cerealnmuffin said:
DoPo said:
cerealnmuffin said:
So when a baby is brought out, I feel pressured to act like I care. I feel like Elaine from Seinfeld when she is around babies. Who else?
Consider this - maybe it's
everybody. Nobody actually likes them but they all have to pretend in order not to make the others think they are weird. That would certainly be ironic. Or whatever it would be.
So it is like that modern art with two squares or all one solid color? Everyone in the room tries to act like it is deep but in their heads, they are thinking that it is garbage.
Also I don't get why celebrity baby photos rack in millions of dollars. Wow, they just did something that has been done billions of times over. Actually, doing a yoyo trick is far more impressive than giving birth as it hasn't been done nearly as much. Now if they gave birth to cthulu...
By all means, you should be in no way forced to do something you don't want to. Not everyone has the same urges...
But don't make light of pregnancy. Despite all that can be achieved with modern medicine, it's still a high risk event for both Mother and Child. You may not want to have kids, but don't disrespect those that endure nine months of discomfort and anxiety with an excruciatingly painful crescendo, simply because you are disinterested in it yourself.
Dopo was likely kidding about that. No one who is mentally sound would possibly consider having multiple children simply to uphold some superficial social standard. They do it out of a very strong maternal instinct (again, not everyone will feel this way). In fact, men can very often feel a similar urge (distinct from the urge to screw around), where they indeed want to have kids of their own. I personally have been having this urge for some time now.
Though I don't have a huge fascination with children myself, the idea of having a small part of me carrying over to a new generation is kinda comforting. And when I think of the relationship I have with my Dad right now, It heartens me to think of having a similar relationship with another some day. To carry a child from birth to adulthood seems like an extremely tough journey, but having another person to talk to, the same way I talk to my dad now, is very encouraging. I hope my Dad is around for that time, since 3 generations of a family having such stirring conversations is an incredibly heart-warming thought.
Also, Toddlers are well fun to be around... I love the really curious ones since I myself am a highly curious adult. When a child phrases a question that seems so mundane and basic, it's weird how I have to take a step back and figure out how to explain certain higher concepts to a kid. I enjoy this regressive experience. It helps that they think I'm some sort of genius too... so easy to get admiration from a child.
That said, I'm in no position to have a family at the moment. I'm currently single, have a pathetic income and am currently dealing with issues with my current family. I'm hoping that before I'm 30 I will have a kid, though I'm not setting it as a goal. Forcing these things to happen only causes problems.
Going back a few paragraphs: Speaking of Mentally sound, there is an opposite side of the spectrum to you... women who have an uncontrollable urge to reproduce. These women can be described as having an "addiction" to pregnancy. It can be so bad for some that it's detrimental to their health (and a major burden on loved ones).
Finally, I can't blame someone for not having a desire to have kids. The thought of childbirth is terrifying even to me and I don't have to worry about the act myself. But I think someone not having a desire to have kids would be a dealbreaker for me. It doesn't have to be by natural birth... being adopted myself means I'm up for other avenues. But kids are on the cards for my life and a relationship where that won't/can't happen is not something I want to be in.
Sorry for the life story, this is a topic I think about often, but have no one to discuss it with.
Bara_no_Hime said:
cerealnmuffin said:
Yeah, I pretty much hate babies too. Horrible little parasites.
Other than my kid, I mean.
I actually find them more tolerable when they get to be toddlers. At least those begin to react like actual human beings rather than angry monkeys.
Actually, what I find fascinating is that other people seem to get excited about my kid. Random strangers will come up to me and chat about my infant. It's kinda creepy, actually....
Edit: Oh, and just FYI - I absolutely refuse to take my infant to restaurants. I HATE when parents bring infants to restaurants - the kid can't enjoy it, and they make dinner unpleasant for everyone else there, so why are those parents being assholes?
Me - no. If I want to eat out, I either A) get Takeout so that I can eat the same food at home without subjecting a group of strangers to my potentially crying child, or B) I get a fucking Baby Sitter to watch my kid while I'm out.
From my experience, it depends on the restaurant. I remember as a child we (me and my sis) would be taking to the same pizza place on special nights out. It was run by 1 man with an assistant chef and 1 waitress. Small and quaint. My Mum would later tell me it was the only place they would take us, because of how settled we would be there.
What's really charming about this is that, 15-20 years on and we still go there on occassions. The manager is still there though he is due retirement soon. There was an 8 year gap where the place closed, but when it re-opened he remembered who we were and gave me and my sister free pizzas (even though we were paying for ourselves).
Some places are just unpleasant for kids, others can be a joy and a good memory to boot. It might require some experimenting, but you shouldn't give up on taking your kids out to eat. I wouldn't bring a 1-3 year old out though, they are more prone to tantrums regardless of the environment. Toddlers and up will love been taken out.
Just don't give in to taken them to McDonalds or Burger King. Keep them off that shit.
EDIT: Emphasis on "from my experience", this isn't advice, just an attempt at some encouragement.