I left my girlfriend so I would never have to play another JRPG...

[Muzza-Maaate]

TL;DR

OP is a ******.

LOL

You gave up pussy because you were sick of playing her favourite type of games? You obviously do have a mental deficiency of some form. My girlfriend likes to watch shitty movies, but I watch them with her because it makes her happy. And when she's happy she makes me happy

 

[ioxles]

Ok additional stuff:

Final Fantasy 1 & 2 are worth checking out for historical reasons if nothing else, Planescape: torment for a game equal to the Baldur's gate and Fallout series'.

Now, a very good jrpg I forgot to mention: Snatcher.

Made by Hideo Kojima between metal gear and metal gear 2: solid snake it is a detective/exploration/action game based in a blade runner esq universe. It will be a an art graduates wet dream. Trust me.

Spoiler: intro to snatcher

Also for jrpg pleasure check out Shenmue. It's DC only so you'll have to download it from somewhere and run it of an emulator if you don't have the console lying around somewhere. The world and immersion it creates are the best bar none. It's story is well paced and intriguing if not predictable at times, you also might find yourself waiting around uselessly trying to pass the time for a specific event to occur. It also uses the dreaded quick time events now and then. But even that wont detract from what will be one of the best games you will ever play.

Worth a mention is Omikron: The Nomad Soul. A western rpg also for the dreamcast that I consider unmissable.

Way Of The Samurai should also take front and centre for your consideration as it shows Japanese Narrative at it's best.

 

[InvisibleMilk]

ART DEGREE blahblahblah I'm gonna go eat cake now.

That's right.

 

[SageRuffin]

Was this an opinion-forced rant? Or some kind of review of JRPGs in general? I'm confused.

And in case nobody else said it, you having an art degree doesn't mean shit. I was on the honor roll (for a brief moment, ha ha) back in school; that didn't mean I was smart. You saying "I know more than you do" and you trying to justify that statement by saying "I went to college" just makes you sound like a pretentious jackass. The piece about FF7 further exacerbates that claim since you come off as a mindless, rabid (note the terms there, people) fanboy just like damn near... well... like damn near every other mindless, rabid FF7 fanboy I've come across.

Art forms are extremely subjective in an of themselves - many people argue that the stylized forms used in anime, by way of example, isn't "real art" - and saying that your opinion holds more merit than anyone else just because you graduated college is stupid. You're not a scholar just because you have a degree and you'd do well to remember that.

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On topic, I don't care for JRPGs because I think the bulk of them incredibly boring. I could care less about the story; if the core game isn't fun, then the story will hold little interest after the fact. If I happen to like the core gameplay, then I will, by extension, like the story, since that'll be just one more thing that makes the experience that much sweeter (unless it's hard to follow, or all-around nonsensical). Plus I don't care for the characters in most JRPGs; the only characters I recognize from any JRPGs off-hand are Cloud, Squall, Sephiroth, and the main characters from FFX, and that's only because everyone talks about them so fucking much. Very few WRPGs do that; you create the character you want, and play the game how you want to play it with your character set up how you want them to be. The character may be a blank slate in every sense of the term, but it's you being the character as opposed to being the person behind the character.

Of course, this is my opinion. Some of it is actual fact, and some of it simple conjecture. And guess what? I don't have a degree in anything and I can make that analysis.

 

[THAC0]

I liked the part where where he talked about his Art Degree.

 

[AnonymouZero]

Wow trolling doesnt normally contain that many words.

ditto


OT:... LUL, that's a LOT OF WORDS!

 

[Grand_Arcana]

A simple /sarcasm would avoid a lot of the hate you are getting for the Art Degree thing.

If I have to spell out sarcasm for you, you're too stupid to understand sarcasm. That's the point of sarcasm, that you don't explicitly tell people you're joking.

Or that you're simply not good at telling a joke. It's difficult to detect sarcasm without body language or vocalization. The only hint without those two things is audacity.

Spoiler

I'd figure that your Art Degree would give you the intuition to come to that conclusion yourself, what with the importance of shapes and lines in creating a mood and conveying a message.

Spoiler

/sarcasm

 

[Scrythe]

Header tags are your friend.

 

[Guestowel]

Sorry, I stopped reading when you described it as being both trendy and passe.

 

[mrdude2010]

good points but they're all invalidated since you spend half your time bragging on your art degree. shut up and get back to what you're trying to say. your ethos appeal is worthless to me because i know perfectly well that a degree does not necessarily mean you know what you're talking about (vis. half of your teachers). Your brilliant essay on why JRPG's suck would be much better if you took out every single mention of your art degree. When your arguments stand on their own merit there is no need to qualify them. it adds nothing to your argument it just makes you look pompous and irritates people. i know what im saying is true because i got a 1510 out of 1600 on my SAT's and am therefore qualified to write about this subject =p

 

[mrdude2010]

oh and btw you contradicted yourself when you said "a bad JRPG makes people wonder what is going on" then a little bit later talk about how the best JRPG you played FFVII made you go "what the hell is going on?" please try to remember your arguments later on in the essay it avoids unnecessary contradictions and confusions

 

[Blair Bennett]

My question is why you feel the need to shove your art degree in our faces every time you post. I don't understand why you feel that this is the only means of verifying your points. Trolls can go to university too, you know.

Also, I certainly hope that you're not saying that Western RPG's are the epitome of gaming, especially considering you openly admit to not subjecting yourself to JRPG's for over a decade.

In addition to this, you seem to think that we care about your opinion, why is that? Oh, right! The art degree. You, Sir, have spent an amount of time and effort in university that several others have before you. What makes you think this gives you the right to blather on about The World According To Unmitigated Hatred, and how we should all give up on things you just don't like?

 

[Dr. wonderful]

And another thing...the art degree...no one gives a f*ck.

"Oh I have a art degree, that's make me an expert!" Really, I thought it made you arrogant and a fool because all you really gave us your (self minded) views and a wall of text, that most of us really don't feel like reading...at all.

Please try not to convert people to your side, just because you don't like it. dosen't mean it wil stop.

They will keep getting made.
people, like me, will buy them.
and the world's keep going.

 

[the sighing shoe]

i got a 1510 out of 1600 on my SAT's and am therefore qualified to write about this subject =p

I C what you did there lol

As for me I have to agree with him. (points at quote above) I'm not an avid supporter of JRPG's but I don't innately hate them ether... In my NON art degree opinion they are in a state of purgatory where it seems that for every good great or even awesome one there seems to be an ok bad or horrible one. Games amount of fun should not be measured on what kind of strain they put on a graphic card or engine. You said that yourself, Killing your own argument there. The battle systems have moved on as turn based is no longer the norm. I cant comment on story accurately as I am being forced to read twilight in my AP Lit class and so at this point any story is good story for me. (now if you support twilight say that that isn't subjective its story is split right down the middle between "I love it" or "i hate it" tell me that isn't subjective)Any how before I get too far off topic... Ah yes story. You pointed out FFX I believe so I think I'll target that one, It started off with a major jump with <insert your char's name here> (I stuck with Tidus but thats just me) going to a match for a game final and ended up getting attacked. Maybe its just me but at first I was wondering WTF is happening but it got me interested enough to try and find out what the giant monster was and what it had to do with a ship full of a race of humans known as Al Bhed and what they where trolling up from the ocean. This led to another attack and propelled the story along nicely to meet the next main char's and get me interested in the dark secret behind the summoner's journey. Ok ok I'll end my tirade on FFX there but my point is that JUST because you have an art degree dose not make your opinion any more valuable then others. I will however agree that SOME JRPG's do have these quality's that you mentioned but not all.

Think before you flaunt degree's that way high school kids wont have to lecture you in something your "qualified at".

 

[Happy Toki Toki]

TEXT WALL FAIL

 

[Hollock]

why must you lie to get people to pay attention to you?

seriously thought JRPGs can be fun I liked chrono trigger, and pokemon, and shit but it just doesn't appeal to me. I don't hate.

 

[xXErasmusXx]

I was legitimately more interested in finding out about your girlfriend. Your serious post saddens me.

JRPG's: If you like playing them, go for it. I thought that Mass Effect(fun game, I recommend it) had a horrendous story, laughable companions, boring exploration, and weird philosophies. As for them being a bad art form, I don't care for Andy Warhol's art, but a lot of people think it's fantastic. Eye of the beholder, wot wot.

I don't play video games for an intellectually stimulating experience, I play them to snap spines and have awkward pixilated relations with women, or men as the case may be. (Depends on the achievements.)

 

[maninahat]

I managed to read it all, and actually found it amusing. Was I the only guy to notice that his continual referencing to his "superior art degree" was being played for laughs? The guy could use an editor, but otherwise I agree with what he says.

 

[blankedboy]

Wow, trolling doesnt normally contain that many words.

I agree. This guy is such a troll, I assume he didn't even write the article. AND OF COURSE he doesn't have an art degree, because he was given it by 'Odin', the wisest of 'Aesir', the 'wisest of all the muses'.

So, troll.