I hate to be the guy, but why the hate for COD?

[ELD3RGoD]

Because before MW there was the Beta... and in that Beta people got to shoot... through muthafreaking walls. Seriously, people could shoot through walls, and walls had thickness and cover was not always cover and people were like "ZOMG THIS IS AWESOME!!" because it hadn't been done before. It was innovative and new and perks were like "Holy crap!? We have perks!? And Classes!? And Attachments!?" And everything was totally new.

And then there was the competition between CoD4 and Rainbow Six and Gears of War, with each group having large fanbases (Xbox i'm talking about.) And it was pretty evenly distributed. And then W@W came out and it was pretty decent, and it also used a Beta (see where this is going).

And then it got more and more and more stale. Nothing innovative was added. The support was aweful for MW2 and it had NO BETA. Balance had gone completely out of the window and prices had shot up. Not to mention Map DLC skyrocketing from a measly and well deserved 400 MS points to a whopping 1200!?

With MW2, they added... pro perks... wooo... /sarcasm - and they gave the game no patches, no balance changes, nothing. Left it to rot, and rolled in there billions whilst people had shelled out for something below par when compared to CoD4.

And Black Ops was just an over rated piece of crap which claimed for balance etc, yet is just as unbalanced as MW2 and also retained the skyrocketed map prices. It didn't even do anything new, it just threw in the old formula of zombies onto another one of their games. (ALSO NO BETA)

Not to mention how everything before CoD4 was exclusively directed at PC gamers (Forget CoD3) and how they'd been all but abandoned there onwards. I'm sure there are much more like shitty campaigns etc, but i'll leave it there.

 

[4RM3D]

really, you are saying yourself you are not contributing to the topic, well done.

also cash cow? its the same price as every other game that comes out. (DLC is optional by the way, so it doesnt count towards your argument (i dont even buy the DLC anymore)).

furthermore, you hate it because its more multi player than single player? big deal, thats a reason to simply not play it rather than hate it. lastly, 'a toilet break' how fucking long does it take you to go to the toilet???, please stop exaggerating, its not smart, and doesnt help your argument.

Pointing out that the game is a cash cow (IMO), is a contribution, albeit a very minimal one.

Cash cow isn't about how expensive a game is. Every new release costs about the same. I already made a post about it further back in this thread (link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.288681-I-hate-to-be-the-guy-but-why-the-hate-for-COD#11428892]).

I don't hate the game because it has more multi player than single player. I don't like the game because the multi player is unbalanced. Also mentioned that (link [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.288681-I-hate-to-be-the-guy-but-why-the-hate-for-COD?page=2#11429241]).

I could have mentioned those points in my initial post, but that's what discussions are for.

Lastly, exaggerating? No shit, Sherlock. I just tried to make it sound more interesting. But apparently you didn't like it. Well, can't please everyone.

 

[Ben Agar]

Meh! Don't hugely hate COD4 here but I got it very late in the peace so found myself getting really, really frustrated with it, not just having to contend with everyone being better online but also everyone had much, much, much better weapons. Getting killed every few seconds drove me nuts.

So that made me give up on it and haven't bothered with it ever since, that and FPS's in general.

 

[ninetails593]

I fucking LOVE CoD!

 

[4RM3D]

People hate it because they don't like the same formulas to games most of the time. Which is strange considering how much people cry when developers change their game to something else. Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 are recent examples of this. In short, people are insane.

Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 both have changed, but that doesn't necessarily means that change is good. Dragon Age 2 shift to console style pissed a lot of PC gamers off. Mass Effect 2 shift away from RPG, made RPG fans angry. If you gonna change something, fine. But be aware if that change is gonna affect your target audience.

 

[LopezPerry]

First off my hate for COD is huge. All they do now is make maps for people who like to sit in a corner with there campfire and tent. Second they dont fix things they should like mod controllers or people who hack the game.

 

[Quantom Quak]

I'm the guy.

 

[SovietSecrets]

People hate it because they don't like the same formulas to games most of the time. Which is strange considering how much people cry when developers change their game to something else. Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 are recent examples of this. In short, people are insane.

Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 both have changed, but that doesn't necessarily means that change is good. Dragon Age 2 shift to console style pissed a lot of PC gamers off. Mass Effect 2 shift away from RPG, made RPG fans angry. If you gonna change something, fine. But be aware if that change is gonna affect your target audience.

Right then so if the changes might be bad and you run the risk of pissing off your fans like Bioware did, then why change CoD and run that same risk? Obviously people love it the way it is now like people did DA 1 and ME 1 so why screw with that?

 

[LightningBanks]

Its just the commuinity that I cant stand, its one of the worst ive ever seen, on all 3 consoles (xbxo, ps3 and pc)

Tl;DR
Unlock based MP is shite and the games are reak of cookie cutter slap-dasherie than real need to put out a gem.

This is why Tf2s get items randomly works so well, because theres no real motive to play cheap in order to get unlocks (apart from idlers, but Id rather have them than what we get on COD)

 

[Composer]

because of the majority community of players

 

[DevilWolf47]

You answered your own question. It's a hideously executed story with gameplay that was never improved after COD4, and yet it is a top-seller. It's the same reason a lot of people give excessive hatred to Transformers. It's horrible, but sells well and as a result badly damages it's own medium. The sheer amount of overrating it receives is what attracts the hate.

 

[Mikeyfell]

Title pretty much says it all... Why is COD so incredibly hated (well among people who probably would consider themselves "hardcore gamers")? I mean, i aint no fan of COD, i've tried every single game, but i just feel that by Black Ops, it's kind of just the same..
But my hate is no way near the amounts that pretty much every gaming forum has for COD, and i never really understood it..

So yeah.. Why the immense hate for one of the best selling videogame franchises ever?

Spoiler: Well in my opinion...

The gameplay is slow paced and boring. There's absolutely no effort put in to the story and writing. The graphics (While techenically impressive) are brown, gray, and just dismal to look at. The campaign is only 5 hours long on a good day. Hardcore difficulty is a cake walk while Veteran difficulty is only playable if you have catlike reflexes and can see the future. There are about a billion guns and only 3 that are worth using. (at least in MW 1 and 2, Blackops was a little better in that respect). And the multyplayer is totally fucked.

Spoiler: allow me to elaborate

The game lobbies aren't ranked so new players will pretty much always be severally outmatched by level 40 or 50 players who are seriously skilled. That wouldn't be so bad if leveling up didn't give you access to better perks and weapons. So here you are a level one with no perks and a pea shooter up against a team of level 50's with sniper rifles and heavy machine-guns all with the juggernaut last stand parks. You get cut down 50 times before your feet hit the ground. I think competitive Multyplayer is a bad thing in and of its self but the crap they pull in CoD is just unforgivable.

But that's all my opinion and personal biases, ripe for the ignoring.

The thing is that CoD makes more money than God for what is essentially the same game over and over again every year. And since CoD 4 other developers have been making CoD 4 ripoffs, and it's gotten to the point to where seeing something that isn't just CoD 4 in a different box is a real rarity. The popularity CoD is making cover based FPS games the majority of the games being released.

Gears of War can share the blame for that too.

So I guess you can say we hate CoD because it's popular but that's only half of it.

 

[Burnhardt]

The main reason why I hate what CoD has become, and I've said this before, it's the FPS equivalent of Madden, FIFA and PES.

Constant yearly updates with little improvements and changes since Modern Warfare. Also having the cheek to 'forget' to include popular maps and charge for them some time after release.

Others include the community (I'll use what I what thank you very much), game modes (mainly just varriants of Deathmatch), and the level designs (give us all the controversial levels you want, nothing will ever top All Ghillied Up)

But its not going to ever change. It's got a formula that millions of gamers love.

Lets face it, if we're completely honest with ourselves we like what we know and tend to stick with things we're familar with and dislike it when developers make major changes to a series or screw up a genre.

 

[4RM3D]

Right then so if the changes might be bad and you run the risk of pissing off your fans like Bioware did, then why change CoD and run that same risk? Obviously people love it the way it is now like people did DA 1 and ME 1 so why screw with that?

That is a valid point. That's why companies like to play it safe. Even DA2 and ME2 changed to appeal a greater audience. The intent was to generate more money, making it more of a cash cow. This doesn't automatically make it a bad game.

If you judge a game purely on its own merits it might actually be a good game. But when you start comparing it, is when the shit will hit the fan (pun intended!).

 

[GrizzlyLives]

Since Cod4, it's just been the same game with different maps and Graphics, and arguably better multiplayer.

I completely disagree with this as you can clearly see they have added new features in every cod game so far, Take World at War it added zombies and Co-Op campaign, Modern Warfare 2 added Spec-Ops and Black Ops added Wager match and CoD points in which you use to buy everything you use. although these are added features to the game witch mostly do nothing for multiplayer(and are kinda an after thought) they have bee adding new features to the same formula that works but people just seem to look past these.

 

[PessimistOwl]

I don't necessarily hate CoD (though I do have an immense hate for the money grubbing Activision). But I do feel the series has gone far past it's expiration date. CoD4 really revamped things then they came out with MW2 (excluding WaW, that was, imo, a step back to the traditional style) and that kind of sucked (at least according to the vox populi. Personally, excluding the hackers and the glitches, the unbalancing of the game was actually somewhat perversely fun). Now you have Black Ops. And when it first came out, it was a lot of fun. But they're going the route of "Balance makes perfect" and in some regard. Treyarch in this case did make the perfectly balanced games. Though it didn't start out like that, they came out with patches remarkably fast and invariably made every gun exactly the same and took the challange our of the game. Or, vice versa, made it too challenging. It's no fun now. And I can tell that the next game won't be any fun either. The way activision is going with it's games, I feel that they are just pushing this a bit too far and forcing too much on their game makers.

 

[Buizel91]

Since Cod4, it's just been the same game with different maps and Graphics, and arguably better multiplayer.

I completely disagree with this as you can clearly see they have added new features in every cod game so far, Take World at War it added zombies and Co-Op campaign, Modern Warfare 2 added Spec-Ops and Black Ops added Wager match and CoD points in which you use to buy everything you use. although these are added features to the game witch mostly do nothing for multiplayer(and are kinda an after thought) they have bee adding new features to the same formula that works but people just seem to look past these.

Everything you just mentions is Multiplayer based (well, Zombies and and Spec Ops can be played on there own but you won't get far) Which i clearly mentioned.

My point still stands.

 

[Mr. Google]

OMG, really? You ask why people hate COD. That is a reason, it may be irrational but it is a reason people hate the series, which is what you asked for.

Did you know people hate Jews? They have reasons for this. These reasons are irrational.
If you asked me why people hate Jews and I told you their beliefs. You would not answer "Thats not a valid arguement so it cannot be it" Same thing here.

You got what you asked for then whined about it.

Oh god, you dummy... I made an argument against yours.. Then you shoot me down saying "I delivered me answer" and just leave. You must be like a supreme debater. Y'know dont even reply, there is no reason if you're not gonna debate with me or anyone..

Dr. Jones you really don't see the whole "He already gave his argument and you just shot it down and said no you're wrong because I know more than you" counter argument. Now i suggest you stop before you troll up all of the escapist.

 

[Zacharious-khan]

i think its because people personally know douches that play COD

 

[Mauso88]

I think a lot of hate comes from old fans of the series who dislike changes made in each installment, the mechanics they liked are taken away and they struggle to adapt. Also, more extensive advertising coupled with a growing playerbase means more attention, negative or otherwise.

The biggest problem is, the majority of players want to have their cake and eat it too, as in they want the game to improve and expand, but don't want anything about the game to change.