In your opinion, what's the most overrated video game ever?

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skywolfblue said:
Well, I can't speak for Cataclysm or Mists of Pandaria, but I know Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King had a plethora of raid fights that required a huge amount of teamwork/coordination. Vashj/Kael/Sunwell/Yogg-0 required crazy amounts of coordination/tactics when they were current.
Yeah, Vashj and Kael were both beasts. I had the most fun Flame tanking on Illidan.

...Mostly because I got the chance to show how much of a scrub the other Flame tanker (our raid leader) was.
 

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Mario 64. Horrible camera, horrible controls. As soon as the whole novelty of a 3D Mario game wears off you've got to realise that platforming is flat out superior in 2D. Feel free to disagree.
I agree with this, I never really got into like I did with the SNES Mario games. It just felt a bit weird to control.
 

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Guild Wars 2. Holy crap... so much wrong with the game itself, and is over-haul a pretty horrible game. Good idea, good philosophy, but just came out terrible. ._. Which is sad, because I love Guild Wars 2.. well I used to.
I also vote for Guild Wars 2. Insane hype and it turned out fairly crap. It promised to reinvigorate the MMO genre, yet to me it didn't do anything that great and all the things it promised to improve just ended up being worse.
Not only that but the combat is just terrible, and if you just take out the gimmick dodge mechanic.. It's just like WoW. I like the approach Cryptic did with Neverwinter. They made it stand-still combat, but made it feel like it had weight behind it instead of float-y-ness. Yeah, it's a little more boring, but in a sense. It's more appealing to the eyes.

The quest system? The only thing they truly changed.. THE ONLY THING. Was running back, and forth. Dynamic Events were for the most part.. a horrible idea. Well the way Guild Wars 2 did it made it horrible.

It's no longer ? + x = !
It's <3 + x = Mail.
Hell the combat isn't just like WoW. It's worse than WoW. At least WoW required strategy and teamplay (don't know if it still does, I haven't played it for a long time). Guild Wars 2 is just a massive spam zerg fest. And yes the dynamic events are just crap and boring.
Since did WoW really have any content that uses in-depth strategy, and teamplay? Hell.. get a good raid team together, and get a good healer. That's all you really need. That's ALL YOU EVER NEEDED. Maybe once a new dungeon is released, and people who haven't done it needed to learn the ropes.

But if you're telling your healer to heal you. He's doing his job wrong.
There's actually little teamplay needed in WoW. Never has been, never will be.

Maybe like.. "Oh the boss just crit me. Bring up the back up tank, and battle res me."
But nothing beyond that is really needed.
Oh you dragon slayer. ^.^

WoW has tons of in depth strategy, split second decisions and unbelievable ammount of team work.

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OT: GTA 4. You can do a lot of things, but all those things are implemented in a shitty way. Shitty driving. Shitty shooting. Shitty cover. Shitty RPG elements? Stockpiling shit doesn't yield a so-so game, it yields a lot of shit.
 

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DotA/LoL - never have I seen a game that is easy to access at first turn into something that new players simply can not get in to. I understand a game can not be blamed for its current community but in the case of LoL and DotA its gameplay breeds that type of community.
 

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bastardofmelbourne said:
Psychonauts

Yeah, I said it
I'm going to have to echo that. I got into it late (only this last year) and never saw anything that was earth-shattering. Don't get me wrong, it was damn good, but it was a lot like Mario 64 was to me. Everyone else loves it more than I do. I'm not going to throw Mario under than bus though, because I was there at the time, and it was earth-shattering. I will throw Halo under that bus. I was there for that too and it was just a weak space-marine shooter which we had more than enough of. The multiplayer was good too, but Perfect Dark had done it just as good a few years before. To this day, I cared more for Joana and that floating laptop than I ever have for Master Chief and his digital eye-candy Cortana.
 

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Almost any game solely based around violence that has particularly positive reviews I'll consider overrated. While I can enjoy these types of games, if they don't have any substance beyond violence and a thin plot I find them incredibly shallow. I consider any game that's gotten higher than an 8.5 based around violence and nothing else to be overrated. My first choice would have to be the recent Call of Duty games. The entire genre of fighting games is a runner up though.
 

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Psychonauts

Yeah, I said it
You know, I love that game, but even I have to say you're on to something there. It's a good game, but gameplay wise it's not amazing.

However I have to go with Final Fantasy VII. It was nowhere near a perfect game.
 

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My vote goes to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Love the game, hate the fans.

The fans (especially russians, for some reason) place this game on a pedestal of such perfection that no other castlevania game could ever dream to achieve. If you mention anything that you didn't like about the game - you are guaranteed to get told that that's what the made the game great.

Should you mention the bad english dub - "yeah, it's kinda bad, but it gives a certain charm to the game". Cue the fans outcry when the dub changed for the Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Hell, some people were defending the dub, saying that the voices really fit the characters and there was nothing wrong with how actors did their lines.

Should you mention that the music might not be as good as they think - "No, it has the best soundtrack of all time. OF. ALL. TIME".

Should you mention that other metroidvanias did things better and might be better games overall - "yeah, they're good, but nowhere near the symphony level".

Should you mention that once you get stuck (and you will get stuck when playing it for the first time) then going through the entire castle over and over and over again looking for something to progress further get boring - "no, the atmosphere is so damn good, it makes up for it. Also, i loved every second of backtracking".

Should you mention that the inverted castle is, basically, the exact same one, but harder to navigate, because now you need to transform into bat/mist or use that awkward super jump constantly - "no, it was an ingenious move, it made the game twice as long and you should feel bad for even mentioning it". Also, you might have been a bit tired of a regular castle by this point (see the backtracking statement) - now you get to explore it again. Fun? "Sure".

Items/abilities that can break the game and remove any difficulty ("well then don't use them, man". Right, when the game keeps giving me new ones on a regular basis), those annoying repetitive sounds (ghost death scream, water surface splashing, explosions everywhere), Alucard flying back in a big arc after every hit (especially fun when you're stunlocked by that in a place with a low ceiling) - minor complaints, sure, but fans act like they don't even exist.

etc.

It's trying to convince a brick wall. Nothing you say or do will make them change their opinion. Once again, i like the game a lot, but there was definitely room for improvement and polishing that later games did.

I guess i'm just tired of arguing with castlevania fans. Somewhat butthurt, maybe.

P.S. Kudos to TrevHead for mentioning the Touhou series. It also has a terrible fanbase that tends to overrate the games. As a shmup fan, i can relate to that.
 

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Oh look, it's that kind of thread again.

You know, ranting pointlessly about things other people like for barely any discussion value is hardly better than people endlessly praising and gushing about games that may not be so good in a subjective opinion.
 

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Ocarina of Time. Mostly because its been voted as the best game ever by various groups and I don't think any game has ever been that good.
 

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Z of the Na said:
bastardofmelbourne said:
Psychonauts

Yeah, I said it
Indeed you did. Any particular reason why?

I'm curious, is all.
Nothing specific. It really just never resonated with me. I didn't find the platforming much fun and the plot was charming and funny, but not enough to make me want to finish the game.

I wouldn't have even brought it up if it weren't for the fact that a lot of people think it's the greatest game in the world.
 

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I would have to say the team ico games. Don't get me wrong, they are not the worst games I have played. I just think that for all of the praise that is heaped upon them, both games leave a lot to be desired.

Ico is one giant escort quest. Go do something to advance, run back every so often to fend of shadow things before they whisk the girl away, run back to accomplish more things, repeat over and over. I felt like the game actively wanted to piss me off. I really dislike escort quests so I guess that makes sense.

Shadow of the Colossus is visually and thematically interesting, but there is only so much of the "move, hold on for dear life, move some more" gameplay that I can take. Even when other games use the same mechanic (Castlevania: LoD, God of War, etc...) it is still annoying, but at least those games have something else to do. I wanted to enjoy SotC, I really did, but it just wasn't enjoyable.

I won't decry others for enjoying either of them, but they are overrated in my opinion.
 

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The-Traveling-Bard said:
Holy crap Skyrim is insanely overrated, and it hasn't aged
I agree with it being overrated, however aged well? ...Are you a time traveler? Because gaming hasn't changed at all in the last few years.

z3tzilla said:
My vote goes to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.
Should you mention the bad english dub - "yeah, it's kinda bad, but it gives a certain charm to the game". Cue the fans outcry when the dub changed for the Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Hell, some people were defending the dub, saying that the voices really fit the characters and there was nothing wrong with how actors did their lines.

Should you mention that the music might not be as good as they think - "No, it has the best soundtrack of all time. OF. ALL. TIME".

Should you mention that other metroidvanias did things better and might be better games overall - "yeah, they're good, but nowhere near the symphony level".

Should you mention that once you get stuck (and you will get stuck when playing it for the first time) then going through the entire castle over and over and over again looking for something to progress further get boring - "no, the atmosphere is so damn good, it makes up for it. Also, i loved every second of backtracking".

Should you mention that the inverted castle is, basically, the exact same one, but harder to navigate, because now you need to transform into bat/mist or use that awkward super jump constantly - "no, it was an ingenious move, it made the game twice as long and you should feel bad for even mentioning it". Also, you might have been a bit tired of a regular castle by this point (see the backtracking statement) - now you get to explore it again. Fun? "Sure".

Items/abilities that can break the game and remove any difficulty ("well then don't use them, man". Right, when the game keeps giving me new ones on a regular basis), those annoying repetitive sounds (ghost death scream, water surface splashing, explosions everywhere), Alucard flying back in a big arc after every hit (especially fun when you're stunlocked by that in a place with a low ceiling) - minor complaints, sure, but fans act like they don't even exist.

etc.

It's trying to convince a brick wall. Nothing you say or do will make them change their opinion. Once again, i like the game a lot, but there was definitely room for improvement and polishing that later games did.
Looks like someone's never heard of wabi-sabi. The one game in any given series that resonates the strongest with fans will still not be an objectively perfect game. However, the fans will love the flaws and love it for it's flaws. This is actually a good thing, because while it's impossible to make a perfect game, it is possible to make a game so great people will love it regardless. This is also something that cannot be done on purpose; it all happens to come together just right. I am one of those people who thinks SotN would be worse off if it lacked those qualities you mentioned, but I won't argue with you about it. It clearly wasn't your cup of tea, but if it didn't have those qualities it wouldn't have accumulated the fan base it did. You will notice the other metroidvanias, while better technical achievements, didn't quite resonate to the extent SotN did, therefor don't have as large a fanbase.
 

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I think I'm just going to vote for Any current latest blockbuster that has been hyped to the point of obnoxiousness.

Basically, anything that's heralded as the fucking second coming, isn't.
 

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Tanis said:
FINAL-FANTASY-SEVEN/7/VII
O lawd...is dat overrated.

This.

Second place goes to LoL.
I get that a lot of people play the game, and that the tournaments offer huge cash prizes to the winners, but that isn't saying much when you game is free to play with micro-transactions, and the prize pool is split 5 ways for the winning team AND for the losing teams.
 

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It is quite odd what likeness the content of these threads have to "recommend me a great game".
Mr. K has hit it right on the head here. The problem with "overrated" threads is... the definition of "overrated" seems to be "games I didn't like that everyone else seemed to. With that definition, someone could make the case that Portal or Shadows of the Colossus is "overrated" if they didn't have fun playing them. (I don't know anyone who would make that claim, but some people just don't like good games)

And I don't see where that comes from. I don't PLAY games I don't like. I certainly don't BUY games I don't like. I don't like MMOs of any kind but I'm not about to call WoW "overrated." If I ever did play it, I could see myself thinking "I don't know what all the fuss is, this sucks." But that doesn't mean it's "overrated," it just means I don't like MMOs.

I recently watched a youtube rant by some moron called "top ten most overrated games" his name was Jon Tron or something like that. It was the crybaby whining of some dumb kid and it was just a list of 10 or so of the most well thought of games in gaming history. And this child whining "it doesn't look good NOW" and "ppl just haz teh nostalgia glasses... hur."

I play videogames for enjoyment. If nostalgia makes a game more enjoyable for me... what the fuck is wrong with that? That did it, from now on I just see any accusation of ?overrated? or enjoyment thru "nostalgia glasses" as an endorsement of a game. Because the accuser is just some dumb kid trolling something he doesn't understand with a weak, unsupportable, lame complaint. "Game X is bad because people only enjoy it because of nostalgia glasses." Really? Because it's enjoyable... it sucks? How does that make any sense at all?
 

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Kyrian007 said:
Mr.K. said:
It is quite odd what likeness the content of these threads have to "recommend me a great game".
And I don't see where that comes from. I don't PLAY games I don't like. I certainly don't BUY games I don't like. I don't like MMOs of any kind but I'm not about to call WoW "overrated." If I ever did play it, I could see myself thinking "I don't know what all the fuss is, this sucks." But that doesn't mean it's "overrated," it just means I don't like MMOs.
The problem with that is you don't always know what a game is going to be like when you play it and the reason people play some games is because they heard a friend say it is a great game or read about how good it is. It's easy to say don't play games you don't like but it's not really possible if you don't play it first. I didn't really like Brink but how was I supposed to know that without playing it? It looked promising and was a multiplayer shooter which is what I like playing.
 

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SSJBlastoise said:
Kyrian007 said:
Mr.K. said:
It is quite odd what likeness the content of these threads have to "recommend me a great game".
And I don't see where that comes from. I don't PLAY games I don't like. I certainly don't BUY games I don't like. I don't like MMOs of any kind but I'm not about to call WoW "overrated." If I ever did play it, I could see myself thinking "I don't know what all the fuss is, this sucks." But that doesn't mean it's "overrated," it just means I don't like MMOs.
The problem with that is you don't always know what a game is going to be like when you play it and the reason people play some games is because they heard a friend say it is a great game or read about how good it is. It's easy to say don't play games you don't like but it's not really possible if you don't play it first. I didn't really like Brink but how was I supposed to know that without playing it? It looked promising and was a multiplayer shooter which is what I like playing.
True enough I suppose, but you can play games before you buy them. That's what demos are for. That's what Steam "free weekends" are for. That's what Redbox is for. Heck, that's what friends recommending something to me and me coming over and trying it out is for. I guess I can add more to that. I've bought games without trying them out, but in every single instance I knew enough about them (via referral or just knowing what I like) to be very sure I was going to like the game.

I do own games I don't like. And all have the same story, people gave them to me as gifts and I have not re-gifted them yet.
 

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Oh, here we go...

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Half-Life games. I don't think they're bad games, they're just not for me. Perhaps it's because I'm a console gamer and I played the console versions, but it just bored me. I'm sure it's better on PC, but I'm not a PC gamer, I don't have a very powerful PC, and I don't have the money or the time to spend hundreds of dollars on PC specs and stuff just to play a game. I don't know, maybe I'm misunderstanding something about PC gaming.

But seriously, I think any game labeled as a big-budget AAA game is or will inevitably be labeled overrated, regardless of actual quality or entertainment value. They're just easier targets for that stuff.