fumbleumble said:
The government went through the same process that they would have gone through for any other criminal. But since its relatively new for this to happen with websites people are freaking out.
They only shut down sites hosted in the US. They didn't just shut them down though, they went through the court process. Got a warrant, collected evidence etc...FinalHeart95 said:
Don't we have a war going on, terrorists who want to kill us all, entire countires that hate us, and 500 miles of unfenced boarders to worry about, ICE?
1. You can't stop data, no matter what you do no matter how hard you try you can not and will not stop the spread of information or data. Rather or not you are in favour or against piracy you must realise that it's all just stop-gap measures.
2. I don't feel my tax money should be dealing with this kind of stuff as opposed to you know more important stuff. No artist that's being majorly downloaded is being stuck on the street due to this. No matter how much the entertainment industries tell you the reason if they are on hard times is most likely due to them releasing poor content.
3. Spending money on items is fine, I spend plenty of money on games and the movies I ennjoy, however I am not going to pay for an album that I can't find in a store and at best I'll get to overpay for on the internet. I am not going to pay for some bad film I know is bad, they know is bad and they release anyway. I am not going to pay for a tv show even more so if it's a network tv show, it's in the air it's no different then me getting the vhs(remember those?) of a show I missed during the week.
2. I don't feel my tax money should be dealing with this kind of stuff as opposed to you know more important stuff. No artist that's being majorly downloaded is being stuck on the street due to this. No matter how much the entertainment industries tell you the reason if they are on hard times is most likely due to them releasing poor content.
3. Spending money on items is fine, I spend plenty of money on games and the movies I ennjoy, however I am not going to pay for an album that I can't find in a store and at best I'll get to overpay for on the internet. I am not going to pay for some bad film I know is bad, they know is bad and they release anyway. I am not going to pay for a tv show even more so if it's a network tv show, it's in the air it's no different then me getting the vhs(remember those?) of a show I missed during the week.