I blame PCs for the PCification of console gaming

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Games having to install before you can play them. I don't need to name examples

I don't know, some examples would be nice for games that require to be installed if at all on a console to play them, though MGS4 doesn't count, we already know about it.




Games needing patches to work properly. As if I'm running Windows 2000 and it's made for 9x

So every game, ever made, or to be made, should be 100% perfectly functional upon release?



Pointless graphics options. Why should I need to select whether I want V-sync? You're built for a console, just be what's best

So making sure the game runs as smoothly as possible is a bad thing?

Games not working on certain hardware versions. God of War, you started it

Not a fault of the PC's more on the developers than anything since they didn't work out those issues beforehand.

Software as a service pricing models. No, I don't want to pay monthly or for specific features

This started on Consoles, specifically 360 with the XBox Live Marketplace. Pay to Play on PC's is minimal and not as popular, and sadly is still around but XBox players essentially pay a fee to use the XBox Live service and have access to online content, multiplayer games, coop games, etc. So your argument here is invalid.

Everything being brown. Because I want to blame this arbitrarily on PCs

Actually this was done for the consoles due to the limitations on their hardware. Also, you invalidate just about everything you've said in your post with saying you're simply arbitrarily blaming it on PC's, meaning you're basically just pissing into the wind for the sheer pleasure of it.

 

[Balobo]

Those really rediculously expensive gaming PC's you're going on about have the capacity to make a 360 look like a seriously archaic joke.

Yes, but I'm more than happy with the graphical limitations of the 360/PS3. In fact, "What Did I Do to Deserve This, My Lord" is visually appealing for what it is!

Can we please, PLEASE, PLEASE get back to advancing gameplay, the most important element of a game? It's BEYOND SAD that the most interesting & advanced game I've played in a long time is "What Did I Do to Deserve This, My Lord".

Play more games.

 

[Frotality]

hmm... youve addressed the issue of PC/console rivalry on the side of consoles without sounding like an ass.

that alone is worth respect; as a card carrying member of the PC master race, i approve.

 

[Awexsome]

It's amazing how many people didn't get the joke. For some of you PC gamers... look in the mirror here. It was a joke of how YOU sound.


You're just as wrong as this guy would be if you really weren't smart enough to take him seriously.

 

[4li3n]

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You show me which part of his post could be passed off as satire and then start throwing the accusations of stupidity. Satire, like, say, an insult, has to have at least a ring of truth to it to be worthwhile. This doesn't. This is the equivalent of running up to a fit guy and calling him a fatso.

MFW I never called it satire.

And yet it still is satire, Hammeroj just doesn't seem to get that it satirizes complaints about consolization, and thus the fact that the complaints are totally off base / exaggerated to the extreme is what makes it work.

 

[4li3n]

For some of you PC gamers... look in the mirror here. It was a joke of how YOU sound.

You're just as wrong as this guy would be if you really weren't smart enough to take him seriously.

No, that's how the idiots look, and there's plenty of them on any platform... console ports have been the main force responsible for simplifying controls and corridor shooters being the norm on PC (i hope any new gen has at least 4-6GB of RAM and a few cores)... but of course so has gaming itself becoming more mainstream etc... see here:
http://img.anongallery.org/img/4/8/fpx_map_design_vs.jpg

I'm quite aware, I just wanted to avoid a pointless argument.

I find that contrary to the purpose of this thread... quick, someone report him...

 

[Elsarild]

Can't tell if dumb or trolling.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

(i hope any new gen has at least 4-6GB of RAM and a few cores)

Both the Xbox360 and the PS3 have multicore CPUs. Those are so very much not an issue .

The RAM issue, though... that's something console designers really need to look at. Without a decent chunk of RAM holding all the bits and pieces together devs are going to be pushing shit uphill to try and improve games rather than just make them look prettier.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Seriously people I don't know how many of these I need to convey how much I want to facepalm at the people in this thread and a bit at the OP for not making the joke more obvious. So I shall spoiler them as it borders on bbcode abuse.

Spoiler: Just so people know I am not calling you stupid. I just copy and pasted image urls I did not make them or their message they are only here for Facepalms. Also beware when clicking this some might consider it overkill.

So anyway bottom line is that this is a joke stop taking it seriously.

 

[Zefar]

Games having to install before you can play them. I don't need to name examples
Some might need to be but most of the time, installing only made the game load faster. Software is software. This might also be crucial on how to make a game work.


Games needing patches to work properly. As if I'm running Windows 2000 and it's made for 9x
It was easier to code 2D games back in the old days rather than these full blown 3D games. PC had nothing to do with it.


Pointless graphics options. Why should I need to select whether I want V-sync? You're built for a console, just be what's best
V-sync actually removes screen tearing and on PC it's a lovely feature. Something almost every console game can't have these days. As it's too demanding. Guess people got used to crap.


Games not working on certain hardware versions. God of War, you started it
Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Odysses and many more are the root of the problem. PC made one platform that can be upgraded over time. Consoles do not. So we have nothing to do with it.

Software as a service pricing models. No, I don't want to pay monthly or for specific features

While MMORPG have had this fee it's because they are large and the games where free to download. Xbox live on the other hand was the thing that started all of this. Blame it on consoles.


Everything being brown[/B]. Because I want to blame this arbitrarily on PCs
It started with Far Cry 2 what I can tell and GTA4 also did it. Both being heavily centered to console. PC had nothing to do with this.

My sense of irony just wants to redress some balance. I'm not out to blame anyone. Can't we all just get along?

Get along? You're asking to much here.

*Que for people thinking I'm dead serious with this post.*

 

[BoogieManFL]

Everything you just said is more about the evolution and requirements of modern gaming. None of that is a result of PC gaming.

As far as being a "joke post" please don't waste our time. There is enough idiocy on the internet without some of it being deliberate.

 

[Stavros Dimou]

Games having to install before you can play them. I don't need to name examples

That's not a problem caused by pcs.
That happens because a hard drive transfers data to the processor much faster than a dvd or cd. Since consoles started having hard discs,developers found ways to use them.
If you dislike that,blame Microsoft for building Xbox.

Games needing patches to work properly. As if I'm running Windows 2000 and it's made for 9x

Again,it's not a fault of pc gaming.
It's because publishers are skimpy and don't want to spend cash on game testers,so they skip their quality control and make their costumers do this job since they expect you to go to their forums and report bugs. That way instead of paying for someone to do that job,they actually get the job done and are getting paid for it. It's corporational greediness not pcs that are responsible for this...

Pointless graphics options. Why should I need to select whether I want V-sync? You're built for a console, just be what's best

Have they really started putting graphics options in console games ? I didn't knew that,but I guess you are right.

Games not working on certain hardware versions. God of War, you started it

Haven't played GoW so I can't comment on that.

Software as a service pricing models. No, I don't want to pay monthly or for specific features

Except a few MMORPGS you don't have to pay any monthly fee for anything in pc gaming.
Actually the opposite happens.
If I buy a copy of an FPS game and I have an internet connection,I can play online without paying any kind of subscription like Xbox Live or PSN.
Paying for extra features and/or monthly fees are things that trended with the current console generation,and they weren't spread in pcs before that.

Everything being brown. Because I want to blame this arbitrarily on PCs

No comment.

My sense of irony just wants to redress some balance. I'm not out to blame anyone. Can't we all just get along?

Sure things should be balanced,but don't think that because I replied to your points in such a fashion I wouldn't do the same for someone who would blame consoles for destroying pc gaming.

What's destroying gaming is the fact that developers become copycats,and publishers skimpier.
Developers usually afraid to try something different and most of the time goes with the herd.
What's killing innovation is that when a game comes out and make some good sales,developers will rush to copy and adapt one or two features this game had,thinking that by copying these two features in their game,their game will also sell good.
But they fail to see that there are no panaceas in this world,and a feature or two doesn't make a good game.
Publishers pressure developers to make games faster because they care more for quantity instead of quality.So we end up with games that last less,and that come with a number of bugs that developers didn't had time to fix. They also force developers to cut out features and content from games so they can then sell them as extra dlc.




Greediness,copycat-ing,and fear to try new things are killing video games.

 

[Durananrananrananran]

Seriously people I don't know how many of these I need to convey how much I want to facepalm at the people in this thread and a bit at the OP for not making the joke more obvious.

Facepalm, at me? I thought the video was going to make it really obvious, but I guess I was wrong. Whatever you do, some people are not going to get it.

Thank you to the people who did get it and said something nice, or if you got it and didn't find it funny, thank you still for getting it.

I have this urge to point out that non-sequitur means 'does not follow' and is used when one step in an argument does not logically follow from the preceding one. It does not mean 'thing that does not make sense' or 'thing that is not true'. I just wanted to point that out.

Everything you just said is more about the evolution and requirements of modern gaming. None of that is a result of PC gaming.

As far as being a "joke post" please don't waste our time. There is enough idiocy on the internet without some of it being deliberate.

Sorry for wasting your time, and the time of the community around you. I can see there is a lot of idiocy on the internet, and sorry for adding to it.

Can't tell if dumb or trolling.

Neither. I was trying to make a point using humour and subtlety. Of course, people would read it and reply to the thread, that's kind of the point of forums, but does that make it trolling? If that's what trolling means nowadays, I'm sorry. Back in the olden days trolling was a really nasty thing, where you deliberately attacked someone just to get a reaction. Like insulting their parents, or religion. If trolling now just means posting something you realise might go over some people's heads, I apologise to the forum.

 

[Elsarild]

Seriously people I don't know how many of these I need to convey how much I want to facepalm at the people in this thread and a bit at the OP for not making the joke more obvious.

Facepalm, at me? I thought the video was going to make it really obvious, but I guess I was wrong. Whatever you do, some people are not going to get it.

Thank you to the people who did get it and said something nice, or if you got it and didn't find it funny, thank you still for getting it.

I have this urge to point out that non-sequitur means 'does not follow' and is used when one step in an argument does not logically follow from the preceding one. It does not mean 'thing that does not make sense' or 'thing that is not true'. I just wanted to point that out.

Everything you just said is more about the evolution and requirements of modern gaming. None of that is a result of PC gaming.

As far as being a "joke post" please don't waste our time. There is enough idiocy on the internet without some of it being deliberate.

Sorry for wasting your time, and the time of the community around you. I can see there is a lot of idiocy on the internet, and sorry for adding to it.

Can't tell if dumb or trolling.

Neither. I was trying to make a point using humour and subtlety. Of course, people would read it and reply to the thread, that's kind of the point of forums, but does that make it trolling? If that's what trolling means nowadays, I'm sorry. Back in the olden days trolling was a really nasty thing, where you deliberately attacked someone just to get a reaction. Like insulting their parents, or religion. If trolling now just means posting something you realise might go over some people's heads, I apologise to the forum.

So in the end you where making the worst joke ever, congratulations, now close this down and walk off.

And to make an addition to my previous post, you chose dumb, this post was not needed in any way shape or form.