id Software Praises "Always On" in Diablo 3

[ph0b0s123]

gamers are so stupid that they will buy a game that hurts them with onwership rights cause they want to play it.

And that sentence right there is the source of all these problems. There is no such thing as "Ownership rights" to a video game. You have "Licensing Rights."

Whether it is ownership rights or licensing still people should stand-up to what they don't like. Otherwise these companies can write whatever licensing terms they want. Like you have to give us your first born every-time you want to play.

I don't mind that on-line is being used to give people extra features. But this is not the case here this is purely for DRM purposes. All the goodies he mentions has all been done before without needing to have DRM. So the only reason this is need is for DRM and that's it. Everything else he mentioned can be done without DRM. There is no reason for single player games to require internet connections.

The reason I hate this is it will not end with games. I expect that all consumer electronics products I buy in the future to require always on internet connections so they can make sure you are using the product how the manufactures want you to.

I fully expect a system like that to be used to prevent you from selling the gadget as when you get it you will have to register it to your name before you can use it and if you sell it the new owner will have to pay a registration fee before they can use it.

So this whole idea of internet connections being required when not needed, sole for the purposes of control of the consumer, needs to be knock on the head now, before it spreads.

 

[Elamdri]

Id Software only likes this Always On DRM Diablo 3 has because of all the Rage its generating!


But no... seriously, Diablo 3 won't make me like it because Diablo 3 isn't the king of its genre anymore. We got Torchlight, Mythos, and a bunch of other games that cater to fans of its subsection now. And just like I haven't bought Starcraft 2, I won't be buying Diablo 3.

I got kinda bored of Torchlight.

 

[Cipher1]

You cant force people to like anything sure you can force them to endure it if they want something bad enough but that dosnt mean there gonna thank you for it.

 

[Aspergo]

anc[is]"If our game is popular enough, millions of our most loyal drooling morons will buy it regardless of what we do, so we can steamroll and force everyone to do what we want. Deal with it trolololo"

Fuck you Id

Epic response and really sums what Id said XD

 

[Elamdri]

Whether it is ownership rights or licensing still people should stand-up to what they don't like. Otherwise these companies can write whatever licensing terms they want. Like you have to give us your first born every-time you want to play.

No, companies cannot write "whatever licensing terms they want." It's a contract like any other and it has to pass certain contractual requirements, (It' can't be illegal, unconscionable, ect.)

I don't mind that on-line is being used to give people extra features. But this is not the case here this is purely for DRM purposes. All the goodies he mentions has all been done before without needing to have DRM. So the only reason this is need is for DRM and that's it. Everything else he mentioned can be done without DRM. There is no reason for single player games to require internet connections.

I don't think it's for DRM purposes to be honest. It's certainly a nice side benefit for Blizzard, but I think the real reason here is that they want to encourage more people to be online so more people use the cash AH, which Blizzard is going to make money off of.

The reason I hate this is it will not end with games. I expect that all consumer electronics products I buy in the future to require always on internet connections so they can make sure you are using the product how the manufactures want you to.

I fully expect a system like that to be used to prevent you from selling the gadget as when you get it you will have to register it to your name before you can use it and if you sell it the new owner will have to pay a registration fee before they can use it.

Probably. But, and I've said this a lot, that future is inevitable. Personally, I would much prefer to ride the wave of destruction that to stand against it and be demolished.

 

[Rawne1980]

So I want the customers to be punched in the gut when playing Diablo 3. ANd it's really a good idea because that means pirates are less likely to pirate the game.

How?

A pirate copy will just be offline only.

You can still play just never online, it just comes with a crack exe that bypass drm.

 

[Whateveralot]

Finally, some people that actually think about things share their opinions on the matter.

Like Blizzard, I didn't expect "always online" to be a problem any more. We're always connected to the internet anyway. The only real reason to not want this is because you're afraid hackers won't come up with a solution so they might actually have to buy the game instead of pirating it.

 

[Keava]

I'll start embracing always online the moment the companies behind games using such system will provide me a constant, un-interrupted internet connection wherever i am, thank you.

We already don't really buy those games but only a license to play them, so the game better work for me once i actually install it no matter if i can or cannot connect or internet at given moment. Take that away from me and you won't see my money any time soon. Simple as that.

If i want to play an always-online game i re-sub to one of many MMOs which at least have reason behind being always-online.

 

[lacktheknack]

Didn't Blizzard say there would be an offline mode that they simply expected no one would use?

 

[Elamdri]

I dont see the problem, Ill just pirate it, no need to be online to play it then.

You are everything that is wrong with everything, everywhere, forever.

 

[Elamdri]

Didn't Blizzard say there would be an offline mode that they simply expected no one would use?

That was like a year ago, things have changed.

 

[fenrizz]

Finally, some people that actually think about things share their opinions on the matter.

Like Blizzard, I didn't expect "always online" to be a problem any more. We're always connected to the internet anyway. The only real reason to not want this is because you're afraid hackers won't come up with a solution so they might actually have to buy the game instead of pirating it.

Or it may be a matter of principle.

I, as a legitimate paying customer, should not have to be treated like a criminal.
It has nothing at all to do with me wanting to pirate Diablo 3, or any other game, as you for some reason seem to believe.

 

[IzisviAziria]

I dunno, my stance on things is that it's not a good idea nor is it practical to go down to the shore and yell out to the tide that it should not come in.

Ya, but the tide isn't dependent on thousands of people throwing $60 into it. it's a pretty simple problem though. Don't like it, don't buy it. I don't like it, and I won't buy it. All I can do is hope enough people feel the same way for it to significantly impact sales.

 

[w00tage]

Aaaand Tom Willits pulls both Id's and Blizzard's pants down for the next major game server hacks. Not that Blizzard didn't already have their belt unfastened and were working on the buttons when he said this.

 

[fenrizz]

I dunno, my stance on things is that it's not a good idea nor is it practical to go down to the shore and yell out to the tide that it should not come in.

Ya, but the tide isn't dependent on thousands of people throwing $60 into it. it's a pretty simple problem though. Don't like it, don't buy it. I don't like it, and I won't buy it. All I can do is hope enough people feel the same way for it to significantly impact sales.

I hope so too.

But I have a feeling that those lost sales will be blamed on piracy anyway.
It makes me sad.

 

[-Dragmire-]

I just have a feeling that eventually we'll have to pay $60 again for a license extension in order to 'support the expenses of authentication servers' if we want to play our old games in the future. I still play games I got 15 years ago, in 15 years from now, I'm not sure if I'll be able to play the games I get today, even if I have everything needed to run it and that is a sad future.

 

[Elamdri]

I dunno, my stance on things is that it's not a good idea nor is it practical to go down to the shore and yell out to the tide that it should not come in.

Ya, but the tide isn't dependent on thousands of people throwing $60 into it. it's a pretty simple problem though. Don't like it, don't buy it. I don't like it, and I won't buy it. All I can do is hope enough people feel the same way for it to significantly impact sales.

Never will happen. Which is why I compare it to trying to stop the tide from coming in. Gamers love to do two things. Complain and purchase video games. Look at Call of Duty. Every time a Call of Duty game comes out, people complain. Then what happens? They all buy the next Call of Duty.

Every time a new WoW expansion comes out, what does everyone do? They complain. Then when the next expansion comes out, they all buy the new expansion.

It's the same thing over and over again. Consumers being able to effect the market is some 60's anti-capitalist BS that they teach to starry-eyed kids in High School, before life kicks you out into the world and they realize that if they throw a fit and say "Well you won't get my money" then companies just laugh as three more willing customers walk into the door while you walk out. Meanwhile, you get to sit at home with no Diablo 3 while your friends all are playing Diablo 3 online and having a blast because you decided to rest on principle.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Well Blizzard does have the kind of power that Ubisoft doesn't. I can see them imposing there tyrannical will and forcing people to step in line or die. Unfortunately, this is also going to galvanize things even more since this is basically saying "join or die" and lots of people aren't going to like that.

 

[AdumbroDeus]

I dont see the problem, Ill just pirate it, no need to be online to play it then.

You are everything that is wrong with everything, everywhere, forever.

Actually, more the reason why this drm scheme doesn't work.