Err, time out, it has a meaning.LordFisheh said:I don't like the 'true meaning of Christmas' stuff that gets thrown about. There is no true meaning; the meaning is whatever people decide to give it. Once upon a time, it was a celebration that winter would start to recede and take the cold and hardships with it. That could be considered the 'true' original meaning, despite the fact that it's totally outdated and that none of us suffer any real seasonal hardships at all. To someone starving in a war zone, the true meaning of Christmas may be precisely nothing. Likewise if someone has a consumerist Christmas and cares only about food and presents then, for them, shinies are the 'true' meaning. I'm not saying that the consumerism is a good thing, but any kind of 'true meaning' is a lie. So complain about selfish children getting xboxes all you like, but don't pretend that they're violating some kind of universe-spanning law on the true meaning of the 25th day of the last month of the year.
Oh bloody hell some people just need to be slaped across the tits with a wet fishChromanin said:Thanks for the laugh, but ritualized happiness through materialism is just as bad.Erja_Perttu said:Dude, chill. Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore. The power of Santa compels you!
Sure you are, I'm not at all religious but I celebrate Christmas, that being the commercialism event this formally Pagan festival has evolved into. It's not a commendation to that great bloke Jesus anymore it's an excuse for a trade of presents and a spot of joyous gluttony during the least likable season of the year.Rednog said:Err, time out, it has a meaning.LordFisheh said:I don't like the 'true meaning of Christmas' stuff that gets thrown about. There is no true meaning; the meaning is whatever people decide to give it. Once upon a time, it was a celebration that winter would start to recede and take the cold and hardships with it. That could be considered the 'true' original meaning, despite the fact that it's totally outdated and that none of us suffer any real seasonal hardships at all. To someone starving in a war zone, the true meaning of Christmas may be precisely nothing. Likewise if someone has a consumerist Christmas and cares only about food and presents then, for them, shinies are the 'true' meaning. I'm not saying that the consumerism is a good thing, but any kind of 'true meaning' is a lie. So complain about selfish children getting xboxes all you like, but don't pretend that they're violating some kind of universe-spanning law on the true meaning of the 25th day of the last month of the year.
It is a Christian holiday with a set history and meaning.
Just because someone who isn't a Christian is celebrating on that same day doesn't mean they are celebrating Christmas. If you're not doing the whole Jesus religion thing then you aren't doing Christmas, it is as simple as that.
Erja_Perttu said:Dude, chill. Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore. The power of Santa compels you!Chromanin said:I hate Christmas. It's offensive in every way. Someone ought to tell these people that Christmas is pagan in origin and has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
Indeed. Christmas be CAH-RAY-ZEE!saucecode said:I kinda feel yourpainemotion.
I really dont care about gifts, more about being around other people celebrating with tables of delicious food. Its the single time of the year where im social, really.
I think you'll be wanting this:Jonluw said:Also. Let me guess: You're 15, aren't you?
But to answer your question: No you're not the only one. You're never the only one.
That should just be in the forum rules or something. It's really strange to see so many people apparently thinking "Oh maybe I'm the special one in the world." :3Jonluw said:No you're not the only one. You're never the only one.