I don't like the smell of it either. lol.Rastelin said:Yes if you smoke. Has nothing do with standing a few feet away from someone who does. That wont transform you into a cancer factory.Moonlight Butterfly said:Well I have an illness that could easily develop into cancer if I smoke so yeah, self preservation. I did not mean to sound snotty.
I can only really speak for myself, but I think I picked up smoking as a way of coping. It just made me feel alot better, in general. A contributing cause was that the main thing that weighed me down at that time was that dad had recently died, and he was a smoker himself (along with all my older brothers, oddly), so it also had a feeling of familiarity to it. Hell, it still got that feeling for me. It's a stupid habit, but it's at least something we've got in common. Or something like that, it's weird to explain. It just did (and does, I suppose) make me feel better, so I kept going.Proverbial Jon said:Never.
I don't understand what drives people to take up smoking. I get that you might want to try one, after all what curious child/teenager doesn't try just about everything regardless of whether it's a good idea or not? But surely you can't get addicted through just one cigarette? Perhaps it's a difficult concept for me to grasp, being a non-smoker myself, but isn't the decision to take up smoking a conscious one? A choice that must require a certain amount of thought? So when does the health issues and constant money drain ever seem like a good idea to someone?
Someone help me out here.
Did you actually inhale it? A lot of people don't feel the nicotine rush because they don't know how to inhale properly, myself included when I first tried.Combine Rustler said:Eh... 15? I think?
Must have been a really weak cigarette, or there's some super secret trick to smoking, because it barely felt like anything at all.
Not that I'd have to worry about lung cancer, heart'll get me quicker than that.
Nice. That's the thing. Taking time to enjoy a good moment, whether huge stuff like you're talking about, or maybe just a damn fine evening with a couple of buds over. Call it a "vice" if you want, but so's ice cream. And you know, life's too short not to allow yourself any indulgence.DoomyMcDoom said:Sure one cigar might set me back $30 or more depending on the brand and location of purchase, but since I also only drink high quality whiskey, lookin at a good $120 or higher for a bottle, I tend to enjoy such things only on occassions that call for it, promotions, babies born to friends or close family, marriages, deaths of long standing foes, y'know, stuff like that.
Well yes, if you stink I don't want you coming near me, now if I come near you I've got nothing to complain about.Rastelin said:It smells bad? So would you disapprove of fat, sweaty and smelly people coming to the park on a warm day? They must offend you in the same manner if smell your argument.
Really? putting up with bad smells is the definition of interaction...hmmm I must be doing it wrong, I've been, you know talking and doing stuff with people.Rastelin said:This is called interacting among other people.
I'm talking about a radius of several feet.Rastelin said:And I am not talking about smoking in their faces.
Uhh yes you can, If you get there and no one else is there you got there first, you seem to think I was implying that gives them Ownership of the whole place which I didn't.Rastelin said:You need to realize that there is no such thing as "being there first" in a public space. Hence the word "public space".
Well that certainly came out of nowhere. tldr;Rastelin said:And this being a gamer forum, you might want to comment on this to http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Computer_games_health_issues
There are a lot of things with cause and effect. It is called living.
It's true, life is short, too short, and can end at any moment, I've seen death too many times not to try to enjoy living.Mouse One said:Nice. That's the thing. Taking time to enjoy a good moment, whether huge stuff like you're talking about, or maybe just a damn fine evening with a couple of buds over. Call it a "vice" if you want, but so's ice cream. And you know, life's too short not to allow yourself any indulgence.DoomyMcDoom said:Sure one cigar might set me back $30 or more depending on the brand and location of purchase, but since I also only drink high quality whiskey, lookin at a good $120 or higher for a bottle, I tend to enjoy such things only on occassions that call for it, promotions, babies born to friends or close family, marriages, deaths of long standing foes, y'know, stuff like that.
I'm a public smoker, and I like myself.Rastelin said:And doesn't like public smokers, check!
I think you should re-read what I wrote, because that's not what I said.Rastelin said:Feels he has the right to be offended. Not the other way around. Check!wulf3n said:Well yes, if you stink I don't want you coming near me, now if I come near you I've got nothing to complain about.
That was a joke.Rastelin said:So what is the problem?wulf3n said:Really? putting up with bad smells is the definition of interaction...hmmm I must be doing it wrong, I've been, you know talking and doing stuff with people.
Then what are we arguing about?Rastelin said:So was I.wulf3n said:I'm talking about a radius of several feet.
I don't disagree, which is why I prefaced my first post with depends on your definition of "nearby" as 10 meters is not nearby.Rastelin said:Now that I have done my bickering. I fully understand why some people dislike standing next to someone who smokes and gets it up in their faces. But to many take it to far. In my country the debate after the ban on smoke in all public places was effective, has changed from support to a mixture of wonder and skepticism. A lot of non smokers feel this has turned in to a witch hunt caused by a lot of clueless people who only sees a opportunity to take a stab at a group that already have been chased out in to the cold.
I once lost it and told a family to get the fuck out the park because the good father got up and went all the 10 meters over to a man in his 80'ts enjoying a pipe, telling him to stop smoking. This is what I am talking about. Not if a asshole are blowing the smoke in your face. Then you have all the right to tell him to fuck off.