I hate being white....

[RamirezDoEverything]

Suck it up and keep fighting for what's yours.

I'll be damned before I become the oppressed minority in the future.

Affirmitive action my ass, if true equality is to be reached in all races, we have to ignore races, not make the playing field fair.

 

[Rasputin-2]

Just wait about 50 years then you will be in the minority here in the United States.

Doubtful

Here is a link. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/06/white-children-in-the-minority-in-10-states

White children are now in the minority among people under 18 in 10 U.S. states and 35 large metro areas, according to a Brookings analysis of 2010 Census data.

The number of white children in metro areas including Atlanta, Georgia; Dallas, Texas; Orlando, Florida; and Phoenix, Arizona, fell below that of other children in the last decade as the population of white children nationwide declined by 4.3 million, the report said.

The decline occurred as the number of children identified as "new minorities" ? Hispanics, Asians and other racial groups apart from whites, blacks and American Indians ? grew by 5.5 million, the report said.

Hispanics registered an increase of 4.8 million, which kept the nation's overall child population from declining, the report said. The findings reflect changes in the racial makeup of the overall U.S. population with Hispanics becoming the nation's largest and fastest growing minority group.

Hispanics now comprise 23% of children, up from 12% in 1990, while whites now comprise just 53% of youth, down from nearly 70% in 1990.

The findings also underscore projections that the country will become "white minority" by 2042 as the race's median age keeps increasing. The child population stands to hit that mark in 2023.

"Slower growth among whites owes in part to their lower fertility rate ? about 1.9 births per white woman, compared with 3.0 births per Hispanic woman ? as well as a relatively low contribution to population growth from immigration" the report stated.

From 2000 to 2009, only 15% of growth in the immigrant population was attributable to whites, compared with 78% for Hispanics, Asians and other new minorities.

The report also said the aging white population contributes to a lower growth rate because proportionately, fewer white women are in their child-bearing years.

"The median age of whites is 41, compared to 27 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and a staggering 20 for the population of more than one race. As a further reflection of these age differences by race and ethnicity, just one-fifth of U.S. whites are under age 18, compared with one-third of all Hispanics."

The study also found that the decline in white children reduced the growth rate of the overall child population, from 13.7% in the 1990s to 2.6% in the 2000s. Though variation from state to state in child growth was considerable, on the whole, 46 states registered declines in their white child populations.

Not surprisingly, most of the states that experienced growth in populations of minority children are the ones where white children are in the minority: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Maryland.

 

[brinvixen]

I know you claimed that this isn't an attention thread, and I don't want to throw stones, but something tells me that since you 1) put this in "off-topic" as opposed to "advice" discussion, since the former is guaranteed to get more traffic and 2) haven't made a single return comment on any of these posts, not even the ones that are genuine or at least carefully crafted, you really are looking for a little attention. I'm almost upset with myself that I'm responding.

But, to give you the benefit of the doubt, you might be in trouble. Self-hatred is the worst kind of hatred (if you don't love yourself, why should anyone love you?) and I hate to see it in action. Worse so, it's awful to see you bind yourself to something so superficial as race. It's the 2000s, and we as a generation are working to make race less and less significant. Where people are judged first and foremost by their character and not by the color of their skin (as Mr. King Jr wanted). But if people like you still remain, whether in modes of thinking that they are superior because of their race or through self-hatred, then we'll get nowhere.

So hate something else about yourself. Hate that you're a coward, or that you can't dance well, or anything else. Something you could fix, or work on, or (even better) accept as a part of you since you aren't a perfect person and will have flaws. But don't hate yourself for something you had no control over, or doesn't define you as a human. As a minority myself, I wouldn't look at you and think "cruel wicked whitey", I would think "hello fellow member of humanity". So try thinking like that yourself. Good luck, really. Hope you start feeling better about who you are soon enough.

 

[FalloutJack]

-Compressed for convenience-

Welcome to competence. Most people don't even think twice about their lives in this crazy world. So, you realize that there's a big downside to being a member of the race that profitted from slavery for a good many years and so on. Good. You'll not feel the stereotypical Ammerican supremacy thing backed up by far-too-intense patriotism. That's good.

Now, it's time to see the other side of the coin.

Not everything we do is bad. And not everything that everyone else does is good. The truth of the matter is that many people on the planet have their DUH moments (nearly all of them) and a significant amount of those people are incurably stupid for...various reasons that I could be here for hours on about. Silver lining? Not everyone is this bad and not all of the time. Humanity trips on its feet alot, but this is still a vast improvement on the dark ages.

The thing to remember is that once you acknowledge that even people you know can be incredibly dense at times, you start to realize that none of this is your fault and that the guilt is a little misplaced. You can do what you can to help, but you shouldn't feel responsible for the plight of the world.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

Dude, if one were to ask me of such matters, I would reply "NEVER be ashamed of who you truly are."
If you are white then do NOT be ashamed of being white. You personally did not oppress any peoples, so feel no guilt about oppressing any peoples. Do not look into your heritage for bad things. See the good it's done, whatever that might, from wahteer heritage you might have.
Especially when you think that every single group of any race/religion/ethnicity has oppressed someone else sometime or another, on one scale or another. Besides it's not like you can do anything about it anyways.

The only time I didn't like my own race was yesterday when I forgot to put on sunscreen.
..........my back is beet red now.......... that really hurts.........

 

[For.I.Am.Mad]

White people need to get their child rearing in check. You shouldn't have to feel guilty to not be a dick.

 

[Spygon]

Live your own life yes nearly everybody ancestors were total assholes because they didnt know any better.

But you do so live a life that shows that the human race have improved.I am English do i think that my ancestors were opressive,empire building assholes yep i do but i did not do any of that myself.So i will not blame myself for someone elses actions.

 

[Skjalg Kreutzer]

Just wait about 50 years then you will be in the minority here in the United States.

Doubtful

Here is a link. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/06/white-children-in-the-minority-in-10-states

White children are now in the minority among people under 18 in 10 U.S. states and 35 large metro areas, according to a Brookings analysis of 2010 Census data.

The number of white children in metro areas including Atlanta, Georgia; Dallas, Texas; Orlando, Florida; and Phoenix, Arizona, fell below that of other children in the last decade as the population of white children nationwide declined by 4.3 million, the report said.

The decline occurred as the number of children identified as "new minorities" ? Hispanics, Asians and other racial groups apart from whites, blacks and American Indians ? grew by 5.5 million, the report said.

Hispanics registered an increase of 4.8 million, which kept the nation's overall child population from declining, the report said. The findings reflect changes in the racial makeup of the overall U.S. population with Hispanics becoming the nation's largest and fastest growing minority group.

Hispanics now comprise 23% of children, up from 12% in 1990, while whites now comprise just 53% of youth, down from nearly 70% in 1990.

The findings also underscore projections that the country will become "white minority" by 2042 as the race's median age keeps increasing. The child population stands to hit that mark in 2023.

"Slower growth among whites owes in part to their lower fertility rate ? about 1.9 births per white woman, compared with 3.0 births per Hispanic woman ? as well as a relatively low contribution to population growth from immigration" the report stated.

From 2000 to 2009, only 15% of growth in the immigrant population was attributable to whites, compared with 78% for Hispanics, Asians and other new minorities.

The report also said the aging white population contributes to a lower growth rate because proportionately, fewer white women are in their child-bearing years.

"The median age of whites is 41, compared to 27 for Hispanics, 35 for Asians, and a staggering 20 for the population of more than one race. As a further reflection of these age differences by race and ethnicity, just one-fifth of U.S. whites are under age 18, compared with one-third of all Hispanics."

The study also found that the decline in white children reduced the growth rate of the overall child population, from 13.7% in the 1990s to 2.6% in the 2000s. Though variation from state to state in child growth was considerable, on the whole, 46 states registered declines in their white child populations.

Not surprisingly, most of the states that experienced growth in populations of minority children are the ones where white children are in the minority: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Mississippi and Maryland.

Now look at wealth distribution.

 

[martin's a madman]

I like being white, I like my pale skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair (on me) while being far from a white supremacist as I have a particular fancy for brown women (India, Middle east, etc).

As for 'white culture' being shallow? What the hell is 'white culture'? You might unique culture in regions that are mostly white, but there isn't such a thing as a universal 'white culture'.

I don't feel guilty for anything white people might have done. Why? Because they weren't me, they have no connection to me besides something as arbitrary as providing ancestry. It's not like other races weren't guilty of atrocities as well (in fact, the enslavement of africans by the 'white nations' was largely assisted by other africans). But just to single out white people is an unhealthy ideal. Stop it.

 

[ThatLankyBastard]

... if you haven't noticed, humans as a species are pretty big dicks too...

Imagine, for every bad thing you blame yourself for because your white, there are a million extra things that humans have done that are worse than it!

I'm not trying to really fuck your day, just saying that you should focus more on what you've done than what people decades and centuries ago have done...

 

[Dan Steele]

Humanity is smarter, not just your race, but all the races. Its time to stop dwelling in the past. one of my ancestors owned slaves. Today 3 out 4 of my friends are African American.

 

[empirialtank]

Personally I take pride in the fact that my ancestors (The Germans and the brits,) are the single most lethal portion of any species to ever walk the face of the earth. (The british had a company that bought india. BOUGHT IT! and the empire ruled over a fifth of the earth's land mass and a third of its population through the power of coal, the brown bess, and merchant banking. No matter how you slice it that's impressive.)

As for the crimes my ancestors commited to take that power, they weren't really crimes. Genocide, colonization, exploitation, slavery, that's par for the course as far as most cultural interactions go. In fact Europe was an improvement. The last world spanning empire were the mongols and their policy was to surround a town, kill everyone, burn the town down, cut off the heads of the dead, set the heads on fire, and then throw the flaming skulls of their victums over the walls of the next town and demand their daughters and all their worldly goods as tribute or suffer the same fate. The english just showed up, bought your town and gave you a job working a local plantation or building a road. They even paid you for it and would kill the people who usually treid to raid your town and kidnapp your sister and the tigers in the bush trying to eat you.

The only reason why people think that european colonization was an atrocity is because those same europeans stood up in the latter half of the 19th century and demanded better of themselves. The fact that we think that wars where a mear fifty thousand people die at atrocious evil that the UN and USA have to step in and stop is evidence of their success. Yes Europe ruled and dominated the earth for a few hundred years, but they left it a better place then when they found it.

Can we still do better than we have in the past? Yes. are there still problems that have to be faced and overcome? Yes. Is there still racism and descrimination in the world? OF course. But who does the world turn to to solve the problems? Europe, America and China (A country of Asians who wish they were white.) Western culture carries the vast bulk of power in the world, and with it comes a burden. You can complain that that power was missused in the past, (A case that's harder to make then you would think) Or you can get to work using it to better the future.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Boo hoo, my ancestors did horrible things of which I had no part or control. Y'know, like people of every other race ever.

I mean this sincerely: go fuck yourself.

 

[Corporal Yakob]

Why are the natives superior? No race is superior and this collective guilt feeling is hogwash in my opinion: feel bad if you personally crack the whip over the backs of a hundred slaves otherwise it means nothing.

 

[slyph]

Part of being white is accepting the sins of your forefathers and trying to put the past where it belongs;

This isn't part of being "white", this is part of being human.

This entire debate is laden with exactly the kind of skewed and warped thinking introduced by the OP with his assertion that being "white" (specifically white-American) somehow puts you at the bottom of an imaginary ladder, with all the humble, well-cultured and well-meaning minority folk at the top.

Taken over the course of history, almost every race of people (with the exception of, what, the Eskimos?) has committed atrocity, both systematic and singular, on a par with anyone else. The difference being they are generally not aware of it, whereas in an effort to avoid repeating past mistakes most Western children are made painfully aware of the failures of people with the same colour skin. Look at the history of Africa alone and at least half of the practices that are considered simply "traditional" are utterly abhorrent from a human rights perspective.

Race is a neutral issue. It is used by fools of all stripes to justify their foolishness by referring to a physical feature apparent to all. It's only an issue because people actually want it to be an issue.

As has been stated however, the real problem here is that the OP is depressed and looking for a focus for it.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

((Forward: I'm not flame bating, I'm not trolling...This a a real opinion that I carry in my mind. I've seen some really good debates about race and culture here. I thought I'd bring my own feelings to the table.))

I do. I hate it. I hate that North American white culture is so shallow and stupid. I hate that my very existence represents all the horrible things that were done to the superior, and noble native peoples of this land (and other amazing creeds and cultures as well). I hate that most likely my ancestors were the cause of so much pain, and suffering.

I hate my hazel eyes, my pale skin, and my blonde hair. I look at myself and i see a monster.

I've cried over this...and I still do sometimes.Hell part of my ongoing struggle with depression is my deep deep cultural, and racial guilt.

Yes yes I know 'Why is she saying all of this?' but what I want to know is...Am I alone in feeling this way? is anyone else as hurt and sad as I am about being white?

Also, well, what can I do to bring myself out of this? Can I bring myself out of this?

Should I?

You're turn...

If the other races had been given the chance, they would of done the same thing to us. It's not a matter of race, just the human condition.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Mate, ALL of our ancestors have done things that we are not proud of, but we don't let that get to us, we live in the now, what impact our present actions cause to everyone else. And frankly, don't worry or brood about such things, as you didn't cause atrocities; those things were a long time ago, and people were different.

And, if you research your roots, you can find your heritage to be colourful, diverse and intiguiging.