IQ is not the end-all measurement of success. It simply measures a characteristic known as G, or General Aptitude. Having a high IQ does not guarantee success, and nor does having a low IQ prevent it. Having a number for your IQ only gives you a general idea of how good your starting conditions are.mjhhiv said:If I remember correctly, Darwin's IQ was only figured at around 120. That either proves IQ tests are dumb, or that people lie on the Internet. Or both.
Proof? What? You aren't supposed to have that here! This is the Internet!Nomadic said:Personally, I am a member of Mensa Sweden and have an IQ of 131 Wechsler/133 Stanford/149 Cattell, which means I'm part of the top 2%... Which also makes me one of the dumbest people in Mensa, since I only barely made the cut-off. Since I know this statement will be met by doubt, I present to you a picture of my membership card. If that's not enough, I guess I could take a picture of the test result as well.
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Which is what I meant by "IQ tests are dumb", though you put it far more eloquentlyNomadic said:IQ is not the end-all measurement of success. It simply measures a characteristic known as G, or General Aptitude. Having a high IQ does not guarantee success, and nor does having a low IQ prevent it. Having a number for your IQ only gives you a general idea of how good your starting conditions are.mjhhiv said:If I remember correctly, Darwin's IQ was only figured at around 120. That either proves IQ tests are dumb, or that people lie on the Internet. Or both.
Hey, I'm just saying what I got. And I actually think it was an official Menza test. I never cared to take the real thing, since I don't care too much about it, only I can define my own intelligence. I don't need the approval of a test. I took it then, and I was advised there by a number of people.Nomadic said:*snip*
No it isn't.crudus said:That and we have a terrible definition of intelligence as it is so what makes people think they can measure it.xmetatr0nx said:IQ, much like BMI, is almost irrelavent with most people. It doesnt take into account basic things like common sense.
remember: the IQ test is out of 100 so anyone who says they got above 100 are lying.TheNumber1Zero said:what is a good number to use for when I lie and say i'm smart?
Mensa does not test people under the age of 18, due to the previously mentioned therapy-deal. If you did take the test with a psychologist, please outline the scenario for us (how much did it cost, why did you do it, what was the test comprised of, e.t.c.). It's nothing personal against you or anything, it's just that the whole internet-iq-test-deal bothers me.crazyhaircut94 said:Hey, I'm just saying what I got. And I actually think it was an official Menza test. I never cared to take the real thing, since I don't care too much about it, only I can define my own intelligence. I don't need the approval of a test. I took it then, and I was advised there by a number of people.
You're half-right. It doesn't really mention learning ability, but pattern recognition. It measures your ability to reason.Godavari said:IQ doesn't measure intelligence - it measures ability to learn.
And the only reliable IQ test is pretty expensive to take. All the oline ones are BS.
Didn't have a psychologist beside me, did it out of sheer curiosity. But I'll be sure to make one by the age of 18 to see what I got. Also, Mensa Sweden? Are you Swedish? Me too!Nomadic said:*yet another snip*
Yes, although exactly what Mensa does depends on the national departments. Mensa international as a body simply strives to uphold its three main purposes in various ways; " to identify and foster human intelligence for the benefit of humanity, to encourage research in the nature, characteristics and uses of intelligence, and to promote stimulating intellectual and social opportunities for its members. ". This can mean anything from funding research to handing out pamphlets.DestroytheTyrant said:Does Mensa do anything beside sit on their ass and tell people how smart they are ?
Be sure that you do! And hey, theoretically Mensa Sweden should have about 180 000 members (2% of Sweden's population). We have about 2500 members right now, so maybe you're one of the missing 177 500? If you have any questions about Mensa or IQ in general, stop by at Mensa Sweden's forum [http://www.mensa.se/forum/] and ask away!crazyhaircut94 said:But I'll be sure to make one by the age of 18 to see what I got. Also, Mensa Sweden? Are you Swedish? Me too!![]()
*headdesk* don't you people get the fact that I was trying to be an ass? You don't need to correct me. I thought it would have been obvious by making a good, intelligent criticism of the IQ test that I know that what a good score is and isn't.Lexodus said:No it isn't.crudus said:remember: the IQ test is out of 100 so anyone who says they got above 100 are lying.
No, they don't. Mensa make the tests. Mensa members are just people smart enough (I.E High enough IQ to enter the high IQ society) to be accepted into their ranks.mongolloid said:maybe because your aunts and uncles make the tests, they probably know the answers too.Joshimodo said:The only real official IQ test is one from Mensa. Other high IQ societies are also usable.
Both my aunt and one of my uncles are members of Mensa, and I have a high IQ also, though not of their level.
thats funny, cuz "mensa" basically means stupid in spanishJoshimodo said:No, they don't. Mensa make the tests. Mensa members are just people smart enough (I.E High enough IQ to enter the high IQ society) to be accepted into their ranks.mongolloid said:maybe because your aunts and uncles make the tests, they probably know the answers too.Joshimodo said:The only real official IQ test is one from Mensa. Other high IQ societies are also usable.
Both my aunt and one of my uncles are members of Mensa, and I have a high IQ also, though not of their level.