You mean those two sentences you took out of context? Great.Uriel-238 said:I wonder if you see the irony of accusing me of this:
So that your point is that you didn't actually have a point to anything you were talking about, and instead wanted to feel-good rant about how oppressive countries were way back when.Uriel-238 said:My point was that "forgiving Japan for being bigots" on the grounds that it's Japan is, itself, bigoted. It would be like saying we should forgive the US for hating black people because Americans are too dense to rise above our cultural prejudices. That's bullshit. Every nation has its prejudices, its racial and sexual biases and we should all strive for better. Including the US. Including Japan.
Which, again, has nothing to add or has any relation to this conversation about video games. In fact I'm still confused why you brought it up at all or what place it has in this discussion about video games.
You've gone from "They should feel bad about this" to "They should have strived for better". This is on the topic of a game made in a few months released in a limited market that would have come and gone if it weren't for this controversy (which has made it sell quite well, so complaining about it clearly hasn't worked). A game released in a sea of games that don't even have relationship options at all but I don't see you complaining about those either. Maybe you can at least understand the irony in that.Uriel-238 said:And so should those people who make shovelware. Even Ed Fucking Wood took immense pride in the films he made. I'm pretty sure the devs of shovelware are looking to make something in the hopes that it isn't called shovelware on release. Even the folks who made Dungeon Keeper did it thinking they were making a playable, enjoyable game that wasn't designed to entrap whales. Most of the devs at least.
Just because we expect a particular behavior from a particular sector doesn't make that behavior right or tolerable. We see a lot of inexcusable behavior in the name of tradition or common practice or cultural bias. In the game industry, it's due to best practices, franchise conventions or expected features. It's all bullshit, no matter what kind of polish you apply.
And also, do you genuinely believe that shovelware devs are not aware that they are making shovelware? That Imagine Party Babiez and Barbie Dreamhouse devs were not aware that they were making a hollow collection of minigames meant to capitalize on a trend? Maybe next time you can write them a memo informing them of that, since they seem to be so blissfully unaware.
This sentence alone pretty much explains why we're having this argument in the first place: I don't think you're being fair to the conversation at hand or even particularly well-informed about it. You seem definitely well-informed about everything not related in the least to this conversation and are more than willing to tell us about it.Uriel-238 said:Now, yes, gay relationships in Tomodachi Life came about by accident (or through an exploit) but I'll address that in a later post so that you can fling poo at me about it separately, as is evidently your joy in life.
But we're not discussing those things, so why bring them up?
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Also, I culled your footnotes. I find those really annoying as opposed to just using parentheses pairs to denote matters that are your own personal opinion.