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Nomad

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mjhhiv said:
If I remember correctly, Darwin's IQ was only figured at around 120. That either proves IQ tests are dumb, or that people lie on the Internet. Or both.
IQ is not the end-all measurement of success. It simply measures a characteristic known as G, or General Aptitude. Having a high IQ does not guarantee success, and nor does having a low IQ prevent it. Having a number for your IQ only gives you a general idea of how good your starting conditions are.

Edit: Also, interestingly, studies have shown that the people who are most statistically likely to succeed are those who have IQs of around 124 on the Wechsler-scale, meaning not quite genius, but still very intelligent. They explain this by saying people who end up in the "middle ground" are intelligent enough to come up with great things, but are still focused enough to execute them. When your IQ rises above that threshold, you might come up with a lot of good stuff, but you lack the focus and drive to actually develop the idea or go through with it.
 

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Nomadic said:
Personally, I am a member of Mensa Sweden and have an IQ of 131 Wechsler/133 Stanford/149 Cattell, which means I'm part of the top 2%... Which also makes me one of the dumbest people in Mensa, since I only barely made the cut-off. Since I know this statement will be met by doubt, I present to you a picture of my membership card. If that's not enough, I guess I could take a picture of the test result as well.
Proof? What? You aren't supposed to have that here! This is the Internet!
 

Twilight_guy

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I got tested a a kid by a neurologist and got a 128 or there abouts. I'm not sure where to direct you for a reliable test but MENSA might have something, or Barnes and Noble. I'm not sure that you should be putting so much stock into this though, its not as if knowing your IQ will affect and change your life in a anyway.
 

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Nomadic said:
mjhhiv said:
If I remember correctly, Darwin's IQ was only figured at around 120. That either proves IQ tests are dumb, or that people lie on the Internet. Or both.
IQ is not the end-all measurement of success. It simply measures a characteristic known as G, or General Aptitude. Having a high IQ does not guarantee success, and nor does having a low IQ prevent it. Having a number for your IQ only gives you a general idea of how good your starting conditions are.
Which is what I meant by "IQ tests are dumb", though you put it far more eloquently :)
 

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Nomadic said:
Hey, I'm just saying what I got. And I actually think it was an official Menza test. I never cared to take the real thing, since I don't care too much about it, only I can define my own intelligence. I don't need the approval of a test. I took it then, and I was advised there by a number of people.
 

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crudus said:
xmetatr0nx said:
IQ, much like BMI, is almost irrelavent with most people. It doesnt take into account basic things like common sense.
That and we have a terrible definition of intelligence as it is so what makes people think they can measure it.

TheNumber1Zero said:
what is a good number to use for when I lie and say i'm smart?
remember: the IQ test is out of 100 so anyone who says they got above 100 are lying.
No it isn't.
 

rasmusernst

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Well you could try the good old Mensa guys:

http://www.mensa.org/contact.php?action=show

They should be able to provide you with a list of certified IQ tests.
 

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crazyhaircut94 said:
Hey, I'm just saying what I got. And I actually think it was an official Menza test. I never cared to take the real thing, since I don't care too much about it, only I can define my own intelligence. I don't need the approval of a test. I took it then, and I was advised there by a number of people.
Mensa does not test people under the age of 18, due to the previously mentioned therapy-deal. If you did take the test with a psychologist, please outline the scenario for us (how much did it cost, why did you do it, what was the test comprised of, e.t.c.). It's nothing personal against you or anything, it's just that the whole internet-iq-test-deal bothers me.

Godavari said:
IQ doesn't measure intelligence - it measures ability to learn.
And the only reliable IQ test is pretty expensive to take. All the oline ones are BS.
You're half-right. It doesn't really mention learning ability, but pattern recognition. It measures your ability to reason.

There are, however, multiple reliable IQ tests. None of them are online, though, I'll give you that. But it doesn't have to be expensive. The national departments of Mensa usually take a very modest fee, barely covering their own cost of administration, for testing you. I myself only had to pay about ?30 to be tested by Mensa Sweden.
 

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Nomadic said:
*yet another snip*
Didn't have a psychologist beside me, did it out of sheer curiosity. But I'll be sure to make one by the age of 18 to see what I got. Also, Mensa Sweden? Are you Swedish? Me too! :D
 

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DestroytheTyrant said:
Does Mensa do anything beside sit on their ass and tell people how smart they are ?
Yes, although exactly what Mensa does depends on the national departments. Mensa international as a body simply strives to uphold its three main purposes in various ways; " to identify and foster human intelligence for the benefit of humanity, to encourage research in the nature, characteristics and uses of intelligence, and to promote stimulating intellectual and social opportunities for its members. ". This can mean anything from funding research to handing out pamphlets.

The national departments of Mensa are more specialized, but the specialization naturally depends on which country you're talking about. I know the american department of Mensa have their hands in a whole bunch of buckets, I'm sure you can read about it on their website.

As for the only department of Mensa where I have any real insight, and therefore the only department about which I can tell you... Mensa Sweden focuses primarily on running (in cooperation with other departments and institutions) something called the Gifted Children Programme, which is an educational movement aimed at identifying intelligent children at an early stage, so they can get the stimulation and attention they require to develop their talents. Through GCP, Mensa Sweden takes an active hand in the educational system of Sweden, and funds study groups and meetings for the public in order to discover said children.
 

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crazyhaircut94 said:
But I'll be sure to make one by the age of 18 to see what I got. Also, Mensa Sweden? Are you Swedish? Me too! :D
Be sure that you do! And hey, theoretically Mensa Sweden should have about 180 000 members (2% of Sweden's population). We have about 2500 members right now, so maybe you're one of the missing 177 500? If you have any questions about Mensa or IQ in general, stop by at Mensa Sweden's forum [http://www.mensa.se/forum/] and ask away!

Sorry for acting like a walking billboard, but I feel a little compelled to try to market Mensa in a positive way every time this topic springs up, considering all the negative attention the organization gets.

Edit: And I'm also sorry for the doublepost, I thought I was editing the one I had already written... Well, that only goes to show you that a high IQ doesn't make you infallible.
 

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Lexodus said:
crudus said:
remember: the IQ test is out of 100 so anyone who says they got above 100 are lying.
No it isn't.
*headdesk* don't you people get the fact that I was trying to be an ass? You don't need to correct me. I thought it would have been obvious by making a good, intelligent criticism of the IQ test that I know that what a good score is and isn't.
 

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mongolloid said:
Joshimodo said:
The only real official IQ test is one from Mensa. Other high IQ societies are also usable.

Both my aunt and one of my uncles are members of Mensa, and I have a high IQ also, though not of their level.
maybe because your aunts and uncles make the tests, they probably know the answers too.
No, they don't. Mensa make the tests. Mensa members are just people smart enough (I.E High enough IQ to enter the high IQ society) to be accepted into their ranks.
 

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Joshimodo said:
mongolloid said:
Joshimodo said:
The only real official IQ test is one from Mensa. Other high IQ societies are also usable.

Both my aunt and one of my uncles are members of Mensa, and I have a high IQ also, though not of their level.
maybe because your aunts and uncles make the tests, they probably know the answers too.
No, they don't. Mensa make the tests. Mensa members are just people smart enough (I.E High enough IQ to enter the high IQ society) to be accepted into their ranks.
thats funny, cuz "mensa" basically means stupid in spanish