Internet Explodes Over Origin's Invasion of Privacy
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Can you absolutely confirm this? I don't know how these things work. I have Origin installed, but most of the time it's not on; does it have to be on in order for EA to gain access to my system, or does the mere presence of this program constitute a suitable backdoor?JediMB said:
well technically it's not invasion because it's consentual. now that I think about it, Origin is like prostitution. you put up with people you don't particularly like groping your private things, but you put up with it anyway for something you want/need badly.Catchy Slogan said:
nice recovery XDEnkidu88 said:
OT: well since i wasn't gonna use Origen to begin with, this really mean little, just means, if EA makes anything worthy of note, I'll get the consul version
Trespass doesn't involve retail.TimeLord said:
Only if you're charged.
Wrong.
As I said earlier, you have no right to waive your own rights (which the EULA states you have done) and you must be fully aware of what you've agreed to for it to be legally binding (Hence the Miranda warning). There's also the problem that it implies you're legally bound by looking at the documentation, which is totally bulldrek.
For instance, here's a line lying in wait in some EA EULAs. EA MAY RETIRE ONLINE SERVICES AFTER 30 DAYS NOTICE POSTED ON www.ea.com/2/service-updates.
Now that means that if they've posted something (Even if that part of the site is down), they may then delete the entire server with no recompense. For Any Reason. At Any Time. Rendering your purchase null.
What other item do you have that can be rendered null in thirty days due to someone posting something on the internet?
Even BBC iPlayer tells you when your recordings of Doctor Who expires. EA expect you to go to them to find out.
I can't "confirm" anything. My common sense is just telling me that the Origin software itself is completely harmless right now, and it's only the ToS/EULA that is dangerous and needs to be changed to actually reflect what the software does.Sonicron said:
Okay, that helps a bit.JediMB said:
Still, i don't wanna get bombared with weird inapropriate offers from ea cause they scanned my internet history.
On a side-note, This got me thinking: will that TOS give them your legal consent to scan your computer for passwords and share them with their bussiness partners?
While i doubt that they would do it, I find it concerning if installin gorigin gives them the legal right to.
That has nothing to do with it. They can do it because it's not illegal. Yes it's immoral, and contains amazing amounts of douchbaggery from EAs part, but they can. Does not a ToS and TaC agreement state, quite clearly, at the end, "I have read and agree to the Terms and Conditions" then you require to tick a box and a continue button to accept it. They both are and aren't trying to tick you. If they decide to shut down the servers, if you agreed to it, then you have no comeback because you agreed to it. Otherwise those people who kept playing Halo 2 when the servers were shut down could have sued someone.The_root_of_all_evil said:
a) Oh dear god no. Not for an FPS.The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
b) Probably this, which is a shame.
c) The banhammer shall be upon you soon my son.
And this is why I will never ever install Origins. And why I trust Steam about as far as I could throw one of their servers.
Physical games purchased in an independent (non Gamestop) store and played on a console with PSN turned off - that's the only way to be sure. Like nuking the site from orbit.
Physical games purchased in an independent (non Gamestop) store and played on a console with PSN turned off - that's the only way to be sure. Like nuking the site from orbit.