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NickFury90

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On reflection, give the note or sonnet or whatever. You'll probably rejected, then you'll hopefully learn from your mistakes. "Golly gee, this poem thing was a bad idea".

I mean, the WORST thing that happens is she is creeped out by your advances and rejects you, and you just move on with your life as a smarter person then you were yesterday, no harm done.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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NickFury90 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
NickFury90 said:
Holy crap, why are you putting this chick on a pedestal? "Oh my God she's just sooo perfect and pretty and funny and blah blah blah". You just need to kick that habit, IMMEDIATELY. I see a lot of nerds doing that shit, then wondering why the girl of their dreams goes off to screw some jerk.

Wait, how old are you, exactly? NOTE-PASSING? Is this elementary school?
It's not note passing, delebirately giving her a note/poem thing I wrote.

All normal people can say what they think about the one they are attracted to. It's not unusual to complement someone.
No it isn't an unusual. But there's a line, ya know?

And pleeeeease tell me you aren't giving her a damn poem. What, do you think she's gonna see you for this amazing person and fall into your arms, so you can compliment her and dream about how perfect she is? "Oh MASTACHIEFPWN you're so sweet, I love that you constantly think of how wonderful and amazing I am, that's such an attractive quality in a man!"

I'm just giving you a reality check, fellow escapist. Women like jerks not because they like abuse, but they like mates that will challenge them, that will keep them interested, keep the spark in their relationship going. They don't want a pet who will lap up everything they do.

You just have to get out of this "nice guy" routine you're in. She has a boyfriend, you aren't getting in there, and giving her a poem about how totally awesome she is doesn't help matters. My advice is to just move on until an opportunity presents itself for you to move in on her. There's pleeeeenty of fish in the sea out there.
The only advice I truly follow to heart is "Be yourself" I'm not a dick, or a douchebag, or a jerk, I am a nice person. Nothing about me is going to change. This guy isn't abusive to her, he just doesn't really like her. She is diffirent from most every girl I have ever met. I'm not letting you tell me about how the girl I like is- Because she's not. I agree that a huge amount of girls are retards, and enjoy getting aboused by douchebags and such, but she isn't.
 

NickFury90

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
The only advice I truly follow to heart is "Be yourself" I'm not a dick, or a douchebag, or a jerk, I am a nice person. Nothing about me is going to change. This guy isn't abusive to her, he just doesn't really like her. She is diffirent from most every girl I have ever met. I'm not letting you tell me about how the girl I like is- Because she's not. I agree that a huge amount of girls are retards, and enjoy getting aboused by douchebags and such, but she isn't.
And how far has "being yourself" gotten you? This is another thing guys like you have to get out of, that if you just be yourself and say a lot of nice things, women will be all over you. I'm saying you need to be a jerk or a douchebag, but grow a damn backbone. Don't compliment her all the time. Don't answer her every whim and call. Show her what an awesome guy YOU are, not telling her how awesome SHE is. You need that confidence to do anything here.

Think about it: ff you not interested in changing yourself, why are you trying to change anything? You seen how far your current method has got you, now its time to CHANGE IT UP.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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NickFury90 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
The only advice I truly follow to heart is "Be yourself" I'm not a dick, or a douchebag, or a jerk, I am a nice person. Nothing about me is going to change. This guy isn't abusive to her, he just doesn't really like her. She is diffirent from most every girl I have ever met. I'm not letting you tell me about how the girl I like is- Because she's not. I agree that a huge amount of girls are retards, and enjoy getting aboused by douchebags and such, but she isn't.
And how far has "being yourself" gotten you? This is another thing guys like you have to get out of, that if you just be yourself and say a lot of nice things, women will be all over you. I'm saying you need to be a jerk or a douchebag, but grow a damn backbone. Don't compliment her all the time. Don't answer her every whim and call. Show her what an awesome guy YOU are, not telling her how awesome SHE is. You need that confidence to do anything here.

Think about it: ff you not interested in changing yourself, why are you trying to change anything? You seen how far your current method has got you, now its time to CHANGE IT UP.
Being myself has gotten me everywhere I wanted. Maybe not relationship wise, but everywhere else.

On the topic of changing yourself, just take a look at one of the last paragraphs of my book-
"They say life is what you make it- but leaders are limited by the technology of their time. We can only make certian aspects of our life the way we want it to be. Everyone wants to change the world, but no one wants to change themselves. Maybe thats why the world is like it is today... We just refuse to change ourselves. Maybe this war will open our eyes. Maybe we'll learn that change isn't a bad thing... But humans aren't programed to know this. We're set to an idea, and that idea drives our lives. I refuse to be someone else, because my life is set. I'm going to die, and I best ravage what I can out of this destroyed world. I guess that causes all of our problems... People like me..." It's not a thing of being able to do it, it is just the mentality behind it.
 

NickFury90

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Being myself has gotten me everywhere I wanted. Maybe not relationship wise, but everywhere else.

On the topic of changing yourself, just take a look at one of the last paragraphs of my book-
"They say life is what you make it- but leaders are limited by the technology of their time. We can only make certian aspects of our life the way we want it to be. Everyone wants to change the world, but no one wants to change themselves. Maybe thats why the world is like it is today... We just refuse to change ourselves. Maybe this war will open our eyes. Maybe we'll learn that change isn't a bad thing... But humans aren't programed to know this. We're set to an idea, and that idea drives our lives. I refuse to be someone else, because my life is set. I'm going to die, and I best ravage what I can out of this destroyed world. I guess that causes all of our problems... People like me..." It's not a thing of being able to do it, it is just the mentality behind it.
So you freely admit how hypocritical it is that no one wants to change, and then refuse change yourself, yes? That you won't make any changes in your lifestyle to get things you desire? Well hey, if that makes you happy buddy. But you really should have made it clear in the opening post that you were going to be a waste of my time. "Dear posters, I complain about change but refuse to change myself to improve myself in areas I lack. Don't give me any advice that might force me to open up different aspects of my lifestyle. Just quick and easy solutions to get this super awesome girl".
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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NickFury90 said:
Changing something that is programed into you isn't easy. It's human nature to not change, and that's why society is what it is today.

We're a stubborn race, and I agree to the fact that I am hypicrytical to changing, as is everyone else.
 

NickFury90

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Changing something that is programed into you isn't easy. It's human nature to not change, and that's why society is what it is today.

We're a stubborn race, and I agree to the fact that I am hypicrytical to changing, as is everyone else.
No, it isn't easy. But if you do want to improve, if you want the things you desire that in your current state you can't attain, you HAVE to force yourself to change. Whether it be studying for a final, stop eating McDonalds and getting to the gym regularly, or changing the way you interact with women you're interested in.

You HAVE to change, or NOTHING will change.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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NickFury90 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Changing something that is programed into you isn't easy. It's human nature to not change, and that's why society is what it is today.

We're a stubborn race, and I agree to the fact that I am hypicrytical to changing, as is everyone else.
No, it isn't easy. But if you do want to improve, if you want the things you desire that in your current state you can't attain, you HAVE to force yourself to change. Whether it be studying for a final, stop eating McDonalds and getting to the gym regularly, or changing the way you interact with women you're interested in.

You HAVE to change, or NOTHING will change.
Yes, but your not asking me to change a little thing about me, your asking me to change who I am. I don't have the same beliefs as you- I think Men and Women are equal, it doesn't matter who chases who down, just as long as person A and person B both have feelings for eachother.

I don't think it is right to abuse anyone- I guess I was just taught morals too well.

Like you said, women like abuse, something I can't dish out, not about to change that, either.
 

NickFury90

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
]Yes, but your not asking me to change a little thing about me, your asking me to change who I am. I don't have the same beliefs as you- I think Men and Women are equal, it doesn't matter who chases who down, just as long as person A and person B both have feelings for eachother.

I don't think it is right to abuse anyone- I guess I was just taught morals too well.

Like you said, women like abuse, something I can't dish out, not about to change that, either.
You clearly didn't read what I said at all. I clearly said its NOT because of the abuse, and I clearly stated that you don't need to be a douchebag or a jerk to gain their attention. But you DO need to gain their attention, and going about it with "gosh you're soooo pretty and special" sonnets has got to be the least successful plan of them all.

I'm not suggesting you wear a leather jacket and smack around women, but you have to grow out of this current stage of relationship-seeking, it simply won't get you anywhere.
 

Laser Priest

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You're the totally unbiased party who wants to date the girl someone else is dating, eh?

I'd recommend just telling her outright that you like her. If she likes you, she'll break up with the guy who - for all I know - is actually the kindest, most loving soul in existence for you. If not, well, now you know.
 

Harry Mason

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There's only one logical thing to do. I'm right outside of her boyfriend's house right now.
*slowly loading Sniper Rifle*
Send me $1,000 over PayPal and I'll see to it that your love life suddenly flourishes...

Seriously, though... Just read what you wrote on this very thread about her, and tell her that. That you think she'd special and you're jealous because you feel like her boyfriend doesn't appreciate her. People REALLY love honesty, especially if you're acting nervous about it.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Harry Mason said:
There's only one logical thing to do. I'm right outside of her boyfriend's house right now.
*slowly loading Sniper Rifle*
Send me $1,000 over PayPal and I'll see to it that your love life suddenly flourishes...

Seriously, though... Just read what you wrote on this very thread about her, and tell her that. That you think she'd special and you're jealous because you feel like her boyfriend doesn't appreciate her. People REALLY love honesty, especially if you're acting nervous about it.
Concidering the sniper offer... XD
 

Smooth Operator

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Look I understand how you feel but you shouldn't go messing up other peoples relationships, it will only stir bad blood and really mixed feelings.
But if you do want to break them up, I say rather tell her how you feel then cop out with a note.

Just remember that she still likes her BF and this thing can go horribly wrong, you might see yourself as the obvious choice but in the end she is the one to choose (you know ye olde "girls like jerks" thing... then again you might also fit the bill).