I like twilight.

GruntOwner

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I don't think the problem is that she "reinterpreted" vampires so much as "Made them superheroes with a restricted diet". Most of the twilight flak I hear isn't JUST the writing quality, but also the characters having no depth and, if moviebob is to be believed (I've only seen the first movie so I can't comment on this too accurately... Or accurately at all), doing plot relevant things soley to advance the plot with no real justification.

I've read a few extracts of the first book, found the writing appalling, though your point about target audience covers that, so the only point I'd disagree on is the choice of the word "reinterpreted". A great many men may have had to sit down and watch the movie with their girlfriends, bless their souls, in which case that might also skew their opinion. I'm not saying that Mr Patterson is a bad actor, because not even Morgan Freeman and Liam Neeson combined could make that "I'm a sparkly monster" scene anything but laughable.
 

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You admit she wasn't capable of writing a good book, and instead wrote something intended for people who wouldn't understand something good, and you respect her for it?

Ok then.
 

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I thought she explicitly stated she didn't read the legends. Vampires are monsters, I like them when they kill things. Yes, after Dracula there is supposed to be more of a sexual element (thanks Victorian repression!) but I even like the vampire with a moral dilemma; but that doesn't change that its been done dozens of times before and better. I don't care if people like Twilight, I don't even really care if they think its a gold-plated piece of modern literature -- just leave me the hell alone, and don't assault people who don't agree. I'm not even going to touch her 'werewolves'.
 

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Reason why i didn't like it... it's Mormon abstinence propaganda. While i do appreciate what she tried... i do think she failed in a drastic way. I look at Sergei Lukyanenko's work with the "Watchmen" series and like the way he interpreted vampires more than Mrs. Meyers.

Vampires can come out into the sun, it weakens, but does not kill. Garlic does nothing more than to infect the blood with a stench. Alcohol is more of a deterrent than garlic. (that's why there are very little vampires in russia har de har har)
 

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The movie and the books are horrible. Not a single good, appealing or original concept was put forward. What a horrible way to treat vampire mythology. They sparkle on a freaking sunlight for crying out loud.
If you want to see a good modern vampire movie, go watch Daybreakers.
 

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I never have been able to understand why vampires MUST be scary. The myth may have been started that way, but it's just that...a myth. It looks at vampires from a different perspective...what is so wrong with that?

I liked the books more than the movie, though I generally like books more because they explain more. I am a fan of anything vampire though, I don't set standards.
You realise that vampires were originated from a man called Vlad, right?

Now, this Vlad, is the reason vampires exist, and he wasn't a very calm and peaceful guy. This man has about 8 paragraphs on "Methods of Execution" in Wikipedia, he was such a sick bastard he'd invite friends to dine with him, eating turkey and drinking red wine around a pile of corpses. Now, you might not know who I'm talking about, but this man is more frequently called 'Vlad the Impaler'. If you're thinking, "that's not that scary", you're probably thinking of an Impala.

This is an impala.
http://myanimalblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/impala-07.jpg
And this is an impaler
http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/euro/erdely/impaler.gif

Now, if you're saying to me, that a demonic beast spawned from tales about a demonic man, shouldn't be scary?

Meyer either wanted to cash in on people who got excited by 'a vampire romance', or is unimaginative enough to change an already existing myth to suit her fantasies.
 

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She didn't re-interpret vampire legends, she made it all up. She did not do one bit of research before writing Twilight.

The hatred is directed more towards her success than the books themselves, and that they've turned almost every teenage girl I know into slathering wrecks who are in love with an abusive fictional character.

However, I will admit that she was very cunning by writing for a demographic willing to buy anything with something they love plastered on top of it, even if underneath the covers it's a pile of shit.
 

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Crystal Cuckoo said:
She didn't re-interpret vampire legennds,she made it up. She did not do one bit of research before writing Twilight.

The hatred is directed more towards her success than the books themselves, and that they've turned almost every teenage girl I know into slathering wrecks who are in love with an abusive fictional character.

However, I will admit that she was very cunning by writing for a demographic willing to buy anything with something they love plastered on top of it, even if underneath the covers it's a pile of shit.
This one's on the buzzer.

I'm going a bit off-topic here, but bear with me. I don't disagree with the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) principle of using atomic weapons, as it can save literally, billions of lives. However, I do disagree with the actual use of atomic bombs, and as such, having atomic weaponry is a grey area for me.

Meyer's monstrosity (check it out, alliteration, I doubt you'd find that in Twilight) has no redeeming features, I wouldn't care about if I hadn't heard of people's lives being negatively affected by it (particularly fellow males). And as one who believes that drastic actions have to be taken to ensure happiness, I tend to flame people who support these texts.
 

Legend of J

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I used that for the heading cuz I knew it would attract attention, and prolly hatred as well. That said, almost everyone I know hates twilight because the vampires are sparkly. I like the fact that Stephanie Meyer didn't just rewrite dracula, but decided to reinterperit the legends. Why does everyone jump on the fact that she did this?v Nobody complains that the book Peeps changed the myths. Nobody complains that the Mercedes Thompson series and Alpha and omega series changed the werewolve myths. Is it just that these people are looking for some reason for thier hatred of the series?

Many people also complain about the books because they are "poorly written". This is not true. What she did, is she had a specific target audience: teenage females. Knowing this, she didnt waste her time trying to write with language or themes or dialogue they wouldn't understand. I have seen soooo many books with a good premise ruined because the author set their sights too high and was unable to write well enough to do what they tried to do. For these reasons, I respect Stephanie Meyers for being innovative, and for not trying to write a book in a way she was unable to accomplish.

Does anyone agree with me?
you know fully agree. Im sick of people slatin twilight casue its popular its anoying that 90% of the people doing it havent even seen it.
 

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I like twilight too, not for the plot or the writing or any part of the movie I was intended to like. But because of the awesome drinking games you can combine with it. Whenever Bella looks high or a vampire looks gay, you drink. It works, it's fun, I enjoy it. I enjoyed watching the twilight movies.
 

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Really liked it. (<-- Boy by the way)
However, I don't like the films, or the stroppy characters at points.
People don't like it because it's a romance, I think, and not too many boys will admit to liking a romance.

However, I'm mixed at the moment, as I'm playing Dracula in a play, and he's far better then a wimpy Edward.
 

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AboveUp said:
If you like something, like it.
If you dislike something, dislike it.

If you like something but pretend you don't because it's not popular or vice versa, there's something wrong with you. I don't personally like Twilight, but if you like it, that's good for you.

That's all I have to say on this subject. Now let's watch this thing turn into a painful flame thread by Twilight haters.
that is awesome, agreed on ... very true and awesome, also
i have no say in this, i havent read or seen them, i do not plan to read or see it
also vampyres dont sparkle they burn , or drink blood
 

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Where I dislike Twilight, I have to grudgingly sing its praises. It has managed to coax thousands of teenagers that "hate reading" into picking up a book and giving it a go, if only to follow a trend. That is a good thing, as I now have a few friends who have, through Twilight, developed a real taste for literature.

But, I don't like vampires or romance novels, that's just my opinion.
 

DanielO

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Tried to watch it. Got really, really, rèàlly annoyed after five minutes, over the hollow acting and stuff. So, I decided to return to shooting terrorists or nazi's in FPS's
 

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OMGWHAT!? *Prepares village pitchforks and torches to march through.. well, said village!*

OT: In all seriousness, however, your entitled to your opinion. I personally think any strain related to the series is a smudge of feces on the human intellect (or more specifically, the target audience), and should probably be burned ritualistically in the middle of said village until it wipes itself out of sheer existence at its basis. And..

..*Hems* In conclusion. We're all entitled to our opinions, in the end.
 

Miumaru

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A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...
This means that what something is, and what something is named are not bound by stone to eachother. I hate Twilight cause it sucks, but I do not hate them for ruining vampires, as I have realised it is not a vampire movie. Calling them vampires does not make them vampires, just as calling a turd a rose, does not make it smell nice.

Edit: I think I went off-topic though so...
If you want to like it, fine, I can't stop you, but keep it away from me. I mostly hate it due to its popularity by stupid "tweens" and the fact that "tweens" have ruined popularity...period.
 

hazabaza1

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Good for you. Do you expect us to bring out our torches and pictchforks or something?
Don't be sily.
 

Nazulu

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Probably one of those popular things to hate, and those start when it gets far more praise than it deserves. Frankly I agree, I didn't mind Twilight but I definitely wouldn't compare it to the greatest horror movies ever.