Is IGN Biased?

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NoCure

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Chibz said:
Personally I refuse to believe that a game should ever genuinely warrant a perfect score. Mostly because no game is inheritly perfect.
I was just going to say yes, but the above quote sums up my feelings to a T.
 

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Not really. They just seem afraid to have any original opinions, worrying that the greater masses won't understand the fact that ALL reviews are subjective.

I watch IGN mostly because they have HD fotage and interesting "exclusive" information on several games, not because I need their help to pick which games to buy.

For anyone who wants funny and honest reviews from two middle-age guys, full of vulgar language and hilarity, I suggest checking out NoobToob over at Youtube. They don't use a number-based system, rather just a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down.

Marik2 said:
Sorta off topic, but Id like to see Mass Effect 1 also on the PS3 so that I can play the first before I get the second game.
It's pretty cheap on Steam if you got a computer that can handle it. Unless of course the reason you want to play it is the transfering of your character.
 

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Not really. They just seem afraid to have any original opinions, worrying that the greater masses won't understand the fact that ALL reviews are subjective.
This is the problem with game criticism as a whole. The games press is so obsessed with being taken seriously that they try to present themselves as being soullessly objective, that they are totally untainted by anything resembling an opinion. This is great when you're delivering news, but there is no way you can review a game that isn't totally subjective. Well, there is, and that's what they do, they spend a couple thousand words describing the game's features and then giving it the same score as everybody else. Games will never grow as a form of entertainment until people actually start critiquing the games as they should be. There should never, ever be a consensus when it comes to opinions of a creative work.
 

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After Watching a Video Review of the ps3 version of Mass Effect 2 They gave it a 9.5 And one of the Cons were 'Late to PS3' Even through he talks about how this is one of the best versions with ALL the Dlc put into it. so we lost 0.5 because we were late.

Im not angry about it just seems a little unfair.
Biased against...what, exactly?
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Biased against...what, exactly?
I think he/she means "fan boys" without using the term... There's an idea I can get behind, I grant you. Don't like the term. Although the platform Mr. OP is suggesting they're fan boys of is left a little ambiguous. Looking back on it, that's probably what you meant, but anyway.

As Yahtzee said in the mailbag showdown; 'all reviews are personal opinions'. Though it does seem weird that they lost some points on it just because they needed extra development time on the PS3 or Microsoft paid them for semi exclusivity or ducks ate their entire collection of PS3 development tools or whatever.
 

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Marik2 said:
Sorta off topic, but Id like to see Mass Effect 1 also on the PS3 so that I can play the first before I get the second game.
Not going to happen - MS have exclusivity (of the consoles at least).

OT: Wow, a whole 0.5 from a meaningless score. And it was probably a joke anyway, I doubt they actually knocked marks off for that.

But no, they're not a particularly good site.
 

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04whim said:
As Yahtzee said in the mailbag showdown; 'all reviews are personal opinions'. Though it does seem weird that they lost some points on it just because they needed extra development time on the PS3
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
 

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Talal Provides said:
binvjoh said:
Not really. They just seem afraid to have any original opinions, worrying that the greater masses won't understand the fact that ALL reviews are subjective.
This is the problem with game criticism as a whole. The games press is so obsessed with being taken seriously that they try to present themselves as being soullessly objective, that they are totally untainted by anything resembling an opinion. This is great when you're delivering news, but there is no way you can review a game that isn't totally subjective. Well, there is, and that's what they do, they spend a couple thousand words describing the game's features and then giving it the same score as everybody else. Games will never grow as a form of entertainment until people actually start critiquing the games as they should be. There should never, ever be a consensus when it comes to opinions of a creative work.
I think the terminology could be the problem. What they're giving is an overview, not and actual reivew and then they attach an arbitrary score at the end of it.

For a review to actually mean something you need a closer connection to the reviewer themself, or at least confidence in that the person actually "knows his/her stuff".
 

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Talal Provides said:
04whim said:
As Yahtzee said in the mailbag showdown; 'all reviews are personal opinions'. Though it does seem weird that they lost some points on it just because they needed extra development time on the PS3
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
Exactly. And, while I only skimmed, I didn't see any mention of "we knocked this down because it's late." Everything I saw said that the game was excellent, awesome, go play it like nao.

It's a fantastically positive review, and one that seems appropriately on par with the 360 version - I'm not seeing any bias here in any direction.
 

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Talal Provides said:
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
If the scores were objective, they would surely be the same. As I said, reviews are subjective.

That's why they should be the same and why they aren't.
 

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04whim said:
Talal Provides said:
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
If the scores were objective, they would surely be the same. As I said, reviews are subjective.

That's why they should be the same and why they aren't.
Wait, what?

Either I'm slow, or you just contradicted yourself.
 

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binvjoh said:
04whim said:
Talal Provides said:
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
If the scores were objective, they would surely be the same. As I said, reviews are subjective.

That's why they should be the same and why they aren't.
Wait, what?

Either I'm slow, or you just contradicted yourself.
Well, I grant you I could use some more sleep, but I don't think I contradicted myself. I just had an opinion on how things should be which is different to the way they are.
 

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04whim said:
Talal Provides said:
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
If the scores were objective, they would surely be the same. As I said, reviews are subjective.

That's why they should be the same and why they aren't.
Why should they be the same?
 
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IGN are very biased by money. It keeps them going. Therefore they are going to make it part of their bias to get as much as they can.
 

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04whim said:
binvjoh said:
04whim said:
Talal Provides said:
Why would two different reviews done by two different people with about a year between when they were written have the exact same score?
If the scores were objective, they would surely be the same. As I said, reviews are subjective.

That's why they should be the same and why they aren't.
Wait, what?

Either I'm slow, or you just contradicted yourself.
Well, I grant you I could use some more sleep, but I don't think I contradicted myself. I just had an opinion on how things should be which is different to the way they are.
So what you meant was that reviews should be objective?

I have a bit of trouble understanding the wording at the end.
 

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honestly i never liked IGN that much they do favor the 360 more than the ps3 but alot of companies do, but IGN makes it point blank that they like the 360 more out of frat boyism
 

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I gave up on IGN when I saw a Killzone series V Halo series article on their site asking people to vote for the "best". Looking at it, even just the title EVERYONE can tell it will turn into fan-boys ranting at each other and only spark more idiotic arguments.

What made it worse?

The author of the article who wrote out the pro's and con's of both games so it could be debated... then added another bit saying how he supported Halo and how it was infinitely better, before the voting was even up.

It just put me right off going on that site or bothering to pay any heed to whatever they say about PS3 related games.