Who cares.Schwenkdawg said:don't apathetic and uncaring mean the same thing?
Or he's still pissed off at someone stealing is apples.MaxTheReaper said:If god exists, he is either apathetic or uncaring.
You really think that's the worst thing he has done?Quantum Roberts said:and Chapper /threadChapper said:Have you even read the Old Testament?
Dude made a flood, tricked an old man to almost kill his son, banished people, got a fish to eat a dude. Yeah God is just made of love and fuzzy hugs
Uhm. What? He doesn't force you to do anything. You want to get into his heaven, work for it. Confession twice a year, an hour in church every week and the 10 commandments.Diablini said:A kind god would let people live their lives, not make them worship him and stop doing exciting things just so they don't go to hell.
December 21st 2012 actually EDIT:whoops somebody corrected you alreadykobold king said:well he lets people murder each other because the murderer will burn forever and any way it doesn't matter on december 22nd 2011...the end of the world!!!yay.
Free will.Valiance said:These threads should not exist.
To answer your question...
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Finally, someone noticed that God is a Buddhist. I mean, look at that theodicy thing. He wanted a lot of good and some small evil rather than little good and no evil. Everything is in balance.1ronJ4m said:Well... if that weird "Holy Trinity" thing is true, than after all Jesus = God. An Jesus was definitely kind. The stuff he teaches and believes in are good and true. So yeah, I'd say god is kind.
Or kind/neutral.
Well... the Bible was written by human beings (probably fanatic ones) so it isn't necessarily true.Abedeus said:Or he's still pissed off at someone stealing is apples.MaxTheReaper said:If god exists, he is either apathetic or uncaring.
You really think that's the worst thing he has done?Quantum Roberts said:and Chapper /threadChapper said:Have you even read the Old Testament?
Dude made a flood, tricked an old man to almost kill his son, banished people, got a fish to eat a dude. Yeah God is just made of love and fuzzy hugs
Egyptian plagues, attacking even innocent ones, then he forced people he "saved" to wander the desert for 40 years, turned a city into salt and he's still going to kill most of us and damn to Hell for eternity.
Uhm. What? He doesn't force you to do anything. You want to get into his heaven, work for it. Confession twice a year, an hour in church every week and the 10 commandments.Diablini said:A kind god would let people live their lives, not make them worship him and stop doing exciting things just so they don't go to hell.
I wouldn't count on doing the first two, but hey, as long as I don't kill anyone...
Seriously though, to get into heaven, according to new-age Christianity (you know, in Europe), you just have to be a good person. Help out someone, don't harm people and so on. If that's too hard, nobody will convice you it's worth doing.
And you were answering... to which part of my post!?1ronJ4m said:Well... the Bible was written by human beings (probably fanatic ones) so it isn't necessarily true.Abedeus said:Or he's still pissed off at someone stealing is apples.MaxTheReaper said:If god exists, he is either apathetic or uncaring.
You really think that's the worst thing he has done?Quantum Roberts said:and Chapper /threadChapper said:Have you even read the Old Testament?
Dude made a flood, tricked an old man to almost kill his son, banished people, got a fish to eat a dude. Yeah God is just made of love and fuzzy hugs
Egyptian plagues, attacking even innocent ones, then he forced people he "saved" to wander the desert for 40 years, turned a city into salt and he's still going to kill most of us and damn to Hell for eternity.
Uhm. What? He doesn't force you to do anything. You want to get into his heaven, work for it. Confession twice a year, an hour in church every week and the 10 commandments.Diablini said:A kind god would let people live their lives, not make them worship him and stop doing exciting things just so they don't go to hell.
I wouldn't count on doing the first two, but hey, as long as I don't kill anyone...
Seriously though, to get into heaven, according to new-age Christianity (you know, in Europe), you just have to be a good person. Help out someone, don't harm people and so on. If that's too hard, nobody will convice you it's worth doing.
"You really think that's the worst thing he has done?Abedeus said:And you were answering... to which part of my post!?1ronJ4m said:Well... the Bible was written by human beings (probably fanatic ones) so it isn't necessarily true.Abedeus said:Or he's still pissed off at someone stealing is apples.MaxTheReaper said:If god exists, he is either apathetic or uncaring.
You really think that's the worst thing he has done?Quantum Roberts said:and Chapper /threadChapper said:Have you even read the Old Testament?
Dude made a flood, tricked an old man to almost kill his son, banished people, got a fish to eat a dude. Yeah God is just made of love and fuzzy hugs
Egyptian plagues, attacking even innocent ones, then he forced people he "saved" to wander the desert for 40 years, turned a city into salt and he's still going to kill most of us and damn to Hell for eternity.
Uhm. What? He doesn't force you to do anything. You want to get into his heaven, work for it. Confession twice a year, an hour in church every week and the 10 commandments.Diablini said:A kind god would let people live their lives, not make them worship him and stop doing exciting things just so they don't go to hell.
I wouldn't count on doing the first two, but hey, as long as I don't kill anyone...
Seriously though, to get into heaven, according to new-age Christianity (you know, in Europe), you just have to be a good person. Help out someone, don't harm people and so on. If that's too hard, nobody will convice you it's worth doing.
The Egyptian plagues were a justified punishment of the Egyptians and a crushing of their gods. Innocent ones? Pray tell who are these innocent ones, for I have not heard of such people on this Earth. And the 40 years was punishment for their continued disobedience and disbelief. When did he turn a city to salt? And every man, woman child on this Earth deserves Hell, for all sin and cannot enter the oresence of God on their own, and Hell is merely the fulfillment of the sinners desire to leave God. Could such a person enjoy heaven?1ronJ4m said:"You really think that's the worst thing he has done?
Egyptian plagues, attacking even innocent ones, then he forced people he "saved" to wander the desert for 40 years, turned a city into salt and he's still going to kill most of us and damn to Hell for eternity."
This. And sorry for confusion.
Damn right. Who the fuck would want anything to do with the kind of sadistic fuck of a god who would come up with something like hell?Zyxzy said:and Hell is merely the fulfillment of the sinners desire to leave God.