I hate being white....

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Crazycat690

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Well, you shouldn't actually, it's nothing for you to put much thought in, you had nothing to do with it, and can't change it. If you're grandfather was a rapist, it wouldn't make you a rapist right? There is no reason to feel ashamed of what your race have done in the past.

And hey, if that's what you're worried about, evolution is taking revenge on the white race, mostly because it's us who sit on all the money and technology in the world and don't want to share, it's making us lazy, unhealthy and just genetically bad. Give evolution a few thousand years and I guess there won't be a pure white race left, or they will atleast have become a minority. It's large scale karma, if you go around screwing everyone over you will end up badly, person or race, just take the ancient romans as an example, they took over half the world, but their greed led to their downfall.

So you can do three things, 1. don't care or worry about it 2. be depressed over it for the rest of your life 3. be aware of it, and try and be a better person, charity? Anything. However, you don't want to be depressed about it, that's your problem right? So just live with it, get over it I say! How? Well take up a new hobby, pursue love, I recommend painting, helps me when I'm feeling down. And you're a girl? Maybe just give it a cry? Just express your emotions in some way, paint, write or do, whatever you do, just make sure you get over it, get past the bad thoughts and emotions.
 

qazmatoz

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Valis88 said:
((Forward: I'm not flame bating, I'm not trolling...This a a real opinion that I carry in my mind. I've seen some really good debates about race and culture here. I thought I'd bring my own feelings to the table.))

I do. I hate it. I hate that North American white culture is so shallow and stupid. I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I hate my hazel eyes, my pale skin, and my blonde hair. I look at myself and i see a monster.

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

Yes yes I know 'Why is she saying all of this?' but what I want to know is...Am I alone in feeling this way? is anyone else as hurt and sad as I am about being white?

Also, well, what can I do to bring myself out of this? Can I bring myself out of this?

Should I?

You're turn...
Oh you're white? You've never been called a half-breed, a mongrel, a *****, a gook, or been made fun of for having slanted eyes? Awesome, good for you. Get over yourself or join a minority advocacy group. Also see a therapist more.
 

Wintermoot

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get over it! unless you are rich you can,t change your race.
Simply put the past behind you and take some pride in the fact YOU are a good person.
 

Pappytech

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This. Is. Facepalm.

Here's the way I see the world: races aren't evil, people are. Yes, there have been white people who did bad things. Just like there have been Asian, Black, Hispanic, and every other race out there who have done bad things. You can't say, "Oh look, some American's once owned slaves. Therefore, every American ever is evil." You CAN say "Oh look, some American's once owned slaves. Let's try to learn from their mistakes and improve ourselves."

Another point: What has whining like this ever accomplished? Don't deny it, you are whining. Why? What do you think will happen if you complain about this on the internet? Like so many other people have said, stop whining and actually go do something. If you feel so bad about what other people did, then go start a charity or something that helps minorities.

Finally, yes, I'm white. Born in America, raised there, living there currently. And I don't feel an once of guilt for it. Do I feel sorry for people who don't have the opportunites I've been given? Of course I do, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to take advantage of them. I have a chance to do something epic with my life, not because I'm white, but because I'm going to use what I've got and what I can get to make myself the best I can possibly be.

And you know what? So do you.
 

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Croaker42 said:
King Toasty said:
Deal with it. You're the most privileged person ever to live, in any time period, in all of history. Suck it up.
/This

That or give it all away to these "superior" native races and live as you think you deserve to.
Instead of doing something stupid and useless, why don't you recognize that by an accident of your birth you're the recipient of an almost sickening amount of privilege and bias generally in your favor. Try to move past that and don't get so hung up on your white guilt. Your guilt improves nothing and generally just widens the gap to empathy with others.

Let's face it: Racism is still an issue and still runs deep, even if it's not as bad as it was before the civil liberties movement. There are plenty of insensitive comments in the thread already if you need proof of that. It's probably not possible to eliminate the social pressures that distort privilege along racial lines in our lifetime, but if no one tries to move past those feelings and convenient misconceptions then it will never be possible.

King Toasty said:
Deal with it. You're the most privileged person ever to live, in any time period, in all of history. Suck it up.
Hey! Valis could be a woman!
 

Haakmed

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Step one. Getting over the fact that you are a white boy. Any problem your ancestors may have caused is not your fault. Just because I have German genetics does not mean I had anything to do with ANYTHING that may have happened in WW2. You are who you are, the only things you have to be guilty about is what you have done and what you have the potential to do.

Step two. Start enjoying the fact that you can have fun. If I, as a white boy, crack a racially inspired joke and the people I tell it to know its a joke we laugh. If we are in public and someone gets offended they are more than welcome to say so. That does not mean I will stop making the jokes. Just that I will tone it down so they don't have to hear what I am saying, and explain that its a joke and there was no harm intended.

Life is to short to spend time miserable. Being depressed because your white is not something to get worked up about. And hell if you still feel guilty about something you can go ahead and make a promise to yourself and the world that "I will do something to show everyone that all white people are not insane!"

Step three. Stop looking at the bad things. If you keep focusing on all the bad things that people have done over the years you will be depressed. (and stop watching the news so much they only really ever tell you the bad things that are going on) Start looking at the good things that people have done through our history and you will see that we don't go around killing every living thing we see. Just start looking and you will see "Hey that hole in the ozone layer has shrunk 15%!" and you will start to get some of your hope back.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19317_7-pieces-good-news-nobody-reporting.html
 

Markgraf

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All of these people saying "look into European culture and you'll find it's more interesting" are simply put, people who cannot appreciate American culture in itself and are perpetuating Eurocentrism. While it is true that European culture is one of the richest in the known world, that does not mean that North America is completely lacking in culture. Truthfully speaking, the Americas have an extremely rich cultural background that includes so many cultural groups that it's astounding. Americans (from both continents) have proven themselves time and time in the fields of science, literature, the visual arts, historiography, and many others. OP, if you seriously believe White-American culture is "shallow" then you are clearly ignorant and/or misinformed. Find out more about your roots before criticizing them, you just might learn to appreciate them. In fact, I'd go so far as to say, that the Spanish and English languages' best modern writers come from the New World.

Also, INB4 American-supremacist, look at my profile.
 

jprf

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I'm British, so by your standards I should be one of the most guilt ridden people in existence.
I'm not though, because I wasn't alive during the empire, and as such I bear no responsibility for what happened then whatsoever, just as you don't bear any responsibility for your ancestors' massacre of the native Americans.
Cheer up.
 

epialesofaergia

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Crazycat690 said:
And you're a girl? Maybe just give it a cry?
Hahahahahaha.

Seriously, I don't know what I can do now. I was going to say something about inherited history being bullshit, and how the OP just probably hates people combating prejudice with prejudice with baggage attached and doesn't realize it because she "believes the hype" so to speak, but damn.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and not racist is the new racist.
 

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Valis88 said:
My advice to you is this - Your genetic identity means only as much as you want it to. Who cares about your roots or surrounding culture.
Think of it this way - Someday, you will be part of a culture considered to be the ancestors to someone else. Your life is your opportunity to ensure that they have an ancestry to be proud of.

Look forward, not back, in other words. Define who you are via your own actions and your own ideals. Do not judge yourself by your ethnicity and ignore anyone who does. The colour of your skin, irises or hair does not hamper the endless potential that lies within you. The potential to teach, learn, lead, or accomplish whatever you put your mind to.

So don't be ashamed of what others have done to define your ethnicity - Redefine it yourself.
 

RamirezDoEverything

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Suck it up and keep fighting for what's yours.

I'll be damned before I become the oppressed minority in the future.

Affirmitive action my ass, if true equality is to be reached in all races, we have to ignore races, not make the playing field fair.
 

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stefanbertramlee said:
Rasputin-2 said:
Just wait about 50 years then you will be in the minority here in the United States.
Doubtful
Here is a link. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/06/white-children-in-the-minority-in-10-states

White children are now in the minority among people under 18 in 10 U.S. states and 35 large metro areas, according to a Brookings analysis of 2010 Census data.

The number of white children in metro areas including Atlanta, Georgia; Dallas, Texas; Orlando, Florida; and Phoenix, Arizona, fell below that of other children in the last decade as the population of white children nationwide declined by 4.3 million, the report said.

The decline occurred as the number of children identified as "new minorities" ? Hispanics, Asians and other racial groups apart from whites, blacks and American Indians ? grew by 5.5 million, the report said.

Hispanics registered an increase of 4.8 million, which kept the nation's overall child population from declining, the report said. The findings reflect changes in the racial makeup of the overall U.S. population with Hispanics becoming the nation's largest and fastest growing minority group.

Hispanics now comprise 23% of children, up from 12% in 1990, while whites now comprise just 53% of youth, down from nearly 70% in 1990.

The findings also underscore projections that the country will become "white minority" by 2042 as the race's median age keeps increasing. The child population stands to hit that mark in 2023.

"Slower growth among whites owes in part to their lower fertility rate ? about 1.9 births per white woman, compared with 3.0 births per Hispanic woman ? as well as a relatively low contribution to population growth from immigration" the report stated.

From 2000 to 2009, only 15% of growth in the immigrant population was attributable to whites, compared with 78% for Hispanics, Asians and other new minorities.

The report also said the aging white population contributes to a lower growth rate because proportionately, fewer white women are in their child-bearing years.

"The median age of whites is 41, compared to 27 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and a staggering 20 for the population of more than one race. As a further reflection of these age differences by race and ethnicity, just one-fifth of U.S. whites are under age 18, compared with one-third of all Hispanics."

The study also found that the decline in white children reduced the growth rate of the overall child population, from 13.7% in the 1990s to 2.6% in the 2000s. Though variation from state to state in child growth was considerable, on the whole, 46 states registered declines in their white child populations.

Not surprisingly, most of the states that experienced growth in populations of minority children are the ones where white children are in the minority: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Maryland.
 

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I know you claimed that this isn't an attention thread, and I don't want to throw stones, but something tells me that since you 1) put this in "off-topic" as opposed to "advice" discussion, since the former is guaranteed to get more traffic and 2) haven't made a single return comment on any of these posts, not even the ones that are genuine or at least carefully crafted, you really are looking for a little attention. I'm almost upset with myself that I'm responding.

But, to give you the benefit of the doubt, you might be in trouble. Self-hatred is the worst kind of hatred (if you don't love yourself, why should anyone love you?) and I hate to see it in action. Worse so, it's awful to see you bind yourself to something so superficial as race. It's the 2000s, and we as a generation are working to make race less and less significant. Where people are judged first and foremost by their character and not by the color of their skin (as Mr. King Jr wanted). But if people like you still remain, whether in modes of thinking that they are superior because of their race or through self-hatred, then we'll get nowhere.

So hate something else about yourself. Hate that you're a coward, or that you can't dance well, or anything else. Something you could fix, or work on, or (even better) accept as a part of you since you aren't a perfect person and will have flaws. But don't hate yourself for something you had no control over, or doesn't define you as a human. As a minority myself, I wouldn't look at you and think "cruel wicked whitey", I would think "hello fellow member of humanity". So try thinking like that yourself. Good luck, really. Hope you start feeling better about who you are soon enough.
 

FalloutJack

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Valis88 said:
-Compressed for convenience-
Welcome to competence. Most people don't even think twice about their lives in this crazy world. So, you realize that there's a big downside to being a member of the race that profitted from slavery for a good many years and so on. Good. You'll not feel the stereotypical Ammerican supremacy thing backed up by far-too-intense patriotism. That's good.

Now, it's time to see the other side of the coin.

Not everything we do is bad. And not everything that everyone else does is good. The truth of the matter is that many people on the planet have their DUH moments (nearly all of them) and a significant amount of those people are incurably stupid for...various reasons that I could be here for hours on about. Silver lining? Not everyone is this bad and not all of the time. Humanity trips on its feet alot, but this is still a vast improvement on the dark ages.

The thing to remember is that once you acknowledge that even people you know can be incredibly dense at times, you start to realize that none of this is your fault and that the guilt is a little misplaced. You can do what you can to help, but you shouldn't feel responsible for the plight of the world.
 

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Dude, if one were to ask me of such matters, I would reply "NEVER be ashamed of who you truly are."
If you are white then do NOT be ashamed of being white. You personally did not oppress any peoples, so feel no guilt about oppressing any peoples. Do not look into your heritage for bad things. See the good it's done, whatever that might, from wahteer heritage you might have.
Especially when you think that every single group of any race/religion/ethnicity has oppressed someone else sometime or another, on one scale or another. Besides it's not like you can do anything about it anyways.

The only time I didn't like my own race was yesterday when I forgot to put on sunscreen.
..........my back is beet red now.......... that really hurts.........
 

For.I.Am.Mad

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White people need to get their child rearing in check. You shouldn't have to feel guilty to not be a dick.
 

Spygon

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Live your own life yes nearly everybody ancestors were total assholes because they didnt know any better.

But you do so live a life that shows that the human race have improved.I am English do i think that my ancestors were opressive,empire building assholes yep i do but i did not do any of that myself.So i will not blame myself for someone elses actions.
 

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Rasputin-2 said:
stefanbertramlee said:
Rasputin-2 said:
Just wait about 50 years then you will be in the minority here in the United States.
Doubtful
Here is a link. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/06/white-children-in-the-minority-in-10-states

White children are now in the minority among people under 18 in 10 U.S. states and 35 large metro areas, according to a Brookings analysis of 2010 Census data.

The number of white children in metro areas including Atlanta, Georgia; Dallas, Texas; Orlando, Florida; and Phoenix, Arizona, fell below that of other children in the last decade as the population of white children nationwide declined by 4.3 million, the report said.

The decline occurred as the number of children identified as "new minorities" ? Hispanics, Asians and other racial groups apart from whites, blacks and American Indians ? grew by 5.5 million, the report said.

Hispanics registered an increase of 4.8 million, which kept the nation's overall child population from declining, the report said. The findings reflect changes in the racial makeup of the overall U.S. population with Hispanics becoming the nation's largest and fastest growing minority group.

Hispanics now comprise 23% of children, up from 12% in 1990, while whites now comprise just 53% of youth, down from nearly 70% in 1990.

The findings also underscore projections that the country will become "white minority" by 2042 as the race's median age keeps increasing. The child population stands to hit that mark in 2023.

"Slower growth among whites owes in part to their lower fertility rate ? about 1.9 births per white woman, compared with 3.0 births per Hispanic woman ? as well as a relatively low contribution to population growth from immigration" the report stated.

From 2000 to 2009, only 15% of growth in the immigrant population was attributable to whites, compared with 78% for Hispanics, Asians and other new minorities.

The report also said the aging white population contributes to a lower growth rate because proportionately, fewer white women are in their child-bearing years.

"The median age of whites is 41, compared to 27 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and a staggering 20 for the population of more than one race. As a further reflection of these age differences by race and ethnicity, just one-fifth of U.S. whites are under age 18, compared with one-third of all Hispanics."

The study also found that the decline in white children reduced the growth rate of the overall child population, from 13.7% in the 1990s to 2.6% in the 2000s. Though variation from state to state in child growth was considerable, on the whole, 46 states registered declines in their white child populations.

Not surprisingly, most of the states that experienced growth in populations of minority children are the ones where white children are in the minority: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Maryland.
Now look at wealth distribution. ;)