I don't trust Valve anymore.

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Nikolaz72

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Wait? So he got punished for not giving something back he stole? Well i guess thats fair. For the people that has been unfairly banned for scamming i say the same as with the Anti-Piracy DRMS. Its the people who do scamming's fault that those who dont sometimes gets unjustly punished. Point your rage at them and not at valve.
 

Ze_Reaper_Of_Zeath

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I loved Valve, with all my joy, but Valve, please don't make the sets hatbased.

Please, just because the guy next to me, has about 20 bucks to spare for a hat, he gets bonuses. I've lost my intrest in it, because TF2 has become a bit unbalanced.
 

Aphex Demon

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What is this whole trading system and new items thing? I played it up until the player updates in which we had the choice of different items equipped, now there is a trading side of things!? Woah, sweet.

OT: Valve can sometimes be like that, I rememeber with people who used Aimbots on CSS they had a 0% Tolerence ban, therefore you were unable to negotiate the ban, which tbh seems all well and good, but I recall some people just having programs running in the background and VAC would pic it up as a hack.
 

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jackpipsam said:
Valve lost me when they stoped updating Half-Life 2 deathmatch
It is still being updated, kinda. Whenever Counter Strike: Source gets an update it's normally engine-related, so HL2: Deathmatch gets the same treatment.
 

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Nuclear_Suspect said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Wait, so you don't like optional microtransactions, hats that actually do things and an optional trading system to get the stuff you've been missing for ages? Of course there's going to be a few hiccups at first. Remember the wrongful COD6 bans? It all got fixed in the end, give them time.
Exactly, I for one like Valve even more now, not only do we get a bunch of free content... but the 5 people who made the 'Polycount Pack' got 25% of the money it earned... 25% = 47.000$... FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS! each... how can you not love someone who gives credit to the creative community by paying them such an amount of money?
that adds to 125% of the profit, may want to revisit the math.
 

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These oversized countermeasures seem to be rising fad among game studios. Losing your whole account for misconduct / cheat / hack in one game?
 

Smooth Operator

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Ya this Steam business is quite iffy, when it works well it's all very convenient, but when shit hits the fan you just might loose all your stuff.
Altho I have the Orange Box I don't use Steam due to what happened to my neighbor, he bought a bunch of games on Steam and his account got "hacked" allegedly, and he couldn't get it back even after weeks of negotiations with the Steam help center, lost all his newest games in one swoop...

They really need alot more redundancy built in for this, when you pay for something it hasto be dead certain it's yours, and doesn't just get deleted when the mood strikes an admin.
 

Mechsoap

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well he traded the hat for something he wanted in return, now that he regrets doing it, is a part of life. So beat it. Reporting someone for a fair trade is hardly justified.
 

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Ze_Reaper_Of_Zeath said:
I loved Valve, with all my joy, but Valve, please don't make the sets hatbased.

Please, just because the guy next to me, has about 20 bucks to spare for a hat, he gets bonuses. I've lost my intrest in it, because TF2 has become a bit unbalanced.
I see the set bonuses as semi balanced. Snipers are immune to headshots, but cannot actually fire headshots themselves. Pyros are faster and slightly more vulnerable, the spy loses his ability to disguise on a whim for quieter uncloak.

It isn't that horribly unbalanced.
 

Ramin 123

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Well I would be a PC gamer only for the amount of bollocks they have to go through to play the game that THEY bought. Steam is the most useless bloody application I've seen in a right while. I don't see why Steam should tell me when I can and cannot play a game, that seems completely stupid to me. Don't even get me start on the DRM.

I really want to buy that Amnesia Game but to get it off Steam...I think not.
 

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Ramin 123 said:
Well I would be a PC gamer only for the amount of bollocks they have to go through to play the game that THEY bought. Steam is the most useless bloody application I've seen in a right while. I don't see why Steam should tell me when I can and cannot play a game, that seems completely stupid to me. Don't even get me start on the DRM.

I really want to buy that Amnesia Game but to get it off Steam...I think not.
Ive never really liked the software itself, Does it still do that stupid thing where it goes back to the old platform, unpacks all the updates then reupdates? It did that ALL the time.

Here is a prime example.

 

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hopeneverdies said:
Ze_Reaper_Of_Zeath said:
I loved Valve, with all my joy, but Valve, please don't make the sets hatbased.

Please, just because the guy next to me, has about 20 bucks to spare for a hat, he gets bonuses. I've lost my intrest in it, because TF2 has become a bit unbalanced.
I see the set bonuses as semi balanced. Snipers are immune to headshots, but cannot actually fire headshots themselves. Pyros are faster and slightly more vulnerable, the spy loses his ability to disguise on a whim for quieter uncloak.

It isn't that horribly unbalanced.
I've said it before, it doesn't matter how balanced the changes are, if you make the strategic options hard to get/give rare items gameplay changing effects. It's not right, each round should be a level playing field, easy to acquire items are fine(ish) and hats are fine when the don't change strategy.
Ramin 123 said:
I don't see why Steam should tell me when I can and cannot play a game, that seems completely stupid to me. Don't even get me start on the DRM.
You just did start on the DRM. Your whole post was about the DRM.
 

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Aphex Demon said:
Ramin 123 said:
Well I would be a PC gamer only for the amount of bollocks they have to go through to play the game that THEY bought. Steam is the most useless bloody application I've seen in a right while. I don't see why Steam should tell me when I can and cannot play a game, that seems completely stupid to me. Don't even get me start on the DRM.

I really want to buy that Amnesia Game but to get it off Steam...I think not.
Ive never really liked the software itself, Does it still do that stupid thing where it goes back to the old platform, unpacks all the updates then reupdates? It did that ALL the time.

Here is a prime example.

lol that looks like it alright. I don't know man, I haven't played PC games since the old COD2 days so all of this new stuff is totally over my head :O

Against my better judgement I am going to buy the game...let's pray Steam doesn't screw it up like haha
 

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Aphex Demon said:
Mikeyfell said:
as long as Valve delivers Portal 2 and HL2E3 they still have my loyalty
Yeah, I cant wait for that game :D

Scarecrow 8 said:
I think that you may be forgeting that valve made the best game ever.
THE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEMAAN
No, THE POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL.
 

Heart of Darkness

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You know, I can see where you're coming from. Banning users from playing a game that they bought with their own money over details that can be fictionalized doesn't exactly seem like a customer-friendly business model. Sure, it makes sense for Valve, as they would get more money from you if you open up another Steam account, but it doesn't make sense to ban an entire account over an incident in one game. I haven't really liked this model ever since I learned that Valve sells games as services, not products, which runs counter-intuitive to how I've purchased games since I was four years old.

I'm not a big fan of the Mann-conomy update, either, mainly because it's starting to belie Valve as a customer friendly developer, and one that's starting to develop EA-like tendencies. Not to mention that some of the Polycount upgrades seem more like upgrades rather than sidegrades, creating a system that favors either the lucky or the extremely wealthy. And not to mention the supply crates, which can only be opened with a key that can only be purchased from the store...
 
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SL33TBL1ND said:
Wait, so you don't like optional microtransactions, hats that actually do things and an optional trading system to get the stuff you've been missing for ages? Of course there's going to be a few hiccups at first. Remember the wrongful COD6 bans? It all got fixed in the end, give them time.
The only point I don't agree with what you're trying to make is that hates should affect gameplay. They aesthetic nonesense which is part of what TF2 is about but they should not affect gameplay in way they do in polycount pack.
 

LondonBeer

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Erm he can still play titles offline. Multiplayer game elements are not guaranteed on purchase you pay for singleplayer.
 

brucelee13245

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Personally im glad they are so harsh on people. It isn't like they are banning innocent players, they are banning SCAMMERS, tho yes, this man wasn't exactly scamming he was being an overall unlikeable person. Tho i think this whole hat business is stupid, if it involves some sort of real money, scamming is scamming. To be honest with you, if i had my choice, all hackers in mw2 would all be in Guantanamo bay right now :mad: and their computers would go to the starving kids in africa.
 

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Glademaster said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Wait, so you don't like optional microtransactions, hats that actually do things and an optional trading system to get the stuff you've been missing for ages? Of course there's going to be a few hiccups at first. Remember the wrongful COD6 bans? It all got fixed in the end, give them time.
The only point I don't agree with what you're trying to make is that hates should affect gameplay. They aesthetic nonesense which is part of what TF2 is about but they should not affect gameplay in way they do in polycount pack.
It's not like they're providing an unbalanced bonus. But I can see why you wouldn't want them to. To each their own.