is 0 even or odd?

4li3n

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funguy2121 said:
I remember when we nerds were supposed to be considered intelligent. What happened to that? When did we start using wikipedia as the gold standard? I changed wikipedia 2 months ago, knowing it was bullshit - wikipedia is not a gold standard.
Then use the gold standard to disprove it. That's actually how sourcing something works...
 

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I'm a Mathematics teacher. The 'number' two fits the definition of an even number as it is in-fact a multiple of 2:

2x0 = 2.

Its parity is even.

Although I don't often recommend Wikipedia as a reference, reading this MAY help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero

Many people are also claiming that Zero is not an integer:
"Integer - A member of the set of positive whole numbers 1, 2, 3,... , negative whole numbers -1, -2, -3,... , and zero {0}."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer

Although these facts are debatable, they are called definitions for a reason. These definitions and rules CAN change if you prove them wrong. Just as new formulas are discovered, old formulas can be refined. The problem is that the concept of 0 is simply too hard to work with as it fits both descriptions of being 'even' and 'neither' as well as being an integer and NOT being an integer.
 

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Jewrean said:
I'm a Mathematics teacher. The 'number' two fits the definition of an even number as it is in-fact a multiple of 2:

2x0 = 2.

Its parity is even.

Although I don't often recommend Wikipedia as a reference, reading this MAY help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero

Many people are also claiming that Zero is not an integer:
"Integer - A member of the set of positive whole numbers 1, 2, 3,... , negative whole numbers -1, -2, -3,... , and zero {0}."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer

Well, considering that Wikipedia no longer allows original research, it's actually a reliable source of information.

OT: Why are we still on this topic? I've read through the entire thread and the answer was given about 3 dozen times over.
 

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0 is nothing, and everything
0 is the darkness, and the light.
0 is the beginning and the end. when things are born into this world. they are 0, and as thy leave it, they become 0 again.

0 does not fear the reaper

and 0 will fu** your sh** up if you divide by it.

also. its even
 
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Hagi said:
Glademaster said:
I don't see why people always use this proof when proving 0.99... = 1. do people not like sequences and series?
Because it works? Unless you wish to argue that f(x)=9x isn't a bijective function or that g(x) =10x-x does not equal f(x)?
Well that is a pretty poor reason. I am asking what makes the algebraic proof so much more superior to the Geometric series proof. At least with the geometric series no one can say the 9a is not 9. As because 0.999 recurring is 1 it makes the 8.9999... = 9. You can't even try to argue with the infinite Geometric series version. Not that you have a leg to stand on either way.
 

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Amondren said:
keideki said:
Neither.... zero is not a number, but a lack there of.
This is the answer if you ask any math teacher/professor and I agree with it.
zero is a number, so this is untrue. however, zero is also neither even nor uneven.
 
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funguy2121 said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
MaxPowers666 said:
AnOriginalConcept said:
It's even.

A number is even if it is divisible by 2 with no remainder.
I really hope you dont honestly believe that.
...Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero] agrees with me, sir.
I remember when we nerds were supposed to be considered intelligent. What happened to that? When did we start using wikipedia as the gold standard? I changed wikipedia 2 months ago, knowing it was bullshit - wikipedia is not a gold standard.
Every website bar 1 on the first page of googling is 0 even or odd comes up with even and in this case the Wiki article is right and so is my maths book. Also so is observation.
 

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It's even. It follows the formula 2a where a is an integer. It does not follow the formula 2a+1 where a is an integer.
 

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Well, the pattern is even-odd-even-odd-even-odd. 1 is odd, 2 is even, -1 is odd, -2 is even, so I guess 0 is even.
 
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Fagotto said:
riverand said:
Zantos said:
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Neither... Zero is not an integer.

The concept of even and odd only applies to integers therefore 2 is even, 3 is odd, 3.5 is neither and 0 is neither also.
Actually zero is an element in the set of integers (the Z set).

Strictly speaking it's even, since when you do set mappings you use 2*n for evens and 2n+(or -)1 for odds where n is an integer. However the principle of odd and even is only really used in natural number mappings, and 0 is not a natural number. So essentially from an analytical maths perspective it doesn't really matter but for the sake of completeness it's even.
Preach on, Zantos! I'm a high school math teacher practically hyperventilating over here with the responses. You set my mind at ease, I will be able to sleep soundly tonight knowing that your response is out there.
:)
I'm just a college student majoring in computer engineering and this is making me want to strangle something XP

I wonder about how far the people in this thread have gone in math...
What is more shocking the lack of use of a search bar. Although on a forum not using a search bar is to be expected but if you just google the question you get the answer.
 

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riverand said:
Zantos said:
Custard_Angel said:
Neither... Zero is not an integer.

The concept of even and odd only applies to integers therefore 2 is even, 3 is odd, 3.5 is neither and 0 is neither also.
Actually zero is an element in the set of integers (the Z set).

Strictly speaking it's even, since when you do set mappings you use 2*n for evens and 2n+(or -)1 for odds where n is an integer. However the principle of odd and even is only really used in natural number mappings, and 0 is not a natural number. So essentially from an analytical maths perspective it doesn't really matter but for the sake of completeness it's even.
Preach on, Zantos! I'm a high school math teacher practically hyperventilating over here with the responses. You set my mind at ease, I will be able to sleep soundly tonight knowing that your response is out there.
:)
I'm glad I could help. However would it spoil it if I said this is the ONLY time I've ever used set theory outside of an exam?

crudus said:
Zantos said:
0 is not a natural number.
Actually that just depends on who you ask. Zero is "sometimes" considered natural. "Natural Number" is actually kind of an ambiguous term to begin with
Fair enough. Our maths department is one of the "If you try to index zero in the natural numbers you WILL be beaten to death with a proof by induction" ones. I don't know how it's taught elsewhere, but I did not want to cross the man with the huge wad of proofs.
 

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Heathrow said:
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Um, yeah, you can. You just get zero. It is also by definition, even. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parity_of_zero
Yes, okay. But how do you tell two chunks of nothing divided into equal groups apart from one big bunch of nothing with a set of scales in it? For that matter, what if you have three equal groups of nothing?

Mathematicians are lazy and the only reason 0 is technically even is because it fits the oversimplified definition of parity.
If you don't have the mathematical knowledge to understand that 0x=0 for all real values of x, then you don't have enough knowledge to form an opinion on what is lazy or not.

But I'll explain it to you.

Let's say you have three boxes, and each contains zero cookies. If you dump the 'contents' of all three boxes together, you will end up with no cookies. Cookies will not magically appear out of thin air. That's why it works. This proves simultaneously that three times zero = zero, and as well, zero divided by three equals zero because if you take those zero cookies and equally distribute back into their original packages, each package still gets zero cookies. This remains true for every number of boxes.

And the reason zero is even is because zero is divisible by 2.

Someone needs to go back to grade 3 math class.
 

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I'm in math class right now, and when I saw the title of this thread, I immediately asked my math teacher:

"Hey, miss, I have a question."
"I have an answer."
"Is zero even or odd?"
"Oh... ummm... It's negative!"
 

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Why are there over 300 responses to this simple question? Here's the answer from an engineering PhD (me)

Zero is even. Even is definable by the ability to evenly divide by two. Zero is an integer. Zero is a number.

What some of you smarties are trying to argue is that zero is an abstract concept of nothing, however, mathematically, as a separator between -1 and 1, it exists as a concrete construct. Making the argument that zero is a non-entity and doesn't exist would be that same as arguing that black is not a color. Black is a color, though the absence of color produces black. It's basic logic kiddies, sort of like "all vikings have blond hair, but not all people with blond hair are vikings.

I don't even know why I am wasting my time writing this. Zero is a number. Zero is even. Sheesh.
 

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flaming_ninja said:
0.9*recurring is not equal to 1 because no matter how infinitesimally small the difference is, the difference exists.

And 0 is a number and a digit and an integer (ask any programmer) and it IS even.
1/3 = .33(recurring). Multiply both sides by 3.

3/3=.99(recurring)

So unless you care to argue that three thirds is less than 1, .9 recurring is equal to 1.
 

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A well-accepted "definition" of even is:

For an integer x, if x mod 2 = 0, then x is even.

mod 2 refers to the divisibility of x by 2. It is a fancy way of taking the "remainder" from elementary division.

Dividing 0 by 2, we can clearly see that 0 mod 2 is, in fact, 0. Therefore, we conclude that 0 is even. If you're not convinced that 0 is not an integer: To the Google!