Well since I use Stem I don't care. You can play in offline mode if you want so it's not like they're going Ubisoft on us.
How do you feel about PC games that require Steam installed?
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It's nice to see some people out there are cognitive. After exploring the Anti Steam community I feel sorry for the blinkered approach of the "I love steam so I don't care if it is causing you problems" crowd. Because I have physical discs and yes maybe someone could break and enter and steal my discs but check youtube to see how easy some people hack steam accounts... Steam has made it increasingly easier for hackers and pirates but harder for single players without the need for steam to just buy and play our games. Do you think this will not drive people into using a pirate game if it is the only way to avoid steam ? do you seriously think that when you see the amount of effort and knowledge these anti steam guys invest into getting round steam security and accessing what they want (so easily including updates and dlc. There are complete tutorials on how to access every steam release for christ sake !!!), that steam will not be forced to spend on security and charge the account holders ? I wonder how long after that, those completely dismissive idiots will start taking notice of those with problems when it affects them financially or find 50 other people have used their account ? Me ? I still love online verification but will always oppose BIG BROTHER steam and now I need neither and can sell on my discs again.
Thats where you are mistaken my friend... the truth is STEAM has you.... IT has your games you own nothing physical if you bought online and should the worst happen then nothing is exactly what you'll be left with. For your own peace of mind I'd buy the discs in future even if you do blindly follow the steam bible.Macgyvercas said:
And dogstile is right that is the problem we all have with steam.... you used to have to install it before playing the game you bought on disc (not now I have my steam emulator) and not all of us want steam but were given no choice but to accept a 3rd party software and its internet connection. I have no need for my steam account now and have given it to my friends to use and play the games on there.
I download everything from Steam nowadays, so I don't care.
If they don't require to be on Steam I'll still register them if I can.
Valve have a patch ready that disables the need for Steam and let's you get all your games, should they ever go out of business.
If they don't require to be on Steam I'll still register them if I can.
Research is your friend.strigoivii said:
Valve have a patch ready that disables the need for Steam and let's you get all your games, should they ever go out of business.
I no longer have to use steam so I alone decide what software runs on my pc. I couldn't care less whether it was resource hungry or whether it came with a free £50 and accelerated my cpu and increased my ram... I never asked for it. I bought a game and Steam was on it and gave me nothing but grief... NOTHING will make me install STEAM again. Who's to say that VALVE will not charge for the patch... especially if they were going out of business.
Research is my friend, it showed me how easy people hack accounts, how easily they download games and make as standalone with full updates and DLC, it showed me how I don't have to stop playing games I like as I can install from the disc and bypass Steam.... Yes research IS my friend. If you are happy with someone else holding on to something you've bought then you take the risk but at least buy the discs and still use steam and at least you'll have something physical just in case the worst happens.
Research is my friend, it showed me how easy people hack accounts, how easily they download games and make as standalone with full updates and DLC, it showed me how I don't have to stop playing games I like as I can install from the disc and bypass Steam.... Yes research IS my friend. If you are happy with someone else holding on to something you've bought then you take the risk but at least buy the discs and still use steam and at least you'll have something physical just in case the worst happens.
At first it pissed me off when I needed to have it to even run the HL2 demo, but I got used to it and now love it. I do find it hilarious that there are all these threads on the Steam forums about people buying games off Steam that require GFWL to run and they complain about how stupid it is that you need to have GFWL running at all times to play the game and you should not have to install some program to play the game.
Think about it.... YOU are valve, 1000's of people have bought say 30 games each (£1000 or $1000) and they have nothing just a promise of a patch from you. Now YOU are going broke and going out of business, how much do you think that patch is worth to someone who has £1000 worth of hot air if they don't have the patch ? Is it worth £20 to get all your games back ? You could call it an administration fee. 10,000 people and a fifth of a million quick and easy.
It's a nuisance at best, though it can be annoying having to run Steam when I want to play a single-player game.
I'm not smart enough to have the answer to stop piracy and the developers have the right to protect their product but Steam just goes too far. It is designed for online multiplayers and is not (too) problematic for those. but for the majority of people who don't want to play the same (YAWN) map repeatedly and want to play only single player, it is intrusive and has caused many a headache. Simple solution is multiplayer bought only online and single player sold on disk with a one time verification when installed without the need for a steam account.
My only problem with steam is that it is not optional. Actually thinking on... perhaps I DO have the answer to piracy. many laptops are being made with a fingerprint scanner so people cannot access your files... so, sell usb fingerprint scanners and when you buy a game in a shop you have your fingerprint scanned and when you install you scan at home and it is verified online at a database.... Hey and on the plus side that would do away with the need for STEAM..... hang on while I get my dissmissive hat on....
I love fingerprint scanning so I don't have a problem with steam folding... no I just can't do it as well as some of the people on here....
My only problem with steam is that it is not optional. Actually thinking on... perhaps I DO have the answer to piracy. many laptops are being made with a fingerprint scanner so people cannot access your files... so, sell usb fingerprint scanners and when you buy a game in a shop you have your fingerprint scanned and when you install you scan at home and it is verified online at a database.... Hey and on the plus side that would do away with the need for STEAM..... hang on while I get my dissmissive hat on....
I love fingerprint scanning so I don't have a problem with steam folding... no I just can't do it as well as some of the people on here....
i prefer it to be on steam, because i can get it on different computers. and so i can re-download it if it needs to be removed.
oppp7... if you are asking what problems exist with steam... there are several but to pick a few.
it took over a day to install a game because it kept ignoring my disk and tried to download the entire game.
it is software I neither want on my pc, running in the background or accessing my internet connection.
Some people have mobile broadband and either lose signal due to their location or run out of allowance for the month and cannot carry on playing a game that they own even though they have the disk in the drive.
My system is the minimum requirement so having any other programs running (including Steam or the internet) causes the game to lag.
They are trying to FORCE it on everyone by withholding some of the game and having it only accessible via DLC.
Everything else I buy I have the choice to keep forever or sell 2nd hand (or swap) they took that option away until the steam bypass software appeared.
If Steam works for you then great but why should EVERYONE be led by the nose just because a few enjoy it.
it took over a day to install a game because it kept ignoring my disk and tried to download the entire game.
it is software I neither want on my pc, running in the background or accessing my internet connection.
Some people have mobile broadband and either lose signal due to their location or run out of allowance for the month and cannot carry on playing a game that they own even though they have the disk in the drive.
My system is the minimum requirement so having any other programs running (including Steam or the internet) causes the game to lag.
They are trying to FORCE it on everyone by withholding some of the game and having it only accessible via DLC.
Everything else I buy I have the choice to keep forever or sell 2nd hand (or swap) they took that option away until the steam bypass software appeared.
If Steam works for you then great but why should EVERYONE be led by the nose just because a few enjoy it.