I hate Ocarina of Time 3D

[JacenElectronica]

or maybe, you just suck at it.
i remember been 8 and playin trough this all alone, took me a long time, but it was (and still is) awesome, my little brother is playing trought OoT 3D at the time and he seems to love it too.

 

[SammiYin]

I don't think the game is difficult but it just it's just not very coherent. I beat the Forest Temple and then nothing... it doesn't give you any indication of where to go which doesn't really drive the plot, all you can do is re-check every area in the game until you find what has changed which isn't very fun.

I think you may be the only person in the history of gaming to effectively ignore navi.

Congratulations.

For the past 5 hours Navi has been telling me to go to death mountain which is not the correct way to go, I was told to go to death mountain before the forest temple, during the forest temple and after the forest temple. Nice job trying to be smart and ignore my post.

You know that's pretty hilarious, since that's where you had to go...

 

[Weslebear]

SNIP

Zelda games are aimed at a younger audience, I still love them but they have never required much skill to complete. I have not once been stuck in a Zelda game and I don't know anyone else who has been, especially with combat. The worst it gets is maybe 15 minutes of playing around with a puzzle, the game isn't bad because you don't have enough skill to complete it if everyone else did it when they were 10.

 

[SammiYin]

I don't think the game is difficult but it just it's just not very coherent. I beat the Forest Temple and then nothing... it doesn't give you any indication of where to go which doesn't really drive the plot, all you can do is re-check every area in the game until you find what has changed which isn't very fun.

I think you may be the only person in the history of gaming to effectively ignore navi.

Congratulations.

For the past 5 hours Navi has been telling me to go to death mountain which is not the correct way to go, I was told to go to death mountain before the forest temple, during the forest temple and after the forest temple. Nice job trying to be smart and ignore my post.

You know that's pretty hilarious, since that's where you had to go...

You know that's pretty hilarious because you can't even read.

Why would Navi send me to Death Mountain when I had to do the freaking forest temple???

Ok don't cry, I was referring to the 'after the forest temple' part, since a child could see you had to go to the forest first.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Fine. I give up. You all win. I'm going to betray my opinion and call the game that ticked me off more than anything else in the world the greatest thing ever. THE HYPOCRISY IS DELICIOUS.

Or perhaps you're legitimately thinking that I liked the game, but just decided to claim to hate it so I could be a troll. No. I'M NOT TROLLING. Trolling is claiming to hate something good because it will be hilarious to watch people call you an idiot.

Maybe you'd like it if I just cancelled my Escapist account. Would you like that? I'm trying to get it in your heads that the only reason this game is so good for you is because you played it at an age where you'd enjoy Captain N.

Come on moderators, ban me already. I welcome it with open arms.

Holy shit, you're a bitter person.

We aren't saying you're wrong in not liking the game.

We're saying you suck at it. Hard. And we're also saying that you're telling people not to buy a game that the majority of gamers love. That's just... ignorant, really. And I hate using that word. It always sounds so bullshit-defensive, but it's true.

You are damn well entitled to your opinion, and anyone on here that tells you that your opinion about not liking the game can suck it, but you're more than just saying you don't like it. You're saying things that are just downright untrue. It's a well designed game. You just don't like the challenge that it gives.

So learn to chill. Ignore the people telling you your opinions are wrong. But be a bit more sympathetic to those that love the game and don't go around screaming "don't buy this incredibly popular game that I don't like/am not good at." That's the only reason people are getting pissed.

 

[Ratlover]

I love nerd rage. I swear nerds are the best people to troll, just tell them something that they really like sucks and stand back and watch the nerd have a panic attack.

 

[macacos2]

I get into the game, I start having fun, and then the difficulty spikes so hard it comes back around and rapes you.

Did you really just said that the game is terrible because it's actually challenging?

Are you mental?

 

[Azaraxzealot]

that's nice. And it was important to tell us... why?

contrarian points of view are what keeps everything in this world interesting and moving forward.

Maybe the greatest game ever is hiding behind the Forest Temple, which contains a room with 3 skeleton sodiers that are ridiculously hard to defeat, you have to take them on at the same time, and if you take too long killing the last one, the first one you killed COMES BACK TO LIFE AND SLICES YOU OPEN WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO KILL THIS LAST ONE. I mean, WHAT THE HELL?

THAT is what you are stuck on?
My god man, you fucking suck at Zelda.

I personally love OoT on my 3DS, its improving upon everything I liked in OoT for my N64.
The fact that you're stuck on a kinda hard part I guess, is hilarious.
If you complained about the silliness of Jabu-Jabu in master quest, or how skeleton soldiers are really really fucking hard to fight when they do double damage, then I'd say your QQ is warranted, but its not.

Yes nostalgia makes OoT seem so much better than it actually is, but I don't understand why you are so buttmad about this.

that was worse than what he said. and what he said was merely a truth for someone who isn't playing the game through nostalgia goggles

don't worry Jailbird, i know how you feel. everyone here loves Deus Ex, Half Life, and Dragon Age so much that anyone who even had a REMOTELY bad time with it is automatically considered to "suck" at video games because they beat it right out of the womb or some shit.

i hated all those games because i grew up with Starcraft and games which were user-friendly and overall more fun. it's like when yahtzee said "i played wind waker and super mario sunshine before ocirana of time and mario 64 and i thought both were better in every way".

it's really an issue of games evolving so much that playing newer ones before older ones makes the older ones seem shitty in comparison [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny] (a real-life trope video games seem VERY susceptible to) and the fact that the Nostalgia Filter [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NostalgiaFilter] is in FULL effect here.

anyone who is enamored with it so much that they will attack anyone who dares not enjoy it and dares express that opinion is simply someone who was playing zelda since before we were born or grew up playing it.

age has nothing to do with how easy a game is.

i beat Earthworm Jim, Super Mario Land 2: Land of the Golden Coins, Wario Land, Super Mario Bros., Crash Bandicoot (the originals on PS1), Twisted Metal (1, 2, 3, and 4), Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle (more than once, and all in one go without saving), Unreal Tournament, and Starcraft all on my own with no cheats, no looking up info on any of the games, and learned nearly every aspect of each and every one of those games to the point where i had 99% completion in Crash Bandicoot and had nearly unlimited lives in Super Mario Land 2 and could win countless battles in Starcraft without even trying...

and all before i was 12.

yet now i can't even get past the first level on Deus Ex (which people ridicule me for because apparently it's "easy"), can't play Dragon Age on any difficulty above easy (and i STILL find it too hard), and can't handle Half Life because it's just so god damn frustrating and unintuitive by today's standards.

As are most old games.

As yahtzee once said "there's nothing special about old games, they're just old."

Ocarina of Time is a game that does NOT hold up by today's standards.

And besides, there are different kinds of difficulty associated with different kinds of games, so using the catch-all phrase "you suck" to justify your love of an old game is just stupid. i'm good at strategy and platforming games, that doesn't mean i suck at video games because i can't beat deus ex or dragon age.

maybe someone isn't good at one or two particular games, but going all out and going "YOU FUCKING SUCK! NOOB!" just because it was YOUR game they didn't enjoy doesn't justify your remark.

reported.

 

[Torrasque]

that's nice. And it was important to tell us... why?

contrarian points of view are what keeps everything in this world interesting and moving forward.

Maybe the greatest game ever is hiding behind the Forest Temple, which contains a room with 3 skeleton sodiers that are ridiculously hard to defeat, you have to take them on at the same time, and if you take too long killing the last one, the first one you killed COMES BACK TO LIFE AND SLICES YOU OPEN WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO KILL THIS LAST ONE. I mean, WHAT THE HELL?

THAT is what you are stuck on?
My god man, you fucking suck at Zelda.

I personally love OoT on my 3DS, its improving upon everything I liked in OoT for my N64.
The fact that you're stuck on a kinda hard part I guess, is hilarious.
If you complained about the silliness of Jabu-Jabu in master quest, or how skeleton soldiers are really really fucking hard to fight when they do double damage, then I'd say your QQ is warranted, but its not.

Yes nostalgia makes OoT seem so much better than it actually is, but I don't understand why you are so buttmad about this.

that was worse than what he said. and what he said was merely a truth for someone who isn't playing the game through nostalgia goggles

don't worry Jailbird, i know how you feel. everyone here loves Deus Ex, Half Life, and Dragon Age so much that anyone who even had a REMOTELY bad time with it is automatically considered to "suck" at video games because they beat it right out of the womb or some shit.

i hated all those games because i grew up with Starcraft and games which were user-friendly and overall more fun. it's like when yahtzee said "i played wind waker and super mario sunshine before ocirana of time and mario 64 and i thought both were better in every way".

it's really an issue of games evolving so much that playing newer ones before older ones makes the older ones seem shitty in comparison [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny] (a real-life trope video games seem VERY susceptible to) and the fact that the Nostalgia Filter [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NostalgiaFilter] is in FULL effect here.

anyone who is enamored with it so much that they will attack anyone who dares not enjoy it and dares express that opinion is simply someone who was playing zelda since before we were born or grew up playing it.

age has nothing to do with how easy a game is.

i beat Earthworm Jim, Super Mario Land 2: Land of the Golden Coins, Wario Land, Super Mario Bros., Crash Bandicoot (the originals on PS1), Twisted Metal (1, 2, 3, and 4), Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle (more than once, and all in one go without saving), Unreal Tournament, and Starcraft all on my own with no cheats, no looking up info on any of the games, and learned nearly every aspect of each and every one of those games to the point where i had 99% completion in Crash Bandicoot and had nearly unlimited lives in Super Mario Land 2 and could win countless battles in Starcraft without even trying...

and all before i was 12.

yet now i can't even get past the first level on Deus Ex (which people ridicule me for because apparently it's "easy"), can't play Dragon Age on any difficulty above easy (and i STILL find it too hard), and can't handle Half Life because it's just so god damn frustrating and unintuitive by today's standards.

As are most old games.

As yahtzee once said "there's nothing special about old games, they're just old."

Ocarina of Time is a game that does NOT hold up by today's standards.

And besides, there are different kinds of difficulty associated with different kinds of games, so using the catch-all phrase "you suck" to justify your love of an old game is just stupid. i'm good at strategy and platforming games, that doesn't mean i suck at video games because i can't beat deus ex or dragon age.

maybe someone isn't good at one or two particular games, but going all out and going "YOU FUCKING SUCK! NOOB!" just because it was YOUR game they didn't enjoy doesn't justify your remark.

reported.

OoT is the game I get friends of mine to play, that don't play any games, or don't play any Nintendo games "because they're gay", or because they've never played any Zelda before.
I've never had a single friend of mine get stuck from enemies before.
Sure they've had trouble with some bosses (1 couldn't quite get the trick of Shadow Ganon his first time, but did fine his second try) and some parts have left them confused "Where do I go now? STUPID WATER TEMPLE!", but never to the point where they throw up their hands and make an angry post about it.

Maybe I am being too harsh, I'm probably not being very understanding too.
But when I get stuck on a part, I don't ragequit. I go online to see if anyone else is having the problem, and how I can get around it. I ask my friends for tips on how they got past certain trouble parts. I've even restarted the game to see if the way I did things was wrong.

I guess my level of determination for games, is different from yours.
lol @ reported

 

[Azaraxzealot]

I get into the game, I start having fun, and then the difficulty spikes so hard it comes back around and rapes you.

Did you really just said that the game is terrible because it's actually challenging?

Are you mental?

you didn't hear what yahtzee was saying in this did you? [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1321-Demons-Souls]

there's nothing wrong with a challenge, but trying to break down a brick wall with your forehead is grounds for getting fucking sectioned.

this game comes from a time when being obscure and expecting the player to have the reflexes of a cat on a caffeine binge was okay

nowadays it's only a niche thing with most games focusing on FUN instead of nipple-slicing challenge.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Thanks for your opinion on the game but you should be aware that even if you don't like many people do like the game. So long as you understand and accept others people's tastes (or at lest tolerate them) then everything is cool, just don't get so mad that you start saying dumb things.

I do like OoT though, though its not my favorite Zelda game.

 

[AperioContra]

You know, I kind of fee like my dad, because all I can think of is: "You had to be there." ou see, I remember Ocarina of Time on the old N64 (that feels weird to say), a machine specifically designed to insure the youth does not rise up and take over the world by crippling all of our wrist movement.

Imagine the problem you're having, and then try to imagine holding the old N64 controller, seriously. The difficulty curve shot off it's shit the second you add in another hand movement, it was like Guitar hero, except Nintendo Hates you.

So, how is this considered the greatest games of all time? Well, the easy answer is that it just is, it is spectacular game, with quite an amount of imagination (at least for the time). But, the harder answer for those of us in our mid to late 20s is that... well... Back then "3D" games meant Tanks or Duke Nukem 3D. Fully rendered, and on consoles (PC had already had this for years) was something that was really new and good. I'm not kidding, that when N64 came out we probably would have accepted anything in full 3D rendering.

Ocarina of Time may very well be a relic of the past by now. In a world where we can have several enemies and pixel precision fighting, it's kind of hard to look back and remember a time in which graphics weren't all that smooth and half the game was played behind the nostalgic glasses..

 

[Legion IV]

We at the escapist know Ocarina of Time isn't a god send.

That title belongs to Wind Waker or Majora's Mask.

Come at me, Bro.

I honestly thought windwaker is complete trash, Majoras even worse. All garbage. Link to the past only good game in the series.

Come at me, Bro.

 

[Herbsk]

I just do. It is the worst game I have ever played. I'm not trolling, I legitimately hate this game. I went in expecting an engrossing story, gripping action and fiendish puzzles. I should be getting it, but the game keeps throwing up hurdles and forces me to visit the Sheikah stone more than I should be.

It's the exact same reason I hate LOS:TEN. (Oh, god, here I go again...) I get into the game, I start having fun, and then the difficulty spikes so hard it comes back around and rapes you.

But this game is even worse because I was expecting the greatest game ever. Maybe the greatest game ever is hiding behind the Forest Temple, which contains a room with 3 skeleton sodiers that are ridiculously hard to defeat, you have to take them on at the same time, and if you take too long killing the last one, the first one you killed COMES BACK TO LIFE AND SLICES YOU OPEN WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO KILL THIS LAST ONE. I mean, WHAT THE HELL?

If you've never played Ocarina of Time before, don't waste your money. It's a festering pile of rotten fruit glittered up with fancy 3D graphics. Do not play this game. You will just set yourself up for a kick in the balls.

I'm a Nintendo fanboy. I bought the 3DS at launch, SSBB is my favorite game, and I make NES/SNES pixel art in Minecraft. So if this game is bad to someone who follows Nintendo like a puppy on a leash, it has to be pathetic.

Go ahead. Flame me.

.....You do realize I beat this game when I was around 12 or 13 years old without too much difficulty right?

It was a fun game then - I don't know about now, but I enjoyed it then. Therefore, I must respectfully disagree with your opinion!

 

[CrystalShadow]

Wow. Does nobody have any actual skill anymore? Or am I so used to this by now that it seems trivial to me?

Ocarina of time contains some tedious stuff, but it isn't hard to me.

Granted, by comparison, the likes of Wind Waker, and especially Twilight Princess are in fact, for the most part much, much easier...

But... That's all relative.

If you happen to have played both the SNES version of A link to the Past, AND the GBA re-release, you'd be surprised at just how much easier the GBA version actually is.

I mean, there's a whole puzzle which has pretty much been neutered, and a boss that seems to die with about 1/5th the damage it used to.

If that's any indication of what Nintendo thinks of modern gamers, it shows there's nowhere near as much tolerance for difficulty as there used to be.
Which you seem to be indicating.

Anyway... Stalfos? Really?

If you haven't given up completely, you'll hate shadow gannon, and abolutely loathe mirror link...

(Ironically, the end boss battles are easier than both of these...)

But you are right about one thing; Ocarina of time isn't as brilliant as it's made out to be.

It's merely brilliant for it's time.
Which is entirely different.

Taken out of context, and compared to modern games, no. It's not that great.

But I have to say, as a (by now) 20 year veteran of Zelda games, I have the opposite problem you are having:

The most recent zelda games are just too easy. (And also filled with tedious padding. I mean, collecting tears? really? - That's not particularly difficult, just really, really tedious.
But, of course, Wind Waker was worse with that whole treasure map / find the bits of the triforce nonsense...)

That's the problem with a complaint like this:

To you, ocarina of time is too hard.

To me, the newer iterations are too easy.

Try to please either one of us, and the other will be disappointed.

 

[Jailbird408]

Well, you'll all be happy to know that I've changed my opinion of Ocarina of Time. Yeah, it's a little obtuse, but it's so much fun now that I've gotten past the regenerating skeletons. Thanks to whoever suggested the Deku Nuts, you really helped me out.

Now can we all just forget this ever happened so I can regain my credibility on the forums?

And I was. Not. Trolling.

 

[Jailbird408]

.....You do realize I beat this game when I was around 12 or 13 years old without too much difficulty right?

What? No! How would I know that?

However, I am grateful that you RESPECTFULLY disagreed with my opinion. I wish everyone else did. No matter, I like the game now.

 

[Jailbird408]

If you haven't given up completely, you'll hate shadow ganon...

Is that the dude that comes out of the paintings? I beat him without that much trouble.

THAT is what you are stuck on?
My god man, you fucking suck at Zelda.

I personally love OoT on my 3DS, its improving upon everything I liked in OoT for my N64.
The fact that you're stuck on a kinda hard part I guess, is hilarious.
If you complained about the silliness of Jabu-Jabu in master quest, or how skeleton soldiers are really really fucking hard to fight when they do double damage, then I'd say your QQ is warranted, but its not.

Yes nostalgia makes OoT seem so much better than it actually is, but I don't understand why you are so buttmad about this.

that was worse than what he said. and what he said was merely a truth for someone who isn't playing the game through nostalgia goggles

don't worry Jailbird, i know how you feel. everyone here loves Deus Ex, Half Life, and Dragon Age so much that anyone who even had a REMOTELY bad time with it is automatically considered to "suck" at video games because they beat it right out of the womb or some shit.
-snip-

Thanks for sticking up for me. Why did they ever suspend you?

 

[Nieroshai]

...this thread got weird. Everyone who "suddenly" likes something they hated before is usually being passive-aggressive to shut people up. My fiancee does it in every argument. Also, no hate agaainst Jailbird at all, but the issue for me isn't getting stuck, it's going the "This is the worst game ever because I'm stuck" route I've finally convinced my nine-year-old stepbrother to stop doing.

 

[Zeema]

i prefer Wind Waker and Majores Mask too OoT

but thats just me