id Software Praises "Always On" in Diablo 3
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You know what I think of here? Titan quest. Great game, launched to a deafening silence. ILE went out of business soon after.
So what if it had been online-only? What if it had used this system?
Simple: I would never have been able to play it again. I would have owned a very pretty $40 coaster, all because some wig in a suit decided his shareholders were more important than his customers. Now, certainly each company will say your game's activation is safe in their hands because, after all, they're blizzard! They're ea! They're huge, and they deserve your trust... Right?
To which I say, remember Midway Games? Black isle studios? There is no studio or publisher too big or too good to fail, gentlemen, and we would be wise not to trust any studio to safeguard something we own.
So what if it had been online-only? What if it had used this system?
Simple: I would never have been able to play it again. I would have owned a very pretty $40 coaster, all because some wig in a suit decided his shareholders were more important than his customers. Now, certainly each company will say your game's activation is safe in their hands because, after all, they're blizzard! They're ea! They're huge, and they deserve your trust... Right?
To which I say, remember Midway Games? Black isle studios? There is no studio or publisher too big or too good to fail, gentlemen, and we would be wise not to trust any studio to safeguard something we own.
Look, Tim (yeah, I know you probably don't read a forum like this), you can praise the 'positive' aspects of this all you like, but the downsides are real, and just... Not acceptable to a surprising number of people.
I don't want to lose access to all my games just because my ISP is having an off day.
How about when I moved and it took my ISP 3 months to install the new connection?
3 months with no games at all?
Nor do I like the fact that you are essentially making my gaming laptop useless.
Or, do you think I would even own a gaming laptop just because it looks cooler?
(Though I could take issue with laptop manufacturers here too. Do you know how long it's taken for someone to catch on to the idea that people might actually want a 'gaming laptop' that's actually portable?
So... Yeah. Keep trying to convince people that this obnoxious idea should become the only possible way to play games...
What planet do you live on that makes you think even those of us lucky enough to have high-speed cable internet, with no download caps, at reasonable cost, will never, ever have connection problems...
I mean, it was bad enough when I had internet issues and thought I'd play some steam games in offline mode.
Well, nope. Most of my games had decided to 'update' recently, and the internet cut out in the middle of that.
As a result pretty much none of those games was available in offline mode.
And you want to do that on purpose?
I don't want to lose access to all my games just because my ISP is having an off day.
How about when I moved and it took my ISP 3 months to install the new connection?
3 months with no games at all?
Nor do I like the fact that you are essentially making my gaming laptop useless.
Or, do you think I would even own a gaming laptop just because it looks cooler?
(Though I could take issue with laptop manufacturers here too. Do you know how long it's taken for someone to catch on to the idea that people might actually want a 'gaming laptop' that's actually portable?
So... Yeah. Keep trying to convince people that this obnoxious idea should become the only possible way to play games...
What planet do you live on that makes you think even those of us lucky enough to have high-speed cable internet, with no download caps, at reasonable cost, will never, ever have connection problems...
I mean, it was bad enough when I had internet issues and thought I'd play some steam games in offline mode.
Well, nope. Most of my games had decided to 'update' recently, and the internet cut out in the middle of that.
As a result pretty much none of those games was available in offline mode.
And you want to do that on purpose?
Sadly most gamers are cattle who will blindly buy something without thinking about what it is they are really buying. Kinda like Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, where the new fighters were promised DLC but instead are just bundled to one disc with no new real features.Elamdri said:
Woooooow. That guy sounds like a colossal douche. So we are all cattle to be herded? We'll be forced to accept something we don't want and that is a good thing? Ugh.
PR about this situation is getting worse and worse.
PR about this situation is getting worse and worse.
Yeah, I think I'm going to have to choose to lump it; if this is going to be typical of mainstream PC games in the future, I have no interest in it as a gaming platform, which sucks because it is my preferred means of playing games.
And, christ, I hope that people will hold to their principles and boycott Diablo 3; the flip-side of his point is that if Diablo does worse than expected, it could discourage other companies doing the same.
And, christ, I hope that people will hold to their principles and boycott Diablo 3; the flip-side of his point is that if Diablo does worse than expected, it could discourage other companies doing the same.
I have an very excellent internet connection, hardly ever get any downtime.
But thia is just wrong.
I should not have to be connected to a server to play a single player game.
It's just no right, and I believe that it says a little something about what developers and publishers think of us lowly gamers.
Apparantly we are criminal scum that must be supervised 24/7 or else we would rob them blind.
I will not tolerate being treated this way and I will boicott any developer/publisher that implenments any solution like this.
I have been looking forward to Diablo 3 for years now, but won't be getting it.
Sorry Blizz, as much as I love you, that is a step too far.
But thia is just wrong.
I should not have to be connected to a server to play a single player game.
It's just no right, and I believe that it says a little something about what developers and publishers think of us lowly gamers.
Apparantly we are criminal scum that must be supervised 24/7 or else we would rob them blind.
I will not tolerate being treated this way and I will boicott any developer/publisher that implenments any solution like this.
I have been looking forward to Diablo 3 for years now, but won't be getting it.
Sorry Blizz, as much as I love you, that is a step too far.
Inb4 day 1 patch that renders this DRM useless by creating an offline mode.
But that would be illegal wouldn't it Blizzard? Can't have that now can we...
But that would be illegal wouldn't it Blizzard? Can't have that now can we...
Sure, they can think of this as the future if they want. But it will always be unacceptable and it will be a future where I buy a hell of a lot less games. I love how he also forgets that it's not just being connected to the internet, it's also keeping the servers online. Nobody should ever not be able to play single player because some server went down.
Also I don't need your social networking "there's something new you didn't know about, and you didn't have to click away. It's all automatically there" bullshit in my games. As for having patches automatically download, let me introduce you to my good friend Steam. It keeps games patched for me AND it doesn't force me to stop playing if my connection or their servers go down.
So let's review, always online has no advantages that aren't already offered by other services without an always online requirement, and one giant massive heaping disadvantage that should be telling everyone that they should not use this crap.
But as always, I will vote with my wallet. Fuck Diablo 3, and fuck any id games that use this DRM as well.
Also I don't need your social networking "there's something new you didn't know about, and you didn't have to click away. It's all automatically there" bullshit in my games. As for having patches automatically download, let me introduce you to my good friend Steam. It keeps games patched for me AND it doesn't force me to stop playing if my connection or their servers go down.
So let's review, always online has no advantages that aren't already offered by other services without an always online requirement, and one giant massive heaping disadvantage that should be telling everyone that they should not use this crap.
But as always, I will vote with my wallet. Fuck Diablo 3, and fuck any id games that use this DRM as well.
Ah, Penny Arcade. Always missing the point (yet again someone forgets that the servers you have to connect to can go down) and always not funny. Why do people read these things?Zero_ctrl said:
You know with in a few week if not hour someone will unofficaly patch the game so no net needed. It's as dumb as thinking pirate won't find away around and then being suprised when it end up costing you money becuase poeple who would of gotten it from a store pirate it in protest.
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Why don't these idiots get that this will only drive paying customers INTO PIRACY, not away from it. Pirating diablo 3 will be easy, it will only take pirates minimal time to make a crack to turn it off, and pirates will have a better gaming experience than paying customers.
Does this asshole have any clue how often internet goes down for any length of time? If people can't play PC games with their internet down then they're basicaly 'renting' the game and it should be about 20 bucks.
Fuck these corporate suits, Big devs and publishers aren't worth supporting anymore and I hope the pirates really stick it to Blizz-Ack because they don't deserve the money they're charging for an online game and an auction house that makes single player rare items super-rare to drive up auction house prices.
I have ZERO sympathy for all the big publishers when they whine about lost "potential sales". They expect gamers to understand how wrong it is to pirate and how it affects them, but then give a big middle finger with shit like this.
Does this asshole have any clue how often internet goes down for any length of time? If people can't play PC games with their internet down then they're basicaly 'renting' the game and it should be about 20 bucks.
Fuck these corporate suits, Big devs and publishers aren't worth supporting anymore and I hope the pirates really stick it to Blizz-Ack because they don't deserve the money they're charging for an online game and an auction house that makes single player rare items super-rare to drive up auction house prices.
I have ZERO sympathy for all the big publishers when they whine about lost "potential sales". They expect gamers to understand how wrong it is to pirate and how it affects them, but then give a big middle finger with shit like this.
