How is 9/11 viewed internationally?
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The Chinese were cheering at first, because it was a punch to the crotch to perceived Chinese arrogance. A few months before 9/11, tensions were hot because of the U-2 spy incident. 9/11 is a big deal in China now, but the tone is much more sympathetic because there's a more human touch to the story now, and tensions are generally pretty stable between the US and China.
Dear Lord. Now you're bringing up Pearl Harbour? Why not August the 6th 1945? What happened on September 11th was not "an attack" like any in war, it was a criminal action perpetrated by some nasty deranged bastards. Thats it. In that case, why not the Oklahoma City bombings if that's the specific field of study? No? Though I'm not saying the world should hold barn dances specifically on September 11th we should not all have to torture ourselves over it forever. Life goes on. Its overuse in U.S. politics as almost a catchphrase is sickening. There is bad shit happening in the world TODAY lets focus on that now shall we?Cyrax987 said:
In Australia, people know about it, most of them watched it on TV at the time and can remember where they were. They don't make a big thing of it though, and tend to shake their heads a bit at the US's morbid obsession over it. Also people in the US who look to 9/11 as a good justification for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan are looked at over here with utter contempt. It's common knowledge here that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
It was a big deal at the time but it means as much to me now as any other disaster ten years ago. Don't get me wrong, of course it's terrible that those people died and it shouldn't be forgotten (although, it shouldn't be remembered for the wrong reasons either). It was a tragedy but it didn't directly affect me so I'd be lying if I said otherwise.
Also, going to Ground Zero was pretty crazy.
Also, going to Ground Zero was pretty crazy.
Over here we mostly get referenced to it as the event that dominated the past decade, which you can't really deny. Then again, the butterfly effect means anything will influence the future.
But if you look at the news from the past decade, a lot of it seems to be formed as a result of this. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (as convoluted as it may have been, it was connected)to name the two most obvious. Both with their own side effects.
But other than that, it's not that big a deal.
But if you look at the news from the past decade, a lot of it seems to be formed as a result of this. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (as convoluted as it may have been, it was connected)to name the two most obvious. Both with their own side effects.
But other than that, it's not that big a deal.
Was in school when the news came. A minute of silence for the people what died. Didn't change the fact that Hungarians just fucking loathe America for some reason. (not that it's hard to find one, or more, but the extent of this hatred is surprising, especially considering all the capitulizm going on here)
It was an example to get my point across...Images said:
Way to completely ignore the rest of my post and attack me on one little thing I brought up to make my point. It was a major attack, it wasn't a dozen people like 24 it was over 3000 people. Life does go on and I have already done that and I don't try and shove 9/11 down people's throats.
But to actually say it wasn't a big deal at all is a lie because it was, and not just for Americans. Just like the tsunami and earthquake that devastated Japan. I think I'm done pretty much in this thread, I've explained my views and defended them and there is nothing else to say. I'm not going to go pray for an hour but I do remember it.
I'm not insulting anyone and I don't mind if people don't take it as anything important to them personally because that is their right and it wasn't something the whole world should have to care about. I know on the internet it is popular to bash America but I'm sure there was a lot of people from different countries that had plenty of sympathy for the attacks on that day just like I had sympathy for the attacks in India. I felt bad for the people that were killed during the riots that happened this year and especially the earthquake/tsunami that happened to Japan.
All I was trying to do was make my point that it was kind of a big deal at the time and that it isn't wrong for Americans to care about the incident even though they didn't have personal loved ones killed. I'm listening to Daft Punk so nothing can put me in a bad mood by the way.
I lived in Indonesia at the time of the attacks. My initial reaction was disbelief, followed by a dawning realization in my 12 year old brain that this would be bad for me as an expatriate in a muslim nation due to the inevitable disproportionate retaliation to the attack that was sure to follow. I was right. 10 years, many dead freedoms, two wars, and at least 150,000 mostly civilian casualties later the United States is still at war with a tactic.
I am disappointed and dismayed though not surprised at the ruthlessness with which the American people, particularly those who most fervently claim Christ's mantle, have embraced revenge. I cannot comprehend the nature of the disproportionate response. While I know the factors that caused it, I still have difficulty accepting that a population can be so divorced from the barrel of their own gun even as they point it at others.
If anything the response to 9/11 proved my pessimism about the social "progress" of the western world. Western society, like any other, needs only the right trigger to bathe in the blood of the "other" and how easy it is to provide that trigger.
I am disappointed and dismayed though not surprised at the ruthlessness with which the American people, particularly those who most fervently claim Christ's mantle, have embraced revenge. I cannot comprehend the nature of the disproportionate response. While I know the factors that caused it, I still have difficulty accepting that a population can be so divorced from the barrel of their own gun even as they point it at others.
If anything the response to 9/11 proved my pessimism about the social "progress" of the western world. Western society, like any other, needs only the right trigger to bathe in the blood of the "other" and how easy it is to provide that trigger.
The media loves it, but here in Sweden no one has ever cared at all. Why should we?
I'm pretty sure 9/11 was the starting point for my deep hatred for American patriotism.
I'm pretty sure 9/11 was the starting point for my deep hatred for American patriotism.
Agreed I was in an International American school at the time. Later that evening after the attack. People were condoling the American Teachers. It made no sense to me as far as I knew none of them had family members there.Cheshire the Cat said:
I heard a few when I was over there and mentioned it, and got thrown out of a few places for mentioning it. i actually if I think about it, i think one of the drunker bitchers about it gave me a death threat over it. Of course I got dirty looks for never understanding why Britain couldnt just give up a track of land like that since they didnt want to be part of it, but i guess Brits never seemed to think that a country should leave them once they forcibly take over unless it gets a view on the world stage.RevRaptor said:
besides, if I remember correctly, there was some kinda controsversy over it in britain when deadliest warrior decided to do an episode with them and they didnt even air the show on tv.
Sounds to me like QUITE a few people arent over it yet.
Eh, no big deal, the number of American dead on that day is less than the number of people killed in Panama in 1989 when the US invaded. The UN condemned that attack as well, and the casualties were almost entirely civilian to boot.
Truth be told, 9/11 didn't involve mass graves with bodies found hands bound and shot in the back of the head by Al Qaeda like Panama experienced at the hands of US forces, so, in that sense, 9/11 isn't as bad.
Truth be told, 9/11 didn't involve mass graves with bodies found hands bound and shot in the back of the head by Al Qaeda like Panama experienced at the hands of US forces, so, in that sense, 9/11 isn't as bad.
I'm in Australia and I was 9 (nearly 10) when I heard about it and I remember exactly where I was, and most of that day, even though I was too young fully understand the impact. Was the first time I learned the word "terrorist" though.
Doesn't really affect us Australian's much though (unless we lost someone in the attacks), since it did happen in the other half of the world. Doesn't mean we're heartless about it though.
Doesn't really affect us Australian's much though (unless we lost someone in the attacks), since it did happen in the other half of the world. Doesn't mean we're heartless about it though.
Perhaps the government in charge but (at the time, I should add that stipulation) not everyone.Pluvia said:
Just as an example canada didnt seem to care for some of the shenanigans that its former governmental leader was doing (Pretty sure thats what the whole canada on the US list of piracy article was about). though admittedly they didnt take it to that extreme.
The US had its successionary part of the Confederate states and if you listen to the right (read retarded) people, theres going to be another split over either conservatism or class. And there always seems to be mutterings in Britain about what one party is doing to screw over the other and how they wont take it anymore.
It is not a question of numbers dead. Numbers are not important, otherwise no one would give a damn about the Norway killings. After all, isn't the deaths by cancer even more numerous?
The reason it's still important now is because it was traumatizing. It was traumatizing the same way WWII was to Europe, just the same as it was traumatizing how Little Boy and Fat Man flattened Japanese cities (as opposed to the firebombs over Tokyo). Do Europeans "get over" WWII and Fascism and the Japanese "get over" getting nuked? Apparently they still care, and for good reason, even if they were not personally affected. It is not about number, but about effect. If you consider yourself an American, and affiliate yourself with the US, how can you NOT be affected when symbols of your country are destroyed?
The reason it's still important now is because it was traumatizing. It was traumatizing the same way WWII was to Europe, just the same as it was traumatizing how Little Boy and Fat Man flattened Japanese cities (as opposed to the firebombs over Tokyo). Do Europeans "get over" WWII and Fascism and the Japanese "get over" getting nuked? Apparently they still care, and for good reason, even if they were not personally affected. It is not about number, but about effect. If you consider yourself an American, and affiliate yourself with the US, how can you NOT be affected when symbols of your country are destroyed?