Iran Publishes Anti-Israel Videogames

[Biscotti187]

actually the other countries don't want a nuclear Iran really anymore than Israel, remember there are divisions within the predominantly Muslim states (major example Iran is predominantly Shi'a and the countries west of Iran are mostly Sunni) and the status quo is better than Iran having the freedom to operate backuped with a nuclear threat. As for Israel the fact that Iran could threaten to nuke Israel should it retaliate against terrorist groups like Hezbollah would box the Israeli strategic situation in an intolerable corner. An airstrike or some sort of sabotage was really inevitable from the beginning

 

[DeadlyYellow]

The Jokar!? Someone call the Iranian Batman!

Bah, this will likely pave the way for more political shovelware.

 

[The Amazing Tea Alligator]

Now THAT was a smart and witty joke.

something tells me that you don't mean that...

No I did mean it. When I'm being sarcastic I usually post sarcasm brackets around the statement. For example:

Nice play Jack Thompson. You are so on the ball.

See?

Ah. See you had put 'that' as caps, making me overpronounce it, and read it like:
"Now [sarcasm] that [/sarcasm] was a 'smart' and 'witty' joke.
We should have actual sacarsm tags.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

Devil Den 2

so that means there's a Devil Den 1? Oo

I feel rather uncomfortable when political parties start using videogames as a means of propaganda. games cost a lot to produce, and i don't think the people paying to make those games have that much money to spend on propaganda. i would assume a lot of their money would be tied up in armies and equipment.

are you assuming this would be a AAA game ?
this is Iran we are talking about here.
they are good at reverse engineering stuff, but not at developing original concepts.

i'm guessing it would probably either be a crappy Indy-esk game
or something using the source engine.

i never assume anything. since it makes... and so on.

i don't think it'd be indy-esk. indy games are usually very original and you say they are not good at developing original concepts (i do not know if they are or aren't).
since it's an armed conflict, i could imagine it being some sort of shooter, with gritty brown colours.

but thats just it
how is it going to be a shooter, if the whole point is to rip on Israel
you aren't going to play as the IDF soldiers, and playing as one of the people who attacked the soldiers ruins the whole "the IDF just massacred people for no reason" angle they are trying to promote.

how are they going to make a shooter, where you aren't suppose to FIGHT anyone.

 

[ecoho]

Ok this is just funny guys i mean WOW.....

I would like to point this out to anyone who hates Israel that even if you hate them you gotta respect them. Look what happend the last time they went to war. What was it 5 countries that attacked them and lost in 7 days? not only did Israel win that little war they TOOK LAND! Now will this game make them mad? maybe but im pretty sure if they decide to kick Irans ass (and if it comes to it they will) it will be for entirly different reasons.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

but thats just it
how is it going to be a shooter, if the whole point is to rip on Israel
you aren't going to play as the IDF soldiers, and playing as one of the people who attacked the soldiers ruins the whole "the IDF just massacred people for no reason" angle they are trying to promote.

how are they going to make a shooter, where you aren't suppose to FIGHT anyone.

maybe you start at said convoy, see everyone slaughtered except yourself, then you set out on a path to avenge your former friends. during which you'll see many innocent people being shot by the bad guys, giving you green light to kill the bad guys.

except that the whole idea is that they are saying this is based on ACTUAL events.
non of the IDF soldiers who boarded that ship died (several we're injured, and a couple were taken hostage for a short amount of time, but none of them we're killed.) and the only "activists" who died were the ones who attacked the soldier and were shot for it.

you can't claim its based on an actual event, and then completely change the story

Ok this is just funny guys i mean WOW.....

I would like to point this out to anyone who hates Israel that even if you hate them you gotta respect them. Look what happend the last time they went to war. What was it 5 countries that attacked them and lost in 7 days? not only did Israel win that little war they TOOK LAND! Now will this game make them mad? maybe but im pretty sure if they decide to kick Irans ass (and if it comes to it they will) it will be for entirly different reasons.

that is wrong on several different levels
1)the war that was against 5 armies was in 1948 (the first war, not the last)
2)the war that lasted SIX days was against 3 armies.
3)the game isn't intended to piss Israel off, but rather to serve as anti-semetic propoganda.
4)If there is a war between Israel and Iran (and its a big if) its much more Complex then "Israel kicking Iran's ass", since both countries are over 1000 km from each other, and neither has the ability to invade the other.
Both sides have balistic missiles that can hit the other, and the Israeli air force can reach Iran, but since neither one of those options can definitively END a war, its more like a long prolonged war where both sides get hammered.

 

[Dommyboy]

Anti-Israeli bastards, I hope they die in a fire

Pro-Israeli bastards, I hope they die in a fire.

not gonna happen pal

I know, they control enough of the world as it is.

 

[cainx10a]

Anti-Israeli bastards, I hope they die in a fire

Funny how they share the same sentiments about Anti-Iranians. My point is, they are not even remotely trying to demonize Israelis, but the actions of the IDF, and that's probably to a certain extent.

And there's not information about what these games will be about, are you going to be one of the Turkish activist on the flotilla as the commandos rappel down the boat and mercilessly execute you and your buddies? Or is the player going to be some sort of spectator in the whole ordeal?

And for the second game, well, it's not the US doesn't have a certain "sniper" game to take down Iranian troops. Couldn't remember the name of it.

Dude, forget everything we've said in that other thread.

Are you a muslim? I just don't understand why you're so intent on porporting that Muslims are such beaten, misunderstood puppies. I have considered myself to be an atheist for a very long time (To be honest, I never had any religious education), but I grew up in a Muslim community. So my arguments are based on that experience. So people who bash Muslims are also bashing people who are very dear to me.

I've seen the film of those Jewish commandoes. They were attacked, immediately, with weapons. They didn't open fire right away and theres no evidence to suggest they had any intention of hurting these criminals (as they were going against the blockades wishes (where the other boats aid had been taken and distributed))). The 'example' I gave was mainly what a propaganda game might be about :s

Do you seriously believe that the racist Iranian government will bother showing any differences between IDF and Jew. Hell your arguments pretty much trickery, because all Israelies serve in the IDF. I don't want to get over an argument over Israel but again, my post was mainly around the propaganda Iran would used. But I must admit, I didn't think about the relation between the IDF and Israelis in general.

What is the Iranian government doing when they're not shouting racism, mysogyny and bigotry from the rooftops? As far as I see it, Iran is a 'modern' muslim country. They have access to quality education up to universities as well as relatively modern tech. Yet, people only remember Iran as a "racist, mysogynist and bigoted" country, and would love to send yet another middle-eastern country to the "dark-age" society they hate so much. Sure, their President might be a whacko, but like I mentioned in the previous post, they ain't out of their damn mind to start a war.

They sure as hell don't seem to care about improving the lives of muslim people. In fact it seems an underlying part of Musilm culture that they have to have massive amounts of wealth and then create unnecessary poverty so they can fuel hatred and conflict. Is that so? Are you talking about Osama going from playboy to terrorist? Or some corrupt dictator somewhere who instill the hate-america rhetoric while he spend the aid given to his country on leisure goods while leaving his countrymen to starve? Are you talking about Saudi princes who tend to throw their money at everything and nothing like celebrities? Are you talking about this guy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrukh_Khan]? Because I don't know about you, most wealthy muslims I know are either entrepreneurs (who got lucky with the trade they got into) and professionals (doctors and all the kinky stuff), so their amassed fortune is somehow related to a ploy to fuel hatred and conflict? Or the fruits of hard work, like anyone else?

I'm going to assume you were talking about Osama, who uses his western gained education, daddy's wealth and exploit impressionable minds about fairy tales to commit atrocities. I will be honest, I might defend the "freedom-fighters" who are fighting an invasion or an occupation. But I do not condone or even remotely understand shit like this [http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/09/03/pakistan.violence/index.html]. and Pakistan despite having 'ties' to extremists and fighting the taliban is vilified despite taking those losses. My point? Like Iraq, they are paying a heavy price for this 'war on terror', yet, their culture, religion is vilified and blamed for all the ills that's happening to them. So yeah, to answer your first question, if I think Muslims are "beaten, misunderstood puppies" ... they are the bogeyman which clearly was created thanks to propaganda of various kind (hey look, abdul killed his daughter or beat his wife) and after having a few countries invaded here and there, and with pakistan being the 'mess' it is, and how Iran is 'next' on the list, as well as how Muslims here in North America might or might not be prejudiced against, then I'll let you decide whether they are beaten little puppies or just a bunch of whiney people ... ,

I hope the last part clears up why I spent most of my time arguing about this than whining about arma 2 AI in the gaming forums.

 

[HK_01]

Well America has been publishing anti-Russian games for years - I don't see the problem

This.

Also, these games are probably pretty horrible and nobody will want to play them.

 

[Samcanuck]

Wait...an anti-Israeli...how could anybody dislike a peoples that makes refugees out of Palestinians (refugees of there own land), kills civilians with gun ships and attacks peaceful protesters? Crazy talk.

I....I just cant believe it.

Damnit, I really don't want to add fuel to the fire, but...

How can anyone dislike a people that strap bombs to children, constantly bombard Israel with rockets, uses extreme propaganda for hate, and wish the death of an entire nation?

See? Generalizations work both ways.

(speaking in general now)

Look, I have family that lives in Israel, thankfully not where the violence is, but I still worry about them every day. Everyone I know in Israel desperately want the fighting to stop, everyone wants peace, etc... Not just the Israeli's, I'm sure many people in the Middle East to. It's just the radicals that make the majority look bad.

But unfortunately it's not that simple. I'm not going to discuss whether Israel has any "right" to exist (though I'd point to the USA and it's dealings with the Natives) or whether it does. All I know is that this propaganda piece is insulting to pretty much everyone and this only fuels more hate for everyone.

Alright, you may have family that lives in Israel. They may live comfortably with only the fear of violence. And lets say we dont care that these same homes were the homes of the Palistinians for generations prior to the current one. My question still is, do you not see something inherantly wrong with striping a peoples from there land; making them into a nation of refugee's? Do you not furthur understand that out of what was given to Israel, not even a portion of it has ever been given to the Palistienians to structure there identity (say Gaza and Westbank)? I've experianced a few cultures in my day, and what gives any other nation the right to destroy a culture? It seems to me that Israel has forgotten that as a whole.

And quite honestly, in Western Canada (and from what I see; all of North America) the media backs the Israeli side almost completely. I don't care if this 'fuels the fire of this debate'...I find this "one sided view" crap completely wrong for democracies to do, and for good damn reason. Besides, we could go into detail of non-explosive missile rounds and the idea of strapping your best weapon to your chest for your peoples, families, culture. We could argue groundtroops (and quite a few civilians) versus Naval Gun ships....American sold Naval gun ships. We could look at the many incidents of even human rights violations on both sides, which only fuels my anger about an one sided media. Either way you cut the mustered, I see blood on both sides and wrong intent by Israel. No kidding the nations around Isreal attacked it in the past and groups still do...there's good damn justification and reason for attacking Israel...or what, just let this happen to your neighbooring nation or your own peoples?


I personally find the side your seemingly backing offensive sir, would you mind explaining? For me, sheltering yourself behind family members and there experiances a cowardly ploy to give your opinion more merit. I disagree fully that your nationality should give your opinion any more merit than mine. Infact in contrast, you are biased due to lineage.