Iran Publishes Anti-Israel Videogames

[Hgame]

Everybody is forgetting the part the Us played in creating this situation, who were the ones supplying Israel with weapons, money, and forcing through the UN the decision to take away the homes of people who had lived there for hundreds of years and giving them to people with no right to take them. The US did this because hey had a sizable Jewish community who the politicians believed were completely pro Israel. This is not the case, 90% (rough estimate) of Jews are completely reasonable. The problem is the 10% who are Zionists.

People say that the Palestinians can move elsewhere, well why not just place the Israelis somewhere else in the first place, or at least give the Palestinians some control over their country. I believe, as do most people, that the best solution is a single state shared by Palestinians and Israelis. However, power must also be shared and the Israelis are reluctant to do so, instead preferring to make excessive demands and oppress Palestinians.

As for the game, does anyone know a download link so we can see what its like in reality?

 

[bladeofdarkness]

Everybody is forgetting the part the Us played in creating this situation, who were the ones supplying Israel with weapons, money, and forcing through the UN the decision to take away the homes of people who had lived there for hundreds of years and giving them to people with no right to take them. The US did this because hey had a sizable Jewish community who the politicians believed were completely pro Israel. This is not the case, 90% (rough estimate) of Jews are completely reasonable. The problem is the 10% who are Zionists.

People say that the Palestinians can move elsewhere, well why not just place the Israelis somewhere else in the first place, or at least give the Palestinians some control over their country. I believe, as do most people, that the best solution is a single state shared by Palestinians and Israelis. However, power must also be shared and the Israelis are reluctant to do so, instead preferring to make excessive demands and oppress Palestinians.

As for the game, does anyone know a download link so we can see what its like in reality?

wrong on several different levels
1)the ones who approve the creation was the League of nations in 1922, and it was mostly the UK who pushed the idea (Balfur declaration).
the reason why they approve of the idea was because the area know as Palestine was one of several areas in the middle east that ended up with no ownership after the ottoman empire caved in.
the entire middle east was getting a remake, with many new countries being formed, so a chance to create a Jewish one was perfect.

2)the US was not ever remotely the Superpower it is today in 1922.
and the UN didn't exist until AFTER world war 2, so how could the US push for a UN resolution 20 years before there even WAS a UN ?

3)the US didn't supply Israel weapons like it does today until after 1967, and before that Most Israeli weapons came from either france or the UK

4)how would the Jewish population in the US (who didn't have anywhere near the level of influence in 1922 as is attributed to them today) be "Pro-Israel" over 2 decades before Israel was even formed ?

5)the Majority of Jews in general support Israel, even if some of them don't agree with certain policies of its government, in the same way most americans who support america even if they don't agree with some US policies
those who don't are a vocal minority.
you confuse Zionism (support of the right of the Jewish people for a nation state like all other people) with specific policies like the settlements that even most ISRAELIs don't really agree with.

6)a one state solution is not only undesirable for either side - its also completely baseless in its very suggestion.
the Palestinians live in Areas that are not, we're never, and never will be part of Israel, so why would Israel give them Citizenship ?
the people of the west bank used to be Jordanian between 1948 and 1967, and no steps were ever taken to give them automomus rule or independent statehood.
and the people of Gaza were just left to rot by Egypt between those same years.
why would Israel give them citizenship simply because it took over that territory in a war (and didn't annex it.)
its like saying that having the US occupy Iraq means Iraqis should be given American citizenship.

and why would the Israelis even consider sharing the nice shiny country they spent the past 62 years building with the people who spent those same 62 years trying to destroy it ?

 

[cainx10a]

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Anti-Israeli bastards, I hope they die in a fire

Funny how they share the same sentiments about Anti-Iranians. My point is, they are not even remotely trying to demonize Israelis, but the actions of the IDF, and that's probably to a certain extent.

And there's not information about what these games will be about, are you going to be one of the Turkish activist on the flotilla as the commandos rappel down the boat and mercilessly execute you and your buddies? Or is the player going to be some sort of spectator in the whole ordeal?

And for the second game, well, it's not the US doesn't have a certain "sniper" game to take down Iranian troops. Couldn't remember the name of it.

Dude, forget everything we've said in that other thread.

Are you a muslim? I just don't understand why you're so intent on porporting that Muslims are such beaten, misunderstood puppies. I have considered myself to be an atheist for a very long time (To be honest, I never had any religious education), but I grew up in a Muslim community. So my arguments are based on that experience. So people who bash Muslims are also bashing people who are very dear to me.

I've seen the film of those Jewish commandoes. They were attacked, immediately, with weapons. They didn't open fire right away and theres no evidence to suggest they had any intention of hurting these criminals (as they were going against the blockades wishes (where the other boats aid had been taken and distributed))). The 'example' I gave was mainly what a propaganda game might be about :s

Do you seriously believe that the racist Iranian government will bother showing any differences between IDF and Jew. Hell your arguments pretty much trickery, because all Israelies serve in the IDF. I don't want to get over an argument over Israel but again, my post was mainly around the propaganda Iran would used. But I must admit, I didn't think about the relation between the IDF and Israelis in general.

What is the Iranian government doing when they're not shouting racism, mysogyny and bigotry from the rooftops? As far as I see it, Iran is a 'modern' muslim country. They have access to quality education up to universities as well as relatively modern tech. Yet, people only remember Iran as a "racist, mysogynist and bigoted" country, and would love to send yet another middle-eastern country to the "dark-age" society they hate so much. Sure, their President might be a whacko, but like I mentioned in the previous post, they ain't out of their damn mind to start a war.

They sure as hell don't seem to care about improving the lives of muslim people. In fact it seems an underlying part of Musilm culture that they have to have massive amounts of wealth and then create unnecessary poverty so they can fuel hatred and conflict. Is that so? Are you talking about Osama going from playboy to terrorist? Or some corrupt dictator somewhere who instill the hate-america rhetoric while he spend the aid given to his country on leisure goods while leaving his countrymen to starve? Are you talking about Saudi princes who tend to throw their money at everything and nothing like celebrities? Are you talking about this guy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrukh_Khan]? Because I don't know about you, most wealthy muslims I know are either entrepreneurs (who got lucky with the trade they got into) and professionals (doctors and all the kinky stuff), so their amassed fortune is somehow related to a ploy to fuel hatred and conflict? Or the fruits of hard work, like anyone else?

I'm going to assume you were talking about Osama, who uses his western gained education, daddy's wealth and exploit impressionable minds about fairy tales to commit atrocities. I will be honest, I might defend the "freedom-fighters" who are fighting an invasion or an occupation. But I do not condone or even remotely understand shit like this [http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/09/03/pakistan.violence/index.html]. and Pakistan despite having 'ties' to extremists and fighting the taliban is vilified despite taking those losses. My point? Like Iraq, they are paying a heavy price for this 'war on terror', yet, their culture, religion is vilified and blamed for all the ills that's happening to them. So yeah, to answer your first question, if I think Muslims are "beaten, misunderstood puppies" ... they are the bogeyman which clearly was created thanks to propaganda of various kind (hey look, abdul killed his daughter or beat his wife) and after having a few countries invaded here and there, and with pakistan being the 'mess' it is, and how Iran is 'next' on the list, as well as how Muslims here in North America might or might not be prejudiced against, then I'll let you decide whether they are beaten little puppies or just a bunch of whiney people ... ,

I hope the last part clears up why I spent most of my time arguing about this than whining about arma 2 AI in the gaming forums.

I wasn't referring to Doctors, lawyers, proffessionals etc. I was referring to, as you said, people like Osama Bin Laden. Oil barons who take money from the West and East and then use it to provide weaponry against the hand that feeds them. The super rich who do nothing to make their own countries better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriana

I think you might enjoy this movie then. Other than Osama, don't personally know who else of those princes/oil baron are funding terrorism. Either way, I do agree they have the means to do a lot more for their people (Saudis in this case).

 

[Jumplion]

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I will respond to this via PM as I do not want to clutter up the thread even more with pointless arguing. If you want to continue this conversation, please do so through PM.

 

[Kyuubi Fanatic]

Games like these would just die over here, but Iran is a different story.

Why can't these assholes try for peace? Do they WANT perpetual war?

 

[bladeofdarkness]

Games like these would just die over here, but Iran is a different story.

Why can't these assholes try for peace? Do they WANT perpetual war?

they want to become the dominant power in the middle east, and since most people in the middle east hate Israel, ripping on it makes Iran popular.

its a common tactic in the middle east i'm afraid.
Nasser did it
Saddam Did it
and now persident I'm-a-dinner-jacket is doing it.

 

[Carlston]

"The young generation must find out about the Zionist regime,"

I'm sure the young generation of Iran already hates Israel more than enough without propaganda games.

This kind of reminds me of when the Klu Klux Clan made anti-Mexican games.

Maybe Israel will answer this by making anti-Iranian cupcakes.

Not sure it reminds me, as the KKK games were sad attempted to get attention in a country where lawsuits, courts and the like beat things like that down quickly. Last I checked Iran doesn't have such things and encourages this behavior. So where one offended for a while the other fans hatred of a people already thinking like this to begin with.

I'd say different...