I just don't understand people. (LA Noire related)

[BanthaFodder]

from what I understand, it IS free-roam (you have to follow a story, but it's not linear, you can take breaks to dick around the city), but I'm looking foward to this. I thoroughly enjoyed Red Dead, and I love the whole "fedoras, trenchcoats, tommy guns, and dames" atmosphere. looks to be a really excellent game. it'll turn off people who just wanna shoot stuff, but it still looks fun.

 

[Beryl77]

To each his own. They prefer the game to be more like GTA so let them. Everyone has his/her personal taste. I can't understand why some people have to complain if someone else has a different taste.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

The plot is probably going to be shit and you'll be able to figure out the criminal in the first few seconds. Just sayin'

And? When you found out the cake was a lie (and 90% of those who play it knew it was a lie long before playing the game), did that make Portal less fun?

When you found out who the oragami killer was in Heavy Rain, did that make the plot worse?

Not to mention that you seem to be jumping to conclusions rather quickly. Have you read the script or something? Played it through? No? Then I don't believe you have a right to make that claim regarding the plot.

Also, if you're gonna pull the old "I'm a mature and intelligent gamer" then fuck off. I remember when games were about fun, not awful writing and pretty graphics. When you've played LA Noire once, then there's no reason to replay it due to it being the exact fucking same.

And I find Mature and Intelligent games to be just as fun (At least more fun then Bulletstorm and Borderlands were). As for replay value, what do you do with Call of Duty or Halo or Grand Theft Auto or Mafia 2 or Heavy Rain or Portal or God of War or Devil May Cry etc etc etc, when that's the norm of gaming at the moment, its not really saying that L.A. Noire is doing something wrong.

 

[The Random One]

Gasp! People with different opinions and preferences? This can't be right!

 

[HeSaNa]

I'm all for wanting whatever features one would want from a video game. That doesn't mean that every game has to include every feature (yes, I realize that I'm referring to the ability to kill whoever one wants as a feature, please don't hate me.)

This is a mindset that I don't want developers/publishers/both to adopt. That every game must include every feature to appease every possible gaming audience out there.

Sure, there are things that I like about this game that I can't do in that game. Is that such a bad thing? I play Bayonetta because I know I'm gonna get game mechanics that require fast reflexes and will push my ability to survive a room full of enemies. I don't play something like Chrono Trigger for the fast-paced game mechanics.

 

[weker]

lol wow just learnt that this game isnt free roam like gta...

i prefer games where i can CHOOSE how to act. i HATE being limited by things. in gta i could just get in my car and go and tear up the entire city which was very freeing.

in this im limited and have to follow a story? also whats with the investagation stuff? i dont want to be examining objects i want to be out there doing whatever i want. i think id fall asleep doing the 'investagation' stuff.

might not even rent this one ..... whose with me?

this game doesn't even have mutliplayer? why would i want to get it if it doesn't have multiplayer?

i was thinking about getting cause i thought another game like red dead redemption would be fun but it doesn't even have multiplayer. why would i want to get this?

i hate how everyone is hating on other people for them wanting this to be free roam or to be able to kill whoever you want. There reply is always "if you want that go play gta 4" well maybe we want to do that in L.A. Noire? or maybe we want to be able to have that aspect of gta, but with a better created enviorment. look at the graphical changes from gta 4 to this..... its amazing.

From what I gather, not only has everyone turned into a murderous psychopath, but they aren't satisfied unless they're killing virtual avatars of other people, regardless of what kind of game it is. Is this...average, or are these people in the minority? I only took a few quotes, but there are many, many more that I could have used from that particular forum.

Is it so horrible to have a story driven game that isn't filled with explosions and mass murder? What happened during the time when online multiplayer didn't even exist?

Really, people confuse me.

That said, I'm really psyched for LA Noire.

Edit: I forgot the major point. Have people forgotten what immersion means?

I see absolutely no reason why they would allow Cole Phelps (You) to go out and murder anyone he feels like, especially considering that he's supposed to be the only (Or one of the few) uncorruptable and (Mostly)'by the book' officer in the department. Running around gunning old women down does not equal good police work!

By god I hope those people are not from the escapist, if so they should be purged from this forum post hates before this turns into ConsoleTrailers.

 

[Tdc2182]

It's like they can't seem to grasp the concept of common sense.

Slow person voice*

"Maybe I want my car to have rocket engines? Why would I not buy a car that doesn't have rocket engines?"

 

[weker]

It could use some form of replayability, not sure murdering is the right way, but OP and some others come off a bit too irritated. Of course, people complaining always come off that way to me.

Anyways, I wish Mafia 2 had multiplayer much more than L.A. Noire.

the campaign alone is 20 hours and 30 40 for squeezing extra missions and other tom foolery

 

[captaincabbage]

"i dont want to be examining objects i want to be out there doing whatever i want"

Then don't buy L.A Noire and instead buy Saints row 2.

Christ almighty.

Yup, pretty much that. Just buy fucking SR3 when it comes out.

OT: Personally I'm really psyched for L.A. Noire, it's a classic detective story that takes you through the seedy underbelly one of the 1940's most glamorous cites, solving crimes with your own wits and quick thinking.
Sounds like a total riot to me.

And people are complaining because you can't run and gun all the time? I found that as one of the complaints people were making against Red Dead Redemption, that all you did was ride to a place, shoot some people, ride somewhere else, shoot more people, race somewhere, shoot more people. I honestly heard people complain about that.
I don't see the problem where you go to a house with a search warrant, search the house, find contraband and take the owner into custody, question and interrogate the prisoner, try and get them to tell you what you need, pick a lead they gave you and follow it to an empty garage, sneak around back and break in to search for clues, only to find a murder scene, search for evidence before you call it in, have backup arrive, drive to another lead, interrogate the witness, tell if he's lying or not, get into a shoot-out with him and his friends, kill two men and take the third into custody, whilst driving back to the station, pick up a call for an armed robbery, etc, etc.

I actually feel a bit sad for Rockstar on this note, they've made their name on the back of GTA, but people now seem to expect that exact same kind of game from them every few years.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

1. They like free roaming in their games, and multiplayer.
2. This game contains neither.

Why would you think step three would be anything other than "3. They dislike this game."

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

You can't murder random people whenever you feel like it?

Good. At least we won't have the dichotomy between story and gameplay where you just come back from murdering half the city, and your character goes "Thats not right, I'm here to help people!" or something like that.

The disconnect between the narrative and gameplay ruined Read Dead Redemption for me.
OP: Good. Now there won't be the aforementioned disconnect.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

It's not open world? I thought it was? I'm confused now. I'm pretty sure it's open world.

 

[Kopikatsu]

It's not open world? I thought it was? I'm confused now. I'm pretty sure it's open world.

It's free roam (You have an eight mile by eight mile map of the city that you can run around in), but not sandbox.

The difference is, you can only do what the game says you can in a free roam game.

In a sandbox game, you can do pretty much whatever you want, which would include gunning down civilians if you were so inclined.

Edit: That being said, a sandbox game doesn't need guns and killing to be a sandbox game. The Sims is a sandbox game, for example.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

It's free roam (You have an eight mile by eight mile map of the city that you can run around in), but not sandbox.

The difference is, you can only do what the game says you can in a free roam game.

In a sandbox game, you can do pretty much whatever you want, which would include gunning down civilians if you were so inclined.

Edit: That being said, a sandbox game doesn't need guns and killing to be a sandbox game. The Sims is a sandbox game, for example.

Ah. Well I don't mind that. I'd be a bit disappointed if I couldn't pop off and explore L.A. though, that's something I've been looking forward to!

 

[Laxman9292]

I think the confusion here comes from the fact that a lot of people who know about the game don't know it's not by Rockstar, but Team Bondi. I had a hard time convincing somebody who has been folliwing the game for months that R* wasn't making it.
What annoys me most about this is that there has been very little gameplay shown, and nothing much said about how the free roam will actually work.
What makes me laugh is how loads of people really seem to hate GTA4, but want LA Noire to just be that in the 40's.
/Rant

Not true, it's being co-developed by Team Bondi and Rockstar. And Rockstar is publishing the game. I mean it has "Rockstar Games presents:" on the box...

That being said, linear games were once all you could get. I guess they see this as a downgrade but I see it more as trading that freedom for an overall better game. Having a specific track and not letting you go on rampages makes your character easier to relate to and also allows for a better, more concise story without all that random massacres.

 

[Kopikatsu]

It's free roam (You have an eight mile by eight mile map of the city that you can run around in), but not sandbox.

The difference is, you can only do what the game says you can in a free roam game.

In a sandbox game, you can do pretty much whatever you want, which would include gunning down civilians if you were so inclined.

Edit: That being said, a sandbox game doesn't need guns and killing to be a sandbox game. The Sims is a sandbox game, for example.

Ah. Well I don't mind that. I'd be a bit disappointed if I couldn't pop off and explore L.A. though, that's something I've been looking forward to!

I doubt you will be disappointed, then. Team Bondi used over 180,000 photos and maps in order to recreate 1940's LA.

Source: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/24/entertainment/la-ca-noir-city-20110424

 

[sergnb]

Rockstar game that doesn't let you go on a killing rampage AT ANY MOMENT OF THE GAME? What a shit game!