binnsyboy said:Indeed. Christmas be CAH-RAY-ZEE!saucecode said:I kinda feel yourpainemotion.
I really dont care about gifts, more about being around other people celebrating with tables of delicious food. Its the single time of the year where im social, really.
I think you'll be wanting this:Jonluw said:Also. Let me guess: You're 15, aren't you?
But to answer your question: No you're not the only one. You're never the only one.
Wonderful the things you can find to get your point across on this very site...
No more birthday parties for you.Chromanin said:Thanks for the laugh, but ritualized happiness through materialism is just as bad.Erja_Perttu said:Dude, chill. Christmas isn't even a religious holiday anymore. The power of Santa compels you!
I thought that's what Christmas was about, beer and food, was else was it about?Woodsey said:I agree: we shouldn't let the gifts totally detract from the food and beer.
What do you mean 'for some reason'? I can't think of a single Christmas holiday that isn't a bastardized version of a pagan holiday. Then there is the whole Old/New Testament thing.Pyramid Head said:I personally am not much of a man for the holidays because i view many of them as hypocritical. Christmas was never a Christian holiday, it was originally a pagan holiday that Christians hijacked for some reason, and even then with that pretext it still remains little more than a consumer whore holiday marked by the appearance of whiny shit kids at all of my hangouts and these ugly decorations. But i personally hate Thanksgiving more. We're really supposed to celebrate what was probably a forced meeting between white settlers and American Indians that would later evolve into a practical genocide of the natives? FUCK. THAT.
But i'm only bitter on Thanksgiving. Christmas? I just don't make a big deal out of it.
Well Santa Claus in his modern red coat fat form was created by Coca-Cola and the holiday was just originally a Pagan holiday meant to celebrate Winter Solstice , taken to create converts. The sharing creations were made by corporations to make it a cultural tool it can manipulate to its advantage and increase profits, hence why say Thanksgiving or labor day won't have universal celebrate by companies Christmas will.ectoplasmicz said:The thing thatdisgustsannoys me the most is the spoilt children. A lot of these kids get a ridiculous number of presents, when neither them or their families understand what christmas is actaully about. It all just seems like another excuse to receive gifts, and another excuse of a holiday.
I'm in pretty much the same situation and I've also got really crappy christmas memories from when I was young so see it more as a nice 4 day holiday with a good excuse to listen to cheesy music and watch Muppet Christmas Carol again. However, I'm determined that if/when I have kids they will enjoy it a damn sight more then I ever did.Carnagath said:Being in my late 20's and living alone, I also am not too bothered about Christmas. I don't even do any decorations, it just seems pointless and silly.
That makes sense. When I say Christmas, I mean the entire generalised festival... not sure what the name for that would be. *Christ*mas would be a Christian festival, so it'd have the Christian meaning - though even the identity of that is open to debate. But the true meaning of the non-specific general winter festival season thing that most celebrate is still undefined IMO. So while fewer and fewer and people are following the true meaning of Christmas, that debate would be more about the decline of a faith than the true meaning that people try to impose on the general festival itself.Rednog said:Err, time out, it has a meaning.LordFisheh said:I don't like the 'true meaning of Christmas' stuff that gets thrown about. There is no true meaning; the meaning is whatever people decide to give it. Once upon a time, it was a celebration that winter would start to recede and take the cold and hardships with it. That could be considered the 'true' original meaning, despite the fact that it's totally outdated and that none of us suffer any real seasonal hardships at all. To someone starving in a war zone, the true meaning of Christmas may be precisely nothing. Likewise if someone has a consumerist Christmas and cares only about food and presents then, for them, shinies are the 'true' meaning. I'm not saying that the consumerism is a good thing, but any kind of 'true meaning' is a lie. So complain about selfish children getting xboxes all you like, but don't pretend that they're violating some kind of universe-spanning law on the true meaning of the 25th day of the last month of the year.
It is a Christian holiday with a set history and meaning.
Just because someone who isn't a Christian is celebrating on that same day doesn't mean they are celebrating Christmas. If you're not doing the whole Jesus religion thing then you aren't doing Christmas, it is as simple as that.