I like twilight.

[Yeager942]

I hated Twilight from the get-go. Hated the fans, hated the story, and hated Stephenie Meyer. However, one eventful day I decided to read Twilight so as to not be a hypocrite. I can't say I hate a book when I've never read it. So I read it and...i hated it.

This is, however, just my opinion. If you like it, thats fine. It just isn't my cup of tea.

 

[chaos order]

i personally think that the reason why ppl hate twilight is because the author takes what everyone knew about vampires and pretty much throws it out the window.

As a child (and ill assume with most kids) we knew what vampires were. they were smart, charismatic, manipulative, sadistic, complex, and just damn interesting. Now the author really only takes the most general form of a vampire (as in teeth strength and the want for blood) and leaves us with something that looks like a vampire (minus the damn sparkling) but does not act, or talk like one. twilight to me seems like ppl trying to act like vampires rather than what a vampire truly is. Yes, other other have stretched the idea of other great mythological monsters, like the wolf-man, but they usually kept the key ideals that everyone has grown up knowing with. What twilight has done with its incredible success is redefeine vampires in a horribly shitty way that seems like a shadow of what they used to be.

 

[acosn]

I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this?v Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Its that she took something that's universally considered bad ass and turned them into, in a word, pussies. Find it odd that a character who's effectively immortal suddenly takes interest in a random chick, or goes to high school?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didn't waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen so many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.

Does anyone agree with me?

Writing to fill a given demographic is called literary hackery. It's called having standards. It's why the only children's book author that really gets any credit is Dr. Sues.

It's also funny because if what you're saying is true then S. Meyer is also guilty of collectively insulting her collective fan base because she felt they wouldn't understand it if she wrote above their reading level.

Really though, seven words to sum up the Twilight series- Mary Sue and her John Smith Vampire.

 

[ShadowDude112]

I don't like vampires. I like guys with big muscles who overcompensate with their hair and shoot energy beams from their hands. Don't know what I'm getting at? It's Dragon Ball. But to be honest, the only reason I don't like Twilight is because I hear so much about it. See when I hear too much about something I get pissed at it.For example: I hear so much about Justin Bieber that I'm sick of him because people just won't shut up about him. Maybe there are people like me and maybe there aren't. But you have to understand that this hate could be for some good or bad reasons. Like some people might hate just "because it's Twilight." You just have to learn to deal with it.

 

[Shifty Tortoise]

You... Like Twilight? I... I don't understand D:

I just can't stand Twilight... It makes me vomit, honestly.

 

[MinishArcticFox]

I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this?v Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didnt waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen soooo many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.

Does anyone agree with me?

You raise some valid points I just don't agree with them.

She did re-write these legends but think this through. Why would immortal beings be angsty? Angst is most commonly found in teenage females and JRPGs I don't think that lifetimes of experience and feeding on other people leads to angst. Also love is no real reason for angst after all vampires can hypnotize people if I remember correctly. One good re-imagining of vampires is Daybreakers version of them, if you're really interested in a new look at vampires check that movie out.

As for them being badly written I agree with you they are written to appeal to a certain audience. Only thing is the language of the teenage female is angst and most other life forms tend to find angst a bit ridiculous; especially when you consider that the real life Dracula had a fascination with impaling things from people to cockroaches.

 

[SilentVirus]

What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females.

Hmmm... I never realized being sexually brutalized, many attempts at committing suicide for the attention of a guy, and distancing yourself from family for a guy who DESPERATELY wants to drain your blood and life is appropriate for teenage females. I respect her for trying to break from the vampire norm, but she added too many clichés by doing so. It's just an easily controversial, easily criticized, easily clichéd book.
EDIT: I even read the first book.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

I thought the movies were pretty good. . .
For book movies. lol

You do know the Godfather, clock work Orange, and to Kill a Mocking Bird were all based on BOOKS right?

 

[Neikun]

Right. It's well written to make money, not well written to be an aesthetically pleasing form of art. So yes. It's badly written.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

*facepalm*

Well... Everyone likes something, even if it is terri- I mean not up to my standards. I just wish everyone would stop talking about it.

 

[K_Dub]

You know what, I don't really care if people enjoy the Twilight series. As far as I'm concerned, it's an average book series that some people enjoy and others don't. Like all books everywhere. I've never read the series, and I don't plan to anytime soon because I've no interest in it, so no one try to convince me. I'm serious.

But if anyone that's older than the age of thirteen tries to defend the Twilight movies, you seriously need to analyze your idea of what a good movie is supposed to be, then never talk/reproduce with anyone ever again ever. The end.

 

[Elesar]

It's not just that the vampires are sparkly. It's also poorly written, poorly characterized, poorly plotted, uninteresting, unoriginal and often unintelligent. The films are worse as they are also poorly acted, poorly cast, poorly directed and feature pathetic effects. I'm sorry, I know you're entitled to your opinion, but they fail every single test of a book or films quality.

Yes they are poorly written, doesn't matter who you're aiming it at, there are basic tenants of writing and she misses them all. You want a better writer aimed at teenage girls in more or less the same genre (IE: Fantasy)? Go track down some books by a woman named Tamora Pierce. Her Song of the Lioness Quartet and Wild Magic Quartet are her best. They're romance-based books aimed at teenage girls, but she has an interesting prose, well written characters and a unique and engaging world.

And I'm sorry to (evil) harp(o) on this (everyone who got the evil harpo reference, you're awesome), but if you're going to take away what makes them Vampires, why call them Vampires? Seriously, all they adhere to is the whole blood drinking aspect. Rewrite a few things, like why they need to drink blood, and call them something else and no one would think they're vampires. Because they're not.

In conclusion, you're entitled to your own opinion, but if you like teenage vampire romance and would like to see it better in every way, I recommend you check out a TV series entitled Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not the movie. Never the movie. The TV show.

So to summarize: Yes they suck by the standards set down by...well everyone. If you want something better in the same vein, check out Buffy the Vampire Slayer and anything by Tamora Pierce.

 

[Dark Prophet]

bahahahahahahahahahaa...hahahahaa sry just had to do that
But seriously if you to like something then to hell with the others.

 

[Tdc2182]

I honeslty don't care about Twilight. I dont hate it, I dont like it, I just dont care. The first movie I saw I thought was allright, and the second one I watched was a little boring.

You cant get pissed at someone for trying to rewrite a vampire or a werewolf.,
The only guidelines are that a wolf has to have wolflike characteristics and a vampire has to like blood and hate sun.

Its a book for girls, not guys. Your not cool if you hate it.

 

[adledog]

I thought they were really good. except the second one which was 300 pages of depressing crap devoid of any real plot. and the movies arent very good. but overall the series is pretty good

 

[Aschenkatza]

I found the first movie hilarious, and the trailer for the third movie made the dudes I hang with nod in approval.
I don't think people who like twilight are dumb, I just don't like the fan girls who will literally jump and attack those who say twilight sucks.

The only real thing that kinda ticks me is they freaking sparkled >.> I can understand if the light hurt them or they just psychologically couldn't go into the light, but.. sparkled? It kinda makes them into kittens when you say they sparkled, and vampires should never be kittens... or badgers..

 

[kingcom]

I honeslty don't care about Twilight. I dont hate it, I dont like it, I just dont care. The first movie I saw I thought was allright, and the second one I watched was a little boring.

You cant get pissed at someone for trying to rewrite a vampire or a werewolf.,
The only guidelines are that a wolf has to have wolflike characteristics and a vampire has to like blood and hate sun.

Its a book for girls, not guys. Your not cool if you hate it.

Its not rewriting. Its using a name to sell a product. Just as the title of this thread is used. This is a bad thing, things should stand on their own merits and not simply use someone/something elses reputation. A vampire has an attached stigma. The author removed all of this and created a character without flaws. I find this particularly unacceptable.

 

[FourEyedPandora]

As much as I dislike Twilight, I can't deny its popularity. I won't spend money on the series, since I read the first book and didn't like it, but I don't like ranting about it around people that do like it. I'll make fun of it for people that don't like it, but I believe that people should like what they like to.

The only thing I really hate about Twilight are the hardcore fans that don't understand that people are free to like and make fun when they want. I would wear a "team" t-shirt that says a different vampire name on it, but I'm afraid someone would attack me. That's pretty bad.

 

[kingpocky]

Besides what it did to vampire mythology, there's also the fact that it's a love story about two characters that are more bland than chewing on cardboard. They "love" each other because one of them is pretty, and the other one has blood that smells REALLY good. Yeah, that's all that's important in a relationship. Doesn't matter if your partner is dumb as a post, or controlling and abusive.

 

[ProtoChimp]

Oh my god I thought I was the only person on this site to like twilight. I've wanted to start a thread like this for a long time but always thought I would be ridiculed.