Homeland Security Seizes Dozens of Piracy Websites
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I'm concerned about the site owners.
These websites were their livelihood.
It's like seizing a grocery store, taking it from the owner and denying him his work because he sells glue which some kids have been getting high off of.
I don't see how this could have been done in a supposedly civilised and moral country.
These websites were their livelihood.
It's like seizing a grocery store, taking it from the owner and denying him his work because he sells glue which some kids have been getting high off of.
I don't see how this could have been done in a supposedly civilised and moral country.
The industry is far from fat it has just changed it's game, if you want to make the industry ( I am assuming you are talking about films) take bigger risks on creative films buy more arthouse movies. That way they will see greater profiteability and invest in them.Csae said:
Actually, the bill hasn't passed as of yet. It still needs to be voted on by the senate.Mysnomer said:
More concerning is that these actions are in violation of the DMCA, as the owners of the websites were not warned before they were shut down. Essentially, the American government has decided, before a bill has passed, that they can act outside of their own laws.
Most concerning is that if this law does pass at senate, it gives the government power to shut down any website they want without consulting any external governing body, or putting it to a vote.
While we're on the topic of government, I will remind us all that all of these internet restriction laws are pushed by the MIAA and MPAA, on the basis that they have been losing money as a result of internet sharing.
http://www.grabstats.com/statmain.asp?StatID=74
http://www.mpaa.org/Resources/091af5d6-faf7-4f58-9a8e-405466c1c5e5.pdf
^Problem being that both groups have been increasing revenue at a steady rate regardless of any issues with pirating.
This whole things reeks of the government looking for a chance to have absolute control of information on the internet. Even if they claim that they will only use it for pirating, do you really think that they won't use this to block wikileaks, raid boards, etc?
Were you aware that the patriot act hasn't been rescinded despite Bush's original claims?
COICA actually hasn't passed, the senate hasn't even voted on it yet. It has to pass in the Senate and House, then go to the President. Anyone that knows anything about piracy knows that there are a ton of websites that offer easy access to pirated content and they stay in operation because they're on foreign soil. The language of this law makes it appear that a website has to be "dedicated to infringing content," not just host an infringing video from time to time like YouTube. Will the law get abused and is it a slippery slope? I don't really know. I do think that something has to be done about piracy though... whether it's COICA or not is unsure.Mysnomer said:
You make a good point, but at the same time there's a large amount of money being lost to piracy that would be helping out the economy in other ways. ( I also doubt those pirating music are pirating the Jonas Brothers )Icehearted said:
No matter your opinion of Piracy, the goverment should have to wait to start enforcing a bill until they actually PASS SAID BILL.
There's no proof of that really. In fact despite that most corporations make piracy out to be a huge deal that's costing them money they continue to make record profits every year. Maybe they'd have even higher record profits without piracy, but they're hardly going bankrupt.Schmittler said:
Final proof that the American governement is a fascist one.
It is not the job of a government, who's mandate lies with the people, to curtail the actions of it's citizens for the sole benefit of corporate interests.
This is NOT an economic issue.. One is not harmed through the absence of something they never had in the first place, except those who want more than they have at the detrement of those without the ability to get it.
These laws do nothing except make the rich richer and the expense of those without.
It is not the job of a government, who's mandate lies with the people, to curtail the actions of it's citizens for the sole benefit of corporate interests.
This is NOT an economic issue.. One is not harmed through the absence of something they never had in the first place, except those who want more than they have at the detrement of those without the ability to get it.
These laws do nothing except make the rich richer and the expense of those without.
Yes Piracy is bad.Chrono212 said:
Government institutions with the power to seize web domains without a trial is worse.
How exactly does this fall under the purview of Homeland Security? Are the sites being run by ter'rists?
Some of the sites had counterfeit merchandise? How did they know? If it was counterfeit, why go through all this crap, couldn't they just charge them with fraud? Unless they say it's counterfeit, and if that's the case, who gives a shit?!
Some of the sites had counterfeit merchandise? How did they know? If it was counterfeit, why go through all this crap, couldn't they just charge them with fraud? Unless they say it's counterfeit, and if that's the case, who gives a shit?!