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I try to come into every game I play with an open mind. I seldom write off a game entirely before I get the chance to play it myself. I even gave Dragon Age 2 had a fair 'chance' to impress me, despite the immediate concerns I had.

So, off the top of my head:

[HEADING=2]DmC - Devil May Cry[/HEADING]

Oh yes, THAT game again.

I have a lot of thoughts about this game, but I'll preface them by saying this: Yes, I did want to like this game. I really, really did.

Perhaps the most recent example of going into a game I wanted to like with as little pre-existing bias as possible. Yes, I'm a fan of the franchise before this game, but I didn't let that stop me from attempting to enjoy this one. I was looking to what this game had to offer on it's own, and it's merits as an hack n slash spectacle fighter. I wanted to consider this game good on it's own.

The demo left me with a fairly positive impression. It wasn't great, but I saw potential. I thought the full game would be able to deliver on what I thought the demo was missing. So I got the game, and went into it with an open mind and expecting goodness.

Good was perhaps the only expectation I had going into the game. Which I don't think is an unreasonable expectation.

Sadly, the game was not good. On it's own, without comparing it to any other DMC game or any other spectacle fighter, this game has a lot of gameplay problems.

The game, was simply way too fucking easy. (Yes, on ALL difficulty levels. Including DMD and Hell and Hell.) Personally, this is a HUGE problem.

Enemies were sluggish and unresponsive.

Guns were almost completely worthless.

Red/Blue enemy types are heavy handed and boring, and become more frequent on higher difficulties.

Almost every single enemy in the game is a pushover.

The focus on aerial combat trivializes nearly every enemy in the game. So much so that I call the combat BROKEN.

Bosses are handled terribly. All of them require only a single strategy, and oddly become easier on higher difficulties (Due to the fact that the strategies don't change between difficulties) You just need to do the same thing you did before, and you'll beat them every time. Simply put, bosses in this game are not tests of skill.

Thats about all the major complaints I can think of, which sadly permeates every level of it's gameplay from beginning to end on all difficulties.

And that's not even TOUCHING the story in this game. I don't even have the energy to delve into it, but to sum it up: Boring. All of it. Every character, every aspect, every theme, every villain, every development, every single line of dialogue. It would've been favorable if new Dante was at least an entertaining character, but all he managed was to be slightly less boring than Vergil.

So yeah, i REALLY wanted to like this game. But I can only leave it in complete disappointment. It has so many problems, so many failures, and what's actually there that has any merit of quality - is middling and tepid. As far as spectacle fighters go, this is a forgettable one.
 

scorptatious

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FFP2 said:
I only got stone medals for most of the game:( Feel so incompetent now...

OT: Bioshock Infinite- The story is really good but my word it has the worst gameplay I've seen in a while. You know you messed up when the first game has better gameplay than the sequel with a $400 million budget.
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda feel the same way. After playing through Bioshock 1 a couple of times after playing through Infinite twice, I definitely prefer how the first game works. Not saying I dislike Infinite, I just kinda feel the combat was a missed opportunity.

Oh well. Hopefully in the next Bioshock, System Shock, or whatever title they're going to use "Shock" in, they'll work a bit more on refining the gameplay.
 

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scorptatious said:
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda feel the same way. After playing through Bioshock 1 a couple of times after playing through Infinite twice, I definitely prefer how the first game works. Not saying I dislike Infinite, I just kinda feel the combat was a missed opportunity.

Oh well. Hopefully in the next Bioshock, System Shock, or whatever title they're going to use "Shock" in, they'll work a bit more on refining the gameplay.
I even missed that stupid pipe dream minigame... It added a bit of variety to the game.

I prefered the atmosphere of the first one too. Infinite just felt dead to me.
 

scorptatious

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FFP2 said:
scorptatious said:
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda feel the same way. After playing through Bioshock 1 a couple of times after playing through Infinite twice, I definitely prefer how the first game works. Not saying I dislike Infinite, I just kinda feel the combat was a missed opportunity.

Oh well. Hopefully in the next Bioshock, System Shock, or whatever title they're going to use "Shock" in, they'll work a bit more on refining the gameplay.
I even missed that stupid pipe dream minigame... It added a bit of variety to the game.

I prefered the atmosphere of the first one too. Infinite just felt dead to me.
*shrugs* Can't really say I miss the hacking mini game myself, I would always either use buyout or auto hack unless I'm feeling particularly cheap.

As for the world and atmosphere, I thought they both excelled. It was a pretty nice contrast to the ruins of Rapture. Of course, which one you would like more is up to preference.

Overall, I do think Infinite was a good game, I just feel it's dragged down a bit by the gameplay.
 
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I really wanted to get into the Pearl Pokemon game. Me and a friend who loved the classic games decided to revive those days with the release of newer Pokemon games, but we just couldn't immerse into them.

For one there is no challenge at all (except that cave that required flash but I decided to go without). And speaking of the cave, it was pretty much the same adventure with the same elements. We didn't find them as charming as the previous games and the music was boring so I couldn't get into that either. Plus, there were hardly any Pokemon designs that we liked and none of the legendary's motivated us to look for them. After getting through most of the game in a day we just stopped caring.

I'm sure these all sound like little things but they add up. We really did try though and we were optimistic and stuff.
You should try Pokemon Black or White. They have all the charm of the early games, but with actual mechanics and graphics and gameplay and stuff.

Black 2 and White 2 not so much, but I maintain that Black and White are the best Pokemon games to date.
 

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scorptatious said:
*shrugs* Can't really say I miss the hacking mini game myself, I would always either use buyout or auto hack unless I'm feeling particularly cheap.

As for the world and atmosphere, I thought they both excelled. It was a pretty nice contrast to the ruins of Rapture. Of course, which one you would like more is up to preference.

Overall, I do think Infinite was a good game, I just feel it's dragged down a bit by the gameplay.
That part near the end where
You have to protect the airship and use Songbird and fight the same generic mooks you've always fought

really turned my dislike of the gameplay into hatred.

Still, it's my GOTY so far. At least until Blood Dragon comes out.
 

scorptatious

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FFP2 said:
scorptatious said:
*shrugs* Can't really say I miss the hacking mini game myself, I would always either use buyout or auto hack unless I'm feeling particularly cheap.

As for the world and atmosphere, I thought they both excelled. It was a pretty nice contrast to the ruins of Rapture. Of course, which one you would like more is up to preference.

Overall, I do think Infinite was a good game, I just feel it's dragged down a bit by the gameplay.
That part near the end where
You have to protect the airship and use Songbird and fight the same generic mooks you've always fought

really turned my dislike of the gameplay into hatred.

Still, it's my GOTY so far. At least until Blood Dragon comes out.
I actually like that section a bit.

If only because I can have Songbird destroy Zeppelins. Plus I kinda like the atmosphere to the battle

But yeah, I can see why people would dislike that section.
 

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Epic Mickey why'd you have to go and be so uninteresting?I played until I beat the Chinese place in the beginning and I stopped.

I didn't play enough to notice the camera. What I did notice was that the move-set was aesthetically identical to Mario Galaxy, and while the move-set looked the same, it felt worse to control over Galaxy. And it definitely wasn't as engaging as Galaxy.
 

Beautiful End

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So many:

-Mass Effect
-Grand Theft Auto 4
-Fallout
-Brutal Legend
-Call of Duty
-Elder Scrolls

That's all I can think of right now. Most of them look awesome in playthroughs and my friends love to play them and all. But I just can't force myself to get into them. Plot, characters, tiny, insignificant details, you name it. There's always something that stops me from fully liking them.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Dragon Age 2. I like the idea of the game and Hawke and Varric are pretty cool, it just has soooo many things wrong with it.
I'm hoping Dragon Age 3 will be better though I've heard it has multiplayer :| so yeah...
 

Azaraxzealot

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Call of Duty.

When it became a big mega-sensation I felt left out, but then my brother brought home a copy one day, played it for 5 minutes and was disgusted.
 

JasonKaotic

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Kingdom Hearts. It's got so much I'd normally love. It's got a great soundtrack, a good storyline (from what I've gathered, anyway), I really liked the non-cameo parts of the game, etc etc, but it's just... really not my cup of tea. I find the combat really boring (any game with only one attack button gets boring really fast for me, especially when enemy encounters last as long as they do in the Kingdom Hearts games), it's cheesy as all hell, the Disney stuff really took me out of it, the Final Fantasy cameos are horrendous, and just... agh. I keep playing it to force myself to get into it, but I just can't.
I suppose it's mainly because I'm a sucker for good soundtracks in games. Kingdom Hearts, you taunt me. And I hate you for it.
 

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FFP2 said:
MrHide-Patten said:
Bayonetta,I really liked the art direction and the character enough to finish the game, but getting slapped with bronze and silver medals made me feel like I was playing it wrong.
I only got stone medals for most of the game:( Feel so incompetent now...

OT: Bioshock Infinite- The story is really good but my word it has the worst gameplay I've seen in a while. You know you messed up when the first game has better gameplay than the sequel with a $400 million budget.

So this is how Daystar feels when he talks about Spec Ops' gameplay... Except that was supposed to be bland.
Heresy, you dareth speak ill of Bioshock Infinite, I bite thy thumb at the!
But I can't say the first one blew me away with it's game play.
 

FFP2

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scorptatious said:
I actually like that section a bit.

If only because I can have Songbird destroy Zeppelins. Plus I kinda like the atmosphere to the battle

But yeah, I can see why people would dislike that section.
It was very tense but way too hard on higher difficulties. And I didn't even use the OP vigors...


MrHide-Patten said:
Heresy, you dareth speak ill of Bioshock Infinite, I bite thy thumb at the!
But I can't say the first one blew me away with it's game play.
At least it was more varied/strategic than Infinte's. I can put up with iffy gameplay most of the time but this just irritated me.
 

MrHide-Patten

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At least it was more varied/strategic than Infinte's. I can put up with iffy gameplay most of the time but this just irritated me.
I did't find the original very stategic, probably because the game was so piss easy as that any statergy simply was 'shoot man with gun', but hey I'm not a very stategic player I don't think too far ahead when I'm playing games.

I hardly used any of the plasmids in the original and the 2 gun and ammo restrictions made me play with different guns and made me rely on the vigors more. But Infinite probably just suits my prefered gameplay style than yours.
 

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I really, REALLY wanted to like the Orange Box games, and TF2 was a lot of fun, but Half-Life and Portal...god damn it, they were just BORING!
 

SweetShark

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Otherwise...MGS HD. Particularly MGS3. The controls were SO BAD! That boss fight with The Fear just make me ragequit the game entirely. You have to hold like two aim buttons, a fire button and hit a small, fast moving, INVISIBLE target. Fuck that.

MGS2 was just a trainwreck all round. Don't even get me started on that travesty of a "game"
For that reason, one strategy you can use to defeat Fear is to throw to him poisoned food.
This will do the trick and he will become easier to kill.
 

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Balders Gate and NWN 2... only 2 d&d games Ive played... Balders gate because its 2nd edition and I cant stand playing for hours and finally gaining a level... and I get 4 hp. NWN 2 the combat and character mechanics seem so much better, but the characters and story just put me to sleep. I really would love to play them and enjoy them, but I seem to quit quarter way through each of them.
 

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Professor Lupin Madblood said:
Nazulu said:
I really wanted to get into the Pearl Pokemon game. Me and a friend who loved the classic games decided to revive those days with the release of newer Pokemon games, but we just couldn't immerse into them.

For one there is no challenge at all (except that cave that required flash but I decided to go without). And speaking of the cave, it was pretty much the same adventure with the same elements. We didn't find them as charming as the previous games and the music was boring so I couldn't get into that either. Plus, there were hardly any Pokemon designs that we liked and none of the legendary's motivated us to look for them. After getting through most of the game in a day we just stopped caring.

I'm sure these all sound like little things but they add up. We really did try though and we were optimistic and stuff.
You should try Pokemon Black or White. They have all the charm of the early games, but with actual mechanics and graphics and gameplay and stuff.

Black 2 and White 2 not so much, but I maintain that Black and White are the best Pokemon games to date.
Pokemon black and white is the most boring pokemon game i really wanted to like it cuz i liked the way the legendaries looked and i like pokemon but its the stupidest laziest pokemon generation update to this day i mean a fucking ice cream cone called vannilite i must say it was a improvement on gameplay but when you wanna catch em catching essentially a trashcan and a ice cream cone just seems retarded i mean i know they are running out of ideas but just make random additions on a living animal and stop with the making the what is it now 10 eevees?
 

Drummodino

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Assassin's Creed 3. I used to be a huge fan of the AC series. I ranked AC2 and even Brotherhood in my favourite games for a while. Revelations felt a bit tired but I liked Ezio so I still enjoyed it. But man was AC3 bad. None of the characters were interesting (especially Connor), the whole convoluted pieces of eden jazz got annoying and nobody mentioned what had happened regarding the ending of brotherhood in the first 5 hours!! I didn't play anymore then that because they started introducing the homestead renovations and I just couldn't make my self get through that crap. 5 hours of tutorials had worn me down and broken my love of that franchise :(

Also Dues Ex: HR. I liked the ideas, I liked setting but I just couldn't get into it. I just got bored.