Is E3 Worth It?
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With they way Crytek has been shamefully ignoring the fanbase who have been crying for this game it'll only be announced about 2 days before the end of the world.Irridium said:
Crytek has it out for us all! :O
I've seen other things he's done and didn't enjoy them. I don't take kindly to a contributor to the site insulting potential viewers because they don't like his content. Professionals are supposed to act professional. You like his stuff, thats fine. Not everyone else has to.Sentox6 said:
To James:Extra Consideration said:
Don't feel bad. It is a little sad when one of the most visible and most talked-about events is essentially just one big free-for-all commercial. A clutter of chaotic bluffing, it's like Texas Hold'Em mixed with Super Smash Bros.
To Jim:
I think what you love about E3 is exactly what I hate. All of the balls-out announcements (read: hype) read with an overly excited tone of voice is designed specifically to get the audience excited. About what? Who the hell knows? You just want them excited while they're looking at your logo. Because excited people don't ask questions, unless that question is "When can I pre-order?"
To Yahtzee:
The only benefit I can see to a touch screen in the controller is that it allows you to change what buttons appear on your controller, without needing a new controller for each game. But something like that is probably pretty alienating to the audience, as they'll have to learn a brand new layout for every single game. Alternately, most games will use the same layout, making the gimmick meaningless.
The other possibility is putting HUD elements on the controller. To my mind, this entirely defeats the purpose of a HUD--it wasn't designed for its aesthetic appeal, it was designed so you could access relevant information without taking your eyes off the task at hand.
I've never really seen that much of E3, but I never really cared for it. This has shed a light on what E3 is for me.
Also, Why can't Jim talk like this in his Jimquisition? Here he shows he has good points, and he is doing it without saying "fuck" every 3 words (not offended, just annoyed). His point comes across better when he is just being calm and swears less. Ah well, still nice discussion
Also, Why can't Jim talk like this in his Jimquisition? Here he shows he has good points, and he is doing it without saying "fuck" every 3 words (not offended, just annoyed). His point comes across better when he is just being calm and swears less. Ah well, still nice discussion
The jimquisition... what a showEri said:
The jimquisition... here we go
I know your wishin... that we'd go awayyyyy
But the jimquisitions here... and its here... to... stayyyyyy
Not disagreeing wiith your point at all, just need an excuse to post this. Mel brooks is the man.
I really love E3, there's just something about seeing a spectacular trailer for a game that you just were not expecting or watching a conferance live and seeing Gabe Newal walk out onto the Sony stage and anounce portal. Moments like that are just exciting and sure it makes me a gullable consummer to see gameplay demos and expect greatness but its just plain exciting for me. I can't speak about going to shows as I have never been but E3 is by far my favourite as it is where literaly all the big anouncements are made.
As for the "is it worth it?" question, im suprised to be agreeing with Jim Sterling here(sorry not a fan), that it is worth it maybe not for the industry but for the FANS of the industry. It very much IS a recharge in excitement about the medium we care about. I remember watching E3, when Halo 3 was announced, from home and i fealt GREAT to be a supporter of the medium. I didnt watch for the cool new announcements, i would end up finding out all about them anyway. I watched E3 because it was a time to sit down and go "I AM SO PROUD TO BE A GAMER!" and that makes it all worth it.
I'd say everyone made some very good points here.
The one bit I'd like to comment on is about the swag --- it's there to bid for getting your attention in the first place. Marketers (mostly) aren't actually trying to buy a good review with swag; they just want the reviewer to notice that their game is there and review it. Having a swanky $200 lighter in your pocket is a great reminder that "oh crap I should prolly review that game".
Why not go with something cheaper? Because "cheaper" is generally equated with "more forgettable". You're less likely to keep, let alone remember, the thousandth squishyball or lanyard or similar tchotchke you got from a game company.
That said, if it were me, I would've gone with a $50 lighter. -
The one bit I'd like to comment on is about the swag --- it's there to bid for getting your attention in the first place. Marketers (mostly) aren't actually trying to buy a good review with swag; they just want the reviewer to notice that their game is there and review it. Having a swanky $200 lighter in your pocket is a great reminder that "oh crap I should prolly review that game".
Why not go with something cheaper? Because "cheaper" is generally equated with "more forgettable". You're less likely to keep, let alone remember, the thousandth squishyball or lanyard or similar tchotchke you got from a game company.
That said, if it were me, I would've gone with a $50 lighter. -
Competition is healthy. I love the trashtalk. Nintendo's nostalgia gets me every time, I'm not ashamed of that one bit. I love that it's a huge party with boothbabes and lights and props and COMPETITION! I love that it's the place where everyone brings out their guns. I love that it's a fun time for everyone to see what's coming. I love the anticipation for each press conference, and the bevy of screens, impressions and trailers that come with it for us to speculate over. I love taking extended breaks during work so I can see that one. last. update on a liveblog for a conference; the one that'll maybe talk about Zelda or a new console or something I'm waiting for.
I love E3 and the idea of it. Jim is dead on. I only wish it were also open to the public but for that we'd need a venue twice as big, I wager.
I love E3 and the idea of it. Jim is dead on. I only wish it were also open to the public but for that we'd need a venue twice as big, I wager.
Welcome to the clubJames Portnow said:
I feel that way quite often these days...I'm glad to see Jim actually making some reasonable points, his videos keep off-putting me, but evidently he can make a point without making everyone forget it within 20 seconds. If he continues in his videos then he'll have gained a fan.
... What? This is no different than how Yahtzee usually is, he's made it ABUNDANTLY clear that he despises hype and finds many games to be bland.milo2215 said:
That's terrifying... aren't consumers the people you'd want to be in touch with, rather than the people trying to get them to buy games in the first place?Baldr said:
I remember I used to think E3 was the shiznit(I'm the only one who uses that term, I swear) but now it really is like hype and shallow gameplay has become much more prevalent. Maybe I sound like a cynical twat, but these are my honest feelings.
My goodness, Jim, you're one of the few people who know about Edge of Twilight. It's such a shame it doesn't seem it'll get made.
I like E3. I'm cynical and jades beyond my years but I enjoy E3 simply because they have the most exciting news of the year. I don't get carried away though, very few things get me truly excited. But I have to say the WiiU, the barrage of Zelda news (despite nothing on Skyward Sword), Forza 4 and Skyrim have got me excited, but not to the point where I won't get any sleep tonight.
And I was surprised to see that name drop of Edge Of Twilight at the end! That's the first time I've seen any piece of gaming journalism mention it in a very long time. I was pretty excited about that game too. It looked so different and refreshing that everything else out around the time, and they went and canceled it. I was really disappointed. I would love to see them bring that back from the brink.
And I was surprised to see that name drop of Edge Of Twilight at the end! That's the first time I've seen any piece of gaming journalism mention it in a very long time. I was pretty excited about that game too. It looked so different and refreshing that everything else out around the time, and they went and canceled it. I was really disappointed. I would love to see them bring that back from the brink.