Don't knock my boy Calendar Man (the main villain of the best Batman story every written) or I swear to god...undeadsuitor said:
In Regards to Wild West
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Okay.
Stop the finger pointing and blame game, okay?
Aaaaaaand....Silentpony said:
This isn't about any one specific thread that triggered us mods to have a discussion about closing down access to WW. It's about the general tone and posting habits of people in WW that led to the decision of closing it down.Arnoxthe1 said:
Stop the finger pointing and blame game, okay?
Dude, check out The Long Halloween. Hands down the best Batman story (The Dark Knight was partially based on it, but I honestly like TLH more than TDK).undeadsuitor said:
Actually I had a question on that - is the Wild West simply locked or was it removed? Like I can still see it in my drop-down list of subforums, its just a 404 page not found thing.Fiz_The_Toaster said:
It's there, for now.Silentpony said:
It just makes it easier for us to move threads from there to wherever depending if an OP wants their thread moved. I know we've moved a couple already, but we're just waiting to see if anyone else wants their thread moved or not.
So, yeah, it's pretty temporary.
It was me! I shut the place down with terrible behaviour that set new and disconcerting lows! I sure showed you all!
Sadly, like, all of the behaviour was right before the mods closed it, so none of you ever saw it. Just take my word for it.
Sadly, like, all of the behaviour was right before the mods closed it, so none of you ever saw it. Just take my word for it.
Indeed.Marik2 said:
I know that I won't be coming back here if the WW stays gone.
I'll just get my Yahtzee fix on youtube instead.
Like what? Genuinely asking, not just being an ass.Marik2 said:I'm just sad that I didn't take full advantage of the Wild West, due to not having a computer.
I had a ton of things planned for it.
I have been pretty honest about the reason why we came to this conclusion. This isn't about singling out specific users.Marik2 said:
Making piracy threads, baiting mods, and linking sources.BreakfastMan said:Like what? Genuinely asking, not just being an ass.Marik2 said:I'm just sad that I didn't take full advantage of the Wild West, due to not having a computer.
I had a ton of things planned for it.
I wanted to post chapters on a couple of my favorite mangas and commentate on them.
Wasn't this decision enacted against SJWs? For the benefit of a conservative? The SJWs doing the hate Speech? I'm personally for hate speech laws ONLY if it applies to everyone. Anyone calling others Nazis or Racists included. It's seems to me like the mods benefited conversatives so they can be protected.Vendor-Lazarus said:I'm pretty pissed off right now, I can tell you. Dastardly move!
The "right side" calling themselves "the good guys" have yet again decided what's best for everyone, despite being against the voting majority, and be the ones who'll gain by being able to skirt or bend the rules if its done against "the enemy", while being absolved of any wrongdoings because of political bias in the Mod group.
Now we'll have no outlet to vent at all, especially when we see the same usual suspects get away with "literally murder".
We also won't be able to call them out, since we'll be hit with warnings for personal attacks and calling people trolls.
Reporting doesn't do much when both rule-breaker and rule-decider belong to the same group, but you can expect reports to increase dramatically..
I'd rather have a rule-free zone where people can out themselves than not being able to say anything for fear of the made-up "hate-speech" thought-crime rules.
I've still got the list of people who voted for or against the Wild West.
Would it surprise anyone to know that most of the Mods and the SJW's were against WW?
I can only echo this:
crimson5pheonix said:
If I can make one thing clear to you, it's this. It's not just some people on the Left who are against Free Speech. Many people on the Right are too. It just not called hate speech. The a Right use terms like ducks and snowflakes to shut down any conversation the Left might have. The discussion you had about Trans people on the other thread isn't really about science. It's about the Left and Right fighting about how people should be treated. Unfortunately, science gets used for political purposes. It's Political Correctness, by both Left AND Right. (Side Note: just becuase the Right doesn't get called out for it PCness, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.)
My current biggest fear with Trump is that he's going to start locking up journalists for reporting the news. He's already half way there with his Fake News shenanigans about anything he disagrees with. He's about to go full Putin. He's already impacting Freedom of the Press, when is it going to get to Free Speech. (My guess is before the end of his first term.)
You've been trying call out people over the last few years in WW. Did it work? On anyone? People were calling you out. Did it work on you? Did you change your behaviour from a call out? Are you even considering it with my arguement? This is the specific reason why I'd be against WW. Funnily enough Free Speech doesn't lead to actual free speech. It just leads to insults and shut downs. And angry people. I'm hoping rules on insults will stop this but it probably won't.
I know I'm not a regular poster, or one of the "well known" players here, but I've been coming and going for a while, and tend to do so these days simply to read the forums on popular media or divisive opinions, which I usually do through the Wild West to get a proper, unfiltered idea of people's thoughts (before the same 3 to 4 people begin arguing).
I've posted a few threads about writing, and tried to engage in a discussion, and I preferred to use the Wild West for that because (again) I wanted unfiltered opinions and responses. I would rather deal with someone(s) being intensely rude and horrible if it means being able to discuss those matters in a forum where people can speak however they want. The Wild West was the only place here I could get that; a strange middle ground between anonymity and recognition, where I can recognize users but they can speak freely without fear of recourse.
I know my leaving will be of no consequence to anyone here. Just one more lurker into the ether. One more visitor gone.
I just wanted to voice my thoughts on the subject. Do with it what you will.
I've posted a few threads about writing, and tried to engage in a discussion, and I preferred to use the Wild West for that because (again) I wanted unfiltered opinions and responses. I would rather deal with someone(s) being intensely rude and horrible if it means being able to discuss those matters in a forum where people can speak however they want. The Wild West was the only place here I could get that; a strange middle ground between anonymity and recognition, where I can recognize users but they can speak freely without fear of recourse.
I know my leaving will be of no consequence to anyone here. Just one more lurker into the ether. One more visitor gone.
I just wanted to voice my thoughts on the subject. Do with it what you will.
WW hasn't been fun for a long time anyway, most of the folks who made it fun retreated to a user group that moved offsite when the rest of the site got boring. It's only been used for hatefests and bullying for a while now; even though I voted to keep the WW open, and made a few posts that quite clearly and vitriolically gave my opinion on the motivation for the desire to shut it down in the first place, I don't actually blame the mods for closing it down at this point in time, since all it did was put out bad vibes. Closing it down doesn't actually eliminate that bad blood, it only takes out an outlet, but solving that old problem is beyond the scope of a bunch of unpaid volunteers.
I'm laughing that that's the take from the guy who launched the last and one of the uglier bullying threads that got the place shut down.Souplex said: