How SHOULD sex scenes in games work?

[ZippyDSMlee]

Off screen GOW style or a cutseen like ME/DA. Of course with nudity would be nice.

I do not think sex based mini games would be.... worth while? THo the GOW one is tasteful and funny at teh same time unless your a prud

That or a groinal unit to ware out!!

 

[Apocalypse Tank]

Turn based dice rolling

 

[ScoopMeister]

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Sex shouldn't be in games to begin with.

It's an embarrassment to society that needs to be corrected.

Sex itself or sex in video games/media?

Both I guess. :\

Yes! Ban sex...
I'm not entirely sure of your logic there mate.

 

[StrangerQ]

I really liked ME one since in my gameplay it happened really really late in the game and being well immersed after 4 continous hours of playing the scene was well executed, with nudity and proper handling of moment.

 

[conflictofinterests]

Important is that it should be sensual and gentle.
Not erotic, because....well it just looks like porn.

... Well, speaking from real life experience here, "sensual and gentle" might be the realistic way the first time you have it with a brand new partner. (mostly due to the fact that it's a pretty scary boundary to cross, especially with someone that you truly care about etc. etc.)

But after those first few times, sex tend to be more like it is in porn (in my experience at least).

So if the goal is to emulate realism here, then omitting the "porn-like" stuff wouldn't exactly be the correct way of doing it.

Just sayin'

That was exactly my point yes.

It also depends on the characters, and how comfortable they are with their own sexualities, and what they perceive sexuality to be in themselves and in their partner. If you're going to be mature and believable about these scenes, you're going to have to take into account people who are horrified by genitals, people who can't help but giggle when those parts are mentioned, people who get aroused at the slighted provocation, people who take some persuasion... These are dynamics that aren't even TOUCHED upon in games that aren't dedicated entirely to romance/erotica (and as I've never played any that ARE dedicated to that, I can't vouch as to whether or not these dynamics are touched on there or not). Different people react to different propositions differently.

 

[Zachary Unkle]

Quick time events.

 

[Frostbyte666]

implied sex always makes the romance seem more intimate since I feel too much like a voyeur if there is a scene. Also I find that it deepens the relationship between the characters if its implied than the player and 1 of the characters. A previous example would be the cloud tifa scene at the highwind. I found that seemed quite intimate between Cloud and Tifa taking their relationship to the next level, and no player you can't watch them have their quality time together just come back in the morning.
Also remember the 1 thing more erotic than a breast, is the promise of a breast.

 

[conflictofinterests]

This has the hopeful added benefit of not give Fox News anything to complain about...

That's perhaps the most hopeful thought I've ever heard. I'm pretty sure Fox would find a way to complain about a Care Bears game.

WHAT IS THAT STUFF COMING OUT OF THEM?! IT IS SEXUAL INNUENDO!

No, sir, they are using hope and love and whatnot to defeat-

LOVE?! YOU MEAN SEMINAL FLUID!!!

 

[Eldarion]

Sex is a normal part of the human experience. I cannot believe the prudes in here.

 

[Hectix777]

Simple, first off there NEEDS to be intimacy. Sex without intimacy is porn. Next, it should be somewhat tasteful: it has to be between the ME1 sex scene (which is close to a goldilocks zone as games can get) and tv or movie sex scenes. Not sex scenes like in Drive Angry (WAY too graphic), just enough to show emotion and love.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Off screen GOW style or a cutseen like ME/DA. Of course with nudity would be nice.

I do not think sex based mini games would be.... worth while? THo the GOW one is tasteful and funny at teh same time unless your a prud

That or a groinal unit to ware out!!

Urgh, sex in GoW is so badly done.

It sort of remind me of that episode of How I Met Your Mother, where Barney Stinson attributed all his sexual success to that instance where he had sex with the "manmaker". In his memory he thought that he "rocked her world", because he wasn't really paying attention to her genuine reaction to the sex.

But what actually happened was that she had given him a pretty insincere "compliment", despite the fact that she thought the sex was pretty lousy.

The sex scenes in the GoW are pretty much the "Barney Stinson" view of how well he preformed. (I mean come on! They even had to include two lesbian onlookers who make envious remarks of the treatement that their mistress gets from KRatos in GoW III). It's so silly and implausible that it makes you cringe. And it only leaves you with the cynical feeling that as soon as Kratos left Aphrodite's bedchambers, she probably told her two lesbian gimps that she faked it all and that Kratos (being so full of himself that he is) didn't have the slightest idea of what he was doing besides getting himself of and way too prematurely for Aphrodites liking.

So, less "male ego flattering"-bullshit and more portrayed sense of insecurity and exploration and we might get something close to the real thing...

 

[Continuity]

If no one else has said it then this: Red Dwarf Gunmen of the Apocalypse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwuwT6IHfeE

 

[pulse2]

I don't mind, makes a nice change from the brainless toads killing and swearing in the likes of Killzone and Gears 'because it's cool' ¬_¬. No it isn't, swaering does not make the character cooler, just reinforces the notion that games are for the immature.

... Or it could make the setting in the game seem more realistic.

You do know that soldiers in a lot of armies across the world, where the training basically consist of breaking down the recruits into emotionally unstable people, and then filling all those broken cracks with cement of macho bravado, killer instinct and a hefty respect towards authority (basically the people who command the most guns and where the guns shoot at), added with some veteran status of frontline experience and lovely memories of your comrades in arms, innocent civilians and enemies being blown to gory, raw hamburger-like bits, tends to make you somewhat desensitized towards the "horrors" of an "unwholesome" use of language.

Or to put it simply; it's not surprising that veteran soldiers swear and cuss a FUCKING lot amongst eachother.

"I've been ordered to put bullets in living, breathing people, and you expect me to care about making an effort in not using the dreaded f-word because it might 'offend' someone?" <-- decent reaction from a veteran.

NO, swearing isn't "cool", but frequent swearing is a trait associated with aggressive people, and few things serve to make a person more aggressive than infantry work in a war...

While you may have a point, I still don't buy it. The swearing in these games went from pretty awesome as I put a chainsaw / bullet through another enemy's head, to 'yeah, okay, you F***ING saw another enemy', good for you.

It started to become a little annoying, to me those characters still just come across has brainless toads, I don't care a single bit for them, in fact I wish they'd just die and stay dead, I don't want to have to keep reviving them just for them to use up my dolby surround sound with just a series of brainless swearing for no apparent reason.

I'd like a bit more REAL war emotions, I don't mind the hard edged characters and I don't mind swearing, but when all the characters and the entire game consists of just these two things, it's boring. Even action heros like Syvester Stallone show more emotion then that, and they are as wooden as actors get.

This is just a personal vendetta, both games are awesome, they just fail to keep my brain stimulated.

 

[Uberpig]

Sex scenes tend to be pointless in any form of media. It doesn't work as titillation, because if that's what you're after there are far quicker ways to get it, and if you're trying to establish a relationship or sexual attraction there are better, subtler and more interesting ways to go about it.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Off screen GOW style or a cutseen like ME/DA. Of course with nudity would be nice.

I do not think sex based mini games would be.... worth while? THo the GOW one is tasteful and funny at teh same time unless your a prud

That or a groinal unit to ware out!!

Urgh, sex in GoW is so badly done.

It sort of remind me of that episode of How I Met Your Mother, where Barney Stinson attributed all his sexual success to that instance where he had sex with the "manmaker". In his memory he thought that he "rocked her world", because he wasn't really paying attention to her genuine reaction to the sex.

But what actually happened was that she had given him a pretty insincere "compliment", despite the fact that she thought the sex was pretty lousy.

The sex scenes in the GoW are pretty much the "Barney Stinson" view of how well he preformed. (I mean come on! They even had to include two lesbian onlookers who make envious remarks of the treatement that their mistress gets from KRatos in GoW III). It's so silly and implausible that it makes you cringe. And it only leaves you with the cynical feeling that as soon as Kratos left Aphrodite's bedchambers, she probably told her two lesbian gimps that she faked it all and that Kratos (being so full of himself that he is) didn't have the slightest idea of what he was doing besides getting himself of and way too prematurely for Aphrodites liking.

So, less "male ego flattering"-bullshit and more portrayed sense of insecurity and exploration and we might get something close to the real thing...

Make that pruds and people that think sex has to be "special".
LOL

GOW dose it as a silly aside, which is alot better than how a hentai game dose it. Least mechanically speaking...

 

[TheKruzdawg]

I'm of the opinion, like a lot of people in this thread, that implication is best. I know what sex looks like and unless I'm specifically looking for porn, I don't need to have it shoved in my face. Although it was always a little bit awkward, I like how Mass Effect handled the scenes when you finally got to them: some conversation, maybe a caress and a tiny bit of skin, and then it would pan away and come back when the deed was done.

All of the scenes that I saw ( Male Shep & Ashley; FemShep & Liara, FemShep & Garrus, and Male Shep & Tali) I thought were done fairly well and they gave you enough so that you knew what was going to happen and could extrapolate the general feelings of the people involved (how passionate, awkward, or w/e it was going to be) and they let your imagination do the rest.

 

[Reece Stevens]

Sex shouldn't be in games to begin with.

It's an embarrassment to society that needs to be corrected.

Sex itself or sex in video games/media?

Both I guess. :\

ok, so If you want mass human extinction thats fine by me, I don't mind celibates, but asking others to not mention or show sex is a bit too... forceful

like I have vegitarian friends who still let me eat meat around them, and gay friends that let me mention hetrosexual sex around them (hell, they seem to joke about it more)

Im not trying to denounce your veiw, you just come off as awfully forceful, thats all.

I hope there are no hard feelings and this is not taken out of context, I also apoligise if the origional scentence was taken out of context to begin with

 

[Zechnophobe]

Simple, first off there NEEDS to be intimacy. Sex without intimacy is porn.

Er... I don't think that's true. I mean, it may gravitate in that direction, but sex WITH intimacy can also be porn, and sex without sometimes isn't. I'm talking both real life, and in games.

 

[aPod]

Im perfectly happy with Fable style. Fade to black "Oh you are a hero!" its more than enough. Then again, it depends entirely on the game.

Games like Heavy Rain that wish to go for the hollywood style sex scene would seem perfectly reasonable to me though.

 

[Saviordd1]

In the witcher, we have little cards that depict.. something.

In Bioware games we have odd looking groping. In some games like Fahrenheit their might be odd zombie sex or steamy shower scenes.

But what actually should work?

Oh, and this is meant to be a question for 'games that have some sex' as opposed to 'games about sex'.

I've slowly started to 'yawn' at Bioware's style myself. The whole idea of flirting at random intervals, followed by a sudden 'quick lets hump!' scene just feels weird. They are meant to be romances but generally start with mad sexings, instead of ending there.

It also feels very modal. "This is the point where you may lay with this person in the game, so sayeth the Wise Allaundo." You never have something like "Man, that last fight with those darkspawn was terrible" or "My mom.. is dead. I need something to take my mind off it." That is, unless it is pre-programmed to work that way.

There also isn't much in the middle. If you really were having a romantic affair with a character you were adventuring with, wouldn't the occasional makeout session (even off camera) make sense? OMG, we killed a dragon... let's make-out!

All in all, I honestly don't want explicit. And I sure as heck don't want 'fake explicity' aka dry humping. But I would like to feel my character/avatar was in a PASSIONATE relationship.

You?

Honestly bioware is closeEST (Not 100% good) with it so far, Mass effect one was the best, it showed the characters trusted each other and we're doing it to confirm their love. But DAO, DA2, and ME2 we're just silly, the animations were horrible, the scenes came at predictable times and meh. So if bioware can take the ME1 idea and run with it better theyll be on to something