Well no they're not that bad I mean the bonus could be worse and non set reliant.SL33TBL1ND said:
I don't trust Valve anymore.
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What are you on about? The topic is discussing the ban of some person scamming someone out of an item in TF2 and the harsh punishment that followed, not Valve believing rage induced reports from random douchebags.iLikeHippos said:
Working in the games industry I can tell you that people do not get their accounts banned for no reason. Investigations are launched into flagged accounts if the account meets the criteria it is banned - if the player requests it another investigation is launched, if it supports the first ban then your account is closed forever with no hope but often the ban gets seen as being harsh and that you've learned your lesson and it gets overturned. Companies like Valve and even smaller ones like Riot who support online gaming have an obligation to protect their player base from cheaters and the most effective way of doing this is by banning those who cheat or exploit weaknesses in the system.
I don't know exactly their policies on it but I imagine they give a warning first and then a ban - anything else is bad business practice.
I don't know exactly their policies on it but I imagine they give a warning first and then a ban - anything else is bad business practice.
I said my outright opinion over the topic, and what I think will happen. Even the OP has one.philosophicalbastard said:
Why not contribute and share?
I was just making sure that you didn't read it wrong and raged for no reason.iLikeHippos said:
I still believe valve is one of the greatest developers out there, and any mistakes they make will surely be corrected given their record.
Yeah...Even my favourite video game company isn't beyond at least a little bullshit it seems.
Do what I do. Don't trust anyone. It works wonders.
*sticks on tin foil hat*
Do what I do. Don't trust anyone. It works wonders.
*sticks on tin foil hat*
Nope, but it SURE as hell means that, even if I was a terrible BASTARD in every online game I have on steam that I suddenly lose the right to play all those other games at all.starfox444 said:
I mean, I own three games on steam that I never realized relied on Steamworks to begin with. Most recently New Vegas. If I grief and cheat in TF2, fine I get banned. Water under the bridge. Expected result. But if I grief and cheat in TF2 I suddenly don't get to play my Single Player Game where I can only grief and cheat against some silly math problems?
Yeah, banning an entire Steam account over TF2 item scamming seems like a pretty bad decision, buisnesswise and playerwise.
On the other hand, it is an excellent deterrent - if it's commonly expected that Valve will remove your access to ALL of your games for scamming in one of them, well, who'd take that risk?
On the other hand, it is an excellent deterrent - if it's commonly expected that Valve will remove your access to ALL of your games for scamming in one of them, well, who'd take that risk?
Seems a bit extreme to me. At least he got his account back which means Valve looked into the problem.
Noting that this is a relatively old post, how exactly would one update Half-Life Deathmatch? Not a whole lot to change in a game specifically designed for deathmatch rounds, or at least it would seem that way.jackpipsam said:
I have my own annoyances with Steam, but mostly they seem to do right. I still think licenses for games should be transferable from one account to the next, but they've made a strong point to steer away from the ultra-dick-moves, like charging a subscription fee, requiring a continuous connection for single-player activity, or limiting installations.
I suspect that the current incident(s) with the Mann-conomy are part of its growing pains. We saw similar problems with Steam in general with the release of Half-Life 2. These days, with maybe the exception off Stardock's Impulse, it's the most ethically responsible of the online distribution clients available.
Don't expect any better from Activison or EA, to be sure.
I suspect that the current incident(s) with the Mann-conomy are part of its growing pains. We saw similar problems with Steam in general with the release of Half-Life 2. These days, with maybe the exception off Stardock's Impulse, it's the most ethically responsible of the online distribution clients available.
Don't expect any better from Activison or EA, to be sure.
The two things that erk me are that you're given free crates that are just screaming at you to spend money to open them, and that the polycount pack needs hats to get the extra bonus.
And the bonuses aren't always balanced mind you. Scout's get an extra 25 hp. No downside.
Snipers are immune to headshots. No downside.
Soldiers get 20% damage resistance from sentries. No downside.
Pyro's get a speed boost, almost on a scout's level now. I was running away from one today in a hallway and THE PYRO CAUGHT UP WITH A SCOUT RUNNING AWAY. Then an airblast or two and you're screwed. They become slightly more vulnerable to bullet damage but that speed boost far outweighs that.
And the bonuses aren't always balanced mind you. Scout's get an extra 25 hp. No downside.
Snipers are immune to headshots. No downside.
Soldiers get 20% damage resistance from sentries. No downside.
Pyro's get a speed boost, almost on a scout's level now. I was running away from one today in a hallway and THE PYRO CAUGHT UP WITH A SCOUT RUNNING AWAY. Then an airblast or two and you're screwed. They become slightly more vulnerable to bullet damage but that speed boost far outweighs that.
This is why you shouldn't put all your games(eggs) in one service(basket). Its also why I am pissed at more and more games exclusively using Steam.
What happened to that guy sucks, and banning someone over accusations is crap. However perhaps they banned his account temporarily to investigate. If he was suspected of scamming, Valve probably banned him to avoid more people getting scammed.
What happened to that guy sucks, and banning someone over accusations is crap. However perhaps they banned his account temporarily to investigate. If he was suspected of scamming, Valve probably banned him to avoid more people getting scammed.
The reason I don't trust valve anymore... is because of the whole "we are taking over DOTA" DOTA is blizzards realm and it is a community project that is open source and free. I hope blizzard takes this away from them and leaves it in the hands of the players and the community where it belongs. If they charge for it, ill no longer buy valve games. (i know, an empty threat that they wouldnt care about, but I don't care)