Hotmail Users Accuse Microsoft of Sabotaging PSN Revival

[Calcium]

... *sighs*

I don't use gmail on the principle that any company that sends cars around the streets 'accidentily' harvesting information from wireless networks doesn't inspire trust.

That and hotmail works okay for me.

Maybe it's a bit much for the article to say that hotmail was sabotaging the psn revival but we did get a confirmation from microsoft that the reset emails were being blocked. Some of the lucky few got their emails early but the majority had to wait 24+ hours. Here's the message from microsoft:

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:03 PM

Hello Hotmail customers who are having issues receiving Sony?s password reset mails,

Thank you for reporting this issue so that we could investigate the situation. When Sony re-launched their online service and then Playstation users initiated password resets, Hotmail saw a dramatic, unexpected increase in mails sent from Sony. Unfortunately, these kinds of huge changes in volume are also one characteristic of an email server that has been compromised by spammers. Consequently, Hotmail temporarily refused delivery of emails from Sony?s password reset servers as a defensive response to a potential spam attack.

We have been in discussions with Sony to identify the affected servers and are delighted to report that this issue should now be resolved. It may take a couple of hours for you to receive your password reset mail. If you do not receive your reset mail within a few hours, please request a new password from Sony.

Hotmail and Sony are actively monitoring this situation to help better ensure that all password reset requests go through as quickly as possible.


Thank you,

If that's the case, methinks this topic needs updating. Thanks for sharing.

 

[draythefingerless]

Conspiracy bullshit. A better question is why the fuck is anyone still using hotmail?

The question is why the hell can't HOTMAIL deliver mail

Cause it's shit? Hell, it was shit when it first came into function, by today's standards, it's just downright awful. I honestly can't understand people who ever used it, much less those who still do.

would like to hear your arguments on that, and be sure to make them arguments, and not your personal experience with it, because i can pull that shit too with Gmail. keep in mind you also have to accumulate quite the controversy to make me see Hotmail as the devil, as you seem to be making it. I will take out of the way the more obvious ones.

Yes, Hotmail has yiffy aggressive spam filters. Yes they do not have the most famous record of safety, althou i blame that more on the users than the service.

 

[Vrach]

Conspiracy bullshit. A better question is why the fuck is anyone still using hotmail?

The question is why the hell can't HOTMAIL deliver mail

Cause it's shit? Hell, it was shit when it first came into function, by today's standards, it's just downright awful. I honestly can't understand people who ever used it, much less those who still do.

would like to hear your arguments on that, and be sure to make them arguments, and not your personal experience with it, because i can pull that shit too with Gmail. keep in mind you also have to accumulate quite the controversy to make me see Hotmail as the devil, as you seem to be making it. I will take out of the way the more obvious ones.

Yes, Hotmail has yiffy aggressive spam filters. Yes they do not have the most famous record of safety, althou i blame that more on the users than the service.

I never said hotmail's the devil here, merely saying I consider it surprising people are still using it with better stuff out there, most notably gmail. And yes, their previous record of safety, spam filters and similar stuff is what I'm talking about when I say it's shit.

 

[draythefingerless]

Conspiracy bullshit. A better question is why the fuck is anyone still using hotmail?

The question is why the hell can't HOTMAIL deliver mail

Cause it's shit? Hell, it was shit when it first came into function, by today's standards, it's just downright awful. I honestly can't understand people who ever used it, much less those who still do.

would like to hear your arguments on that, and be sure to make them arguments, and not your personal experience with it, because i can pull that shit too with Gmail. keep in mind you also have to accumulate quite the controversy to make me see Hotmail as the devil, as you seem to be making it. I will take out of the way the more obvious ones.

Yes, Hotmail has yiffy aggressive spam filters. Yes they do not have the most famous record of safety, althou i blame that more on the users than the service.

I never said hotmail's the devil here, merely saying I consider it surprising people are still using it with better stuff out there, most notably gmail. And yes, their previous record of safety, spam filters and similar stuff is what I'm talking about when I say it's shit.

/rant gmail is less danger free because when you join it, youre basically giving your stuff to the guy who wanted it in the first place, yes i said it. Google is a info eating monster, and gmail users are its bitches, strapped with a collar. /endrant

i have a gmail, and i receive more spam on that fucking thing in a month than on Hotmail in 2 years, and i know of many others who do so too. i NEVER received spam in my Hotmail, even thou i clicked somethings accidentally twice in the years i had it, and in Gmail, wich i never use, i receive half my mailbox full of it. so whats with al the people saying its better? because its from google? i see equal cases of both systems gettin fucked, but i always hear all over people going OH GAWD HOTMAIL, WHO USES IT WHEN GMAIL EXISTS, followed by vague shouts of hotmail fucking you in the ass with security and spam, in the PAST, even thou in the PAST, gmail didnt EXIST.

there arent many better than hotmail, there are dfferent, gmail can be safer than hotmail, even thou no one could ever present me hard evidence of that, but i never believed email threats were ever related to the email system itself. rather things like internet explorer or crappy anti viruses that plague computers in this world. its fairly impossible(take that with a grain of salt) to get your email info THRU the email system this day n age.

oh and dont get me started in the clogged conglomerated and buggy shit that is the gmail system. 10 hours to get in, and then the most busy work email reading system ever. dont even bother goin to the google mail page, i just use a external program to read emails.

 

[VanityGirl]

Nah. We all know this is Nintendo's fault. They hacked Hotmail to frame MS.

Exactly. Who hasn't figured this out yet?!

Seriously guys, Nintendo is the real enemy here.

 

[Vrach]

Conspiracy bullshit. A better question is why the fuck is anyone still using hotmail?

The question is why the hell can't HOTMAIL deliver mail

Cause it's shit? Hell, it was shit when it first came into function, by today's standards, it's just downright awful. I honestly can't understand people who ever used it, much less those who still do.

would like to hear your arguments on that, and be sure to make them arguments, and not your personal experience with it, because i can pull that shit too with Gmail. keep in mind you also have to accumulate quite the controversy to make me see Hotmail as the devil, as you seem to be making it. I will take out of the way the more obvious ones.

Yes, Hotmail has yiffy aggressive spam filters. Yes they do not have the most famous record of safety, althou i blame that more on the users than the service.

I never said hotmail's the devil here, merely saying I consider it surprising people are still using it with better stuff out there, most notably gmail. And yes, their previous record of safety, spam filters and similar stuff is what I'm talking about when I say it's shit.

/rant gmail is less danger free because when you join it, youre basically giving your stuff to the guy who wanted it in the first place, yes i said it. Google is a info eating monster, and gmail users are its bitches, strapped with a collar. /endrant

i have a gmail, and i receive more spam on that fucking thing in a month than on Hotmail in 2 years, and i know of many others who do so too. i NEVER received spam in my Hotmail, even thou i clicked somethings accidentally twice in the years i had it, and in Gmail, wich i never use, i receive half my mailbox full of it. so whats with al the people saying its better? because its from google? i see equal cases of both systems gettin fucked, but i always hear all over people going OH GAWD HOTMAIL, WHO USES IT WHEN GMAIL EXISTS, followed by vague shouts of hotmail fucking you in the ass with security and spam, in the PAST, even thou in the PAST, gmail didnt EXIST.

there arent many better than hotmail, there are dfferent, gmail can be safer than hotmail, even thou no one could ever present me hard evidence of that, but i never believed email threats were ever related to the email system itself. rather things like internet explorer or crappy anti viruses that plague computers in this world. its fairly impossible(take that with a grain of salt) to get your email info THRU the email system this day n age.

oh and dont get me started in the clogged conglomerated and buggy shit that is the gmail system. 10 hours to get in, and then the most busy work email reading system ever. dont even bother goin to the google mail page, i just use a external program to read emails.

Of course Google's an info eating monster... that doesn't mean it's one to fear.

And yeah, if you're not using your gmail, looks like it tends to clog up with spam. I've seen that with my mom's account, then again, she's kinda completely technically inept and throws her email around all over the place (+never reports spam, got a feeling she'd stop getting most if not all of it with just reporting what she had in her inbox atm).

Personally however - I haven't gotten a single spam message outside the spam folder in all the time I've used it, several years now. I'm not sure if gmail just gets better the more you use it by analyzing what kind of mail you're getting for real or what but fact is, I find it pretty awesome and don't have a single thing to complain about with it.

As far as logging in goes... I dunno, loads instantly for me, even if I'm on a shitty connection, like with my laptop in a bar or something. If the connection's really slow (I'm talking bad connection slow, like when you're far away from a wireless point or your net's fucked), you can always go for the HTML version of it as well.

For security, they've got a neat new little trick... you can rig it to text your phone with a password when someone tries to log in from any computer that's not authorized by you. So if you're worried about your email security, that's about the best solution you can get tbh. Doesn't cost you a dime either, which is pretty awesome.

As for difficulty in reading emails, not sure what your issue with it is... you can sort emails into folders, you can search for them, you can star them and conversations are sorted into a single link and remarkably easy to follow.

 

[tovansky]

why the heck are they using hotmail anyway?

 

[PinkiePyro]

Nah. We all know this is Nintendo's fault. They hacked Hotmail to frame MS.

they did more than that

 

[Fensfield]

'Bit late...

But, you know, I'd kinda like it if Sony did set up an E-Mail service. They're the only big company I feel generally comfortable with. Google are starting to feel kinda shady, Microsoft are often just plain slimey..

The big complaint about Sony on the other hand is callousness, which.. well it doesn't feel as bad as active privacy invasions or corporate warfare anyway.

I don't know, maybe I'm talking out of my backside, but I tell you one thing: PSN-Mail'd almost certainly have a sweeter-looking interface than Hotmail or GMail combined.