I don't understand griefing
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That has to be the best analogy I have ever seen about anything ever...Redweaver said:
I care about the dipshit wasting my time. He thinks it's hilarious to pop in and ruin other peoples fun with the "Its Jest a Gamez guyz! CHILL! U MAD!!1 LOL!". Yes, it is just a game but you're gonna get yourself an ass kicking if you run onto a football field and grab the ball.
Basically, it's the cowards way of ruining other peoples fun.
Ever been to Club Caprice in Champions Online?
Well, let's just say some people deserve to be griefed.
Well, let's just say some people deserve to be griefed.
IF you must know im a Troll i join games see whats going on then i make my move. DO you want to know why i wait its because i wait for the stupid people who only play games for kill when there is an objective then immeditly when they lose say "geez guys get on the point! gah noobs" If i troll you then you deserve it for acting like a moron. Also using the word "noob" will result in me picking on you i will go out of my way to make you Rage quit. Also i troll because im normally better that you an so i can.tippy2k2 said:
Why is it fun? Well, just look at this:
Now do that yourself. Notice the intense amount of lulz it generates to crush a camper's skull with a helicopter. There's your answer.
Now do that yourself. Notice the intense amount of lulz it generates to crush a camper's skull with a helicopter. There's your answer.
Isn't that nice and conceited?FalloutJack said:
People play games for different reasons. Some play because they like to socialize. Some play because they like winning. Some play because they like messing with people who take the game too seriously.
When somebody is taking a silly game more seriously than the death of their mother, it's fun to try to give them a reality check: It's a game. The person being trolled ends up getting so frustrated with the situation they say things like "I hope you die" or "I'm going to kill you" or anything equally uncalled-for. The absurdity of the situation calls for laughter, and laughter is addicting. The hilarity is at least doubled with the addition of voice chat.
Or maybe people who are entertained by means outside of monotony are just dumb. I wrote a whole paragraph, are you proud of me daddy? -__-
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Griefers and trolls are assholes. They are the equivalent of high-school bullies. You know the type. Idiots with pathetic lives and crappy homes who think the only way to make themselves feel better is to make everyone else miserable. Real bottom-feeding scum.
Oh, and I don't care what lame excuse they, or anyone so far in this thread, give. I don't care if you insist, "It's just a game bro! Chill.". It doesn't excuse your actions. You're being a dick. Not to mention a coward. If there were any chance your actions could have real-world consequences, I guarantee you'd be too afraid to grief anyone.
The only time, and I do mean the only time, I can excuse griefing is when it's someone getting back at someone else who's being a jerk in game. Essentially, giving someone who is ruining the game for others a taste of their own medicine.
The person doing the vengeful griefing is still being a ass, but at least it's towards someone else who's also being an ass.
Oh, and I don't care what lame excuse they, or anyone so far in this thread, give. I don't care if you insist, "It's just a game bro! Chill.". It doesn't excuse your actions. You're being a dick. Not to mention a coward. If there were any chance your actions could have real-world consequences, I guarantee you'd be too afraid to grief anyone.
The only time, and I do mean the only time, I can excuse griefing is when it's someone getting back at someone else who's being a jerk in game. Essentially, giving someone who is ruining the game for others a taste of their own medicine.
The person doing the vengeful griefing is still being a ass, but at least it's towards someone else who's also being an ass.
Exactly.Redweaver said:
Clearly, you believe that being an ass online is a legitimate form of entertainment. Nice job proving my point. There is no reason for being a pain in the ass to others for pleasure that can be considered wise and thoughtful. You may now leave me be as there is nothing left to be said.Faladorian said:
I play on a raid server on minecraft, people who log in to this server are able to join factions or create them, when they think their faction is strong enough they can attack other factions on this server griefing is allowed. However, when a faction claims land as theirs it cannot be griefed unless the members of the faction die multiple times from mobs or from enemy factions. When their power number goes negative (in a range of -10/10) a faction with more power (10/10) is able to claim their land and do whatever they please with it.
When my faction raids we loot and then pour lava on everything else (fire doesn't spread nor do explosives damage terrain). Yes they can have their land back, they're just gonna need some buckets
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ON TOPIC
I grief in the circumstances of the person was being as ass in the first place, I also do it because it's the funniest shit ever
When my faction raids we loot and then pour lava on everything else (fire doesn't spread nor do explosives damage terrain). Yes they can have their land back, they're just gonna need some buckets
.ON TOPIC
I grief in the circumstances of the person was being as ass in the first place, I also do it because it's the funniest shit ever
I am attempting to figure out what you wanted to say in that sentence...(read your post before throwing it up, there are typos and issues all over the place, especially that last sentence). Granted, your statement could also be an attempt at satire and I just don't realize it...Sigma Van Lockheart said:
If I'm reading it correctly, you only troll people who you think take the game too seriously? So in order to get them to stop taking it seriously, you decide to ruin the experience for everyone (if it's a team game, you are ruining it for everyone. Your team is handicapped and the opponent gets a boring game since the other team is so fractured)?
Because it's fun, and it often garners an entertaining reaction from players so insane and obsessed with their game that they pretty much deserve it. Let me give you a good example.
Some time early last year, a friend of mine was telling a bunch of us about how a guy we knew was a fussy, whiney "it's all mine and you can't play with any of it" player on a Minecraft server run by a friend of his (friend of the guy who told us, not of mr whiney-poo). Some examples of this guy playing in a way that was ruining the game on that server far more than griefing ever would included:
*Building a wooden wall around an enormous area and basically declaring that he was not to be bothered by such petty things as other players in a multiplayer game where sharing resources and living together is encouraged. If he was, you'd be chased out with a sword
*Basically having it so that anything he saw was immediately his possession (In a cave full of plentiful spiders, he killed one and my friend accidentally picked up the web. He wouldn't stop bitching at him to give it to him, when he could've easily just gotten some more)
*Having OCD about his house and possessions to the point where he tried to kill my friend for taking one torch from his house (admittedly my friend was just trying to provoke him after all the shit he'd already done, but it's one friggin' torch)
Upon hearing this, we immediately began planning "Operation: Troll the wranga" (hey, nothing against orange hair, but a silly operation designed to piss somebody with orange hair off needed such a name). We planned, in conjuction with the admin, to go into the game together at the same time dressed in a troll-face skin (what?) and, from admin powers, burn his precious little complex down with lava and TNT, then post pictures of the destruction to the guy's facebook. It was lulzy, and by Christ was he pissed.
But on the flip-side, when it's not used for any sort of just or justified reason it can be a bit annoying (but not to the point where I'd be so butt-hurt that I'd, say, start a thread lashing out at griefers, or do just that by thinly disguising it by saying that "I don't understand griefing"). After the operation we began playing Minecraft together alot more, always setting up servers and playing together when we had the time. On one of thee servers we lived peacefully together in a village in a house we'd built together, sharing resources and having a blast. At one point (and I think it was over a matter of some glass that was accidentally taken out of a furnace and used) one of my friends got really peeved, built a different house to sulk in, and then after a while of mutually shared jabs at each other about being a sulk and "stealing" glass this jaded friend went and burned the house down that we all shared. That was annoying because it was three hours of, dare-I-say, work and cooperation, all lost over such a silly matter.
In the end, after he realised what he'd done he ended up apologising profusely later over Facebook, and we forgave him. We played without a hitch onwards after that.
Some time early last year, a friend of mine was telling a bunch of us about how a guy we knew was a fussy, whiney "it's all mine and you can't play with any of it" player on a Minecraft server run by a friend of his (friend of the guy who told us, not of mr whiney-poo). Some examples of this guy playing in a way that was ruining the game on that server far more than griefing ever would included:
*Building a wooden wall around an enormous area and basically declaring that he was not to be bothered by such petty things as other players in a multiplayer game where sharing resources and living together is encouraged. If he was, you'd be chased out with a sword
*Basically having it so that anything he saw was immediately his possession (In a cave full of plentiful spiders, he killed one and my friend accidentally picked up the web. He wouldn't stop bitching at him to give it to him, when he could've easily just gotten some more)
*Having OCD about his house and possessions to the point where he tried to kill my friend for taking one torch from his house (admittedly my friend was just trying to provoke him after all the shit he'd already done, but it's one friggin' torch)
Upon hearing this, we immediately began planning "Operation: Troll the wranga" (hey, nothing against orange hair, but a silly operation designed to piss somebody with orange hair off needed such a name). We planned, in conjuction with the admin, to go into the game together at the same time dressed in a troll-face skin (what?) and, from admin powers, burn his precious little complex down with lava and TNT, then post pictures of the destruction to the guy's facebook. It was lulzy, and by Christ was he pissed.
But on the flip-side, when it's not used for any sort of just or justified reason it can be a bit annoying (but not to the point where I'd be so butt-hurt that I'd, say, start a thread lashing out at griefers, or do just that by thinly disguising it by saying that "I don't understand griefing"). After the operation we began playing Minecraft together alot more, always setting up servers and playing together when we had the time. On one of thee servers we lived peacefully together in a village in a house we'd built together, sharing resources and having a blast. At one point (and I think it was over a matter of some glass that was accidentally taken out of a furnace and used) one of my friends got really peeved, built a different house to sulk in, and then after a while of mutually shared jabs at each other about being a sulk and "stealing" glass this jaded friend went and burned the house down that we all shared. That was annoying because it was three hours of, dare-I-say, work and cooperation, all lost over such a silly matter.
In the end, after he realised what he'd done he ended up apologising profusely later over Facebook, and we forgave him. We played without a hitch onwards after that.
Well it was a rushed post so I did not bother to check it. Anyway for better understanding the game I was thinking about at the time was TF2 I should have mentioned that and no I watch the game in spectator mode for a bit to find that players who don?t help the team you know those 9 snipers when you are attacking or the medic who only heals 1 person on his team I will then attack these players aiming to dominate them and just to be a dick I throw it things like "lol you sux" and " Hmm this guy is pretty stupid i think he might be a bot"tippy2k2 said:
Some people are twats. I can kinda see how it's funny in a games like CoD, because it's all quite inconsequential, but in Minecraft it's a giant dickmove to grief someone's work.
I kind of get it. I don't do it online though, or to people I don't know (with friends who know I'm just having a laugh, I do). Sometimes its just fun to observe how angry people can get. Yeah, its douchey, but we've all got those tendencies from time to time.