Yes? Sorry but with the OP statement in mind doesn't that apply to any other insect that you can killed aswell like a fly, moth etc or even an ant that we may step on being unaware of?
Is it ok to kill spiders?
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i find that in the large scheme of things, unless you're actively making a point of killing all spiders, you're probably not going to be able to kill enough to make yourself spider hitler
that being said, i think i spend too much time/effort trying to get spiders to get back out of sight when they don't have enough perspective to flee in the direction i intended
that being said, i think i spend too much time/effort trying to get spiders to get back out of sight when they don't have enough perspective to flee in the direction i intended
This honestly depends if you live in Australia or elsewhere.
If in Australia, take no chances man. I'm not sure how many potentially deadly spiders are in Australia, but I believe its a fair bit and some 'particularly' enjoy the domestic environment.
ELsewhere, the chances of having a giant spider in your home is pretty small. Most likely all you'll have are "good guy" jumping spiders and the occasional orb web building a lattice over your window. Those are fine imo.
If in Australia, take no chances man. I'm not sure how many potentially deadly spiders are in Australia, but I believe its a fair bit and some 'particularly' enjoy the domestic environment.
ELsewhere, the chances of having a giant spider in your home is pretty small. Most likely all you'll have are "good guy" jumping spiders and the occasional orb web building a lattice over your window. Those are fine imo.
Well, sure it's OKAY, but there's not really any reason to. I'd like to point out that we're about 1000 times their size. With the exception of the poisonous ones, they can't hurt us in the slightest.
I just put them outside if I catch them, or otherwise leave them alone. I used to play with them all the time when I was a kid, garden spiders are actually really friendly. That or really stupid.
I just put them outside if I catch them, or otherwise leave them alone. I used to play with them all the time when I was a kid, garden spiders are actually really friendly. That or really stupid.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no value in any life.
What little manufactured value there is comes from the possibility to create and the level of intelligence/possible intelligence a creature has.
I also don't believe in terms like "Ok" in the phrase "Is it ok to do X"
Every moral system is different. A lot of people will say yes it is ok, a lot will say it isn't. The point is, it isn't up to us/them. It's up to you. Only you can determine what you feel bad about.
If you think it's ok, then yes, it is absolutely ok. If you think it isn't ok, then it simply isn't ok.
Also, 6 pages of posts about this? Seriously people?
What little manufactured value there is comes from the possibility to create and the level of intelligence/possible intelligence a creature has.
I also don't believe in terms like "Ok" in the phrase "Is it ok to do X"
Every moral system is different. A lot of people will say yes it is ok, a lot will say it isn't. The point is, it isn't up to us/them. It's up to you. Only you can determine what you feel bad about.
If you think it's ok, then yes, it is absolutely ok. If you think it isn't ok, then it simply isn't ok.
Also, 6 pages of posts about this? Seriously people?
This line actually makes me think your entire series of posts were created for the purpose of making fun of the people defending the spiders.SimpleThunda said:
Personally, I try not to.
Partially because I become cripplingly terrified if they get too close, and partially because I don't believe they deserve to die.
I'd rather set them outside where they can be happy and freeand away from me than have to deal with squishy spider remains.
Partially because I become cripplingly terrified if they get too close, and partially because I don't believe they deserve to die.
I'd rather set them outside where they can be happy and free
First of all i would like to state that i live in location that does not have spiders with deadly poison. the poisonous spiders here will give you a rash (that more often than not need no medical attention) and are usually far smaller (there are ones as big as a palm of the hand, but no monsters from australia). so my opinion may be biased a bit this way.
I NEVER kill spiders. i either ignore them or put them outside. it depends on situation. if it is by a window ill let it stay since hes useful there.
Main reas: spiders catch flies (i dont mind flies, i actually had a few as a pet), mosquitos and other similar creatures. Due to extensive fishing, the fish population has gone down, which mean the natural order of fish eating mosquito eggs have got damaged. result? at least 15 times increase in mosquito population that is BLOODY ANNOYING. so any mosquito caught by a spider is a win situation. the more spiders the better.
and if your killing spiders your part of the problem.
I NEVER kill spiders. i either ignore them or put them outside. it depends on situation. if it is by a window ill let it stay since hes useful there.
Main reas: spiders catch flies (i dont mind flies, i actually had a few as a pet), mosquitos and other similar creatures. Due to extensive fishing, the fish population has gone down, which mean the natural order of fish eating mosquito eggs have got damaged. result? at least 15 times increase in mosquito population that is BLOODY ANNOYING. so any mosquito caught by a spider is a win situation. the more spiders the better.
and if your killing spiders your part of the problem.
few months ago i put a huntsman spider:
the size of my face outside. it took me about 40 minuets of getting a bowl and piece of paper over it and i was scared shitless but these guys are the puppy dogs of the spider kingdom. even if you pick them up with your hands 99.9% of the time they wont bite you and if they do it won't kill you so i don't see why i should be it's judge jury and executioner.
i also have a funnel web living in my car door mirror. i draw the line at the bastards entering my house and will kill them but when i see him start to peek outside the mirror i just quickly roll up the window, cry a bit in terror and keep on driving.
needless to say i'm the sort of person who doesn't like killing things.
i also have a funnel web living in my car door mirror. i draw the line at the bastards entering my house and will kill them but when i see him start to peek outside the mirror i just quickly roll up the window, cry a bit in terror and keep on driving.
needless to say i'm the sort of person who doesn't like killing things.
In that case this sounds like a moral conflict that can only be solved internally. For future reference however, spider bites are actually rarely lethal to humans, with even the more infamous spiders such as the black widow and brown recluse only being life threatening to people with specific, pre-existing conditions, the very young or the very elderly.Feedmeketamine said:
Also take in to account that to pretty much every spider ever, you are Cthulhu to them. Like, night literally, a spiders vision normally doesn't even allow it to see you in your entirety. The mere sight of you sitting upon your cyclopean porcelain throne was probably enough to drive that spider to the brink of madness (relative to spiders of course)
Aww, that huntsman is kind of adorable in that picture. It's all relaxed looking, that's the kind of spider you could have a beer with, heh.lechat said:few months ago i put a huntsman spider:
the size of my face outside. it took me about 40 minuets of getting a bowl and piece of paper over it and i was scared shitless but these guys are the puppy dogs of the spider kingdom. even if you pick them up with your hands 99.9% of the time they wont bite you and if they do it won't kill you so i don't see why i should be it's judge jury and executioner.
i also have a funnel web living in my car door mirror. i draw the line at the bastards entering my house and will kill them but when i see him start to peek outside the mirror i just quickly roll up the window, cry a bit in terror and keep on driving.
needless to say i'm the sort of person who doesn't like killing things.
As for funnel webs, those guys are complete bastards I hear. Aggressive, with a very painful, sometimes toxic bite. I'd try to get that one to clear out if I were you, if not outright annihilate that sucker.
Thats true, I think what im going to have to do is say theres 1 rule for spiders generally in the house, and then theres another for spiders when im taking a shit.
I try not to; depends how lazy I am that day.
Sometimes I'll see them run around my house and I'll be like "meh".
Other times I'll catch them and release them outside.
Few times I'll get annoyed and I'll kill them (I probably found those spiders in my bedroom).
And if they are outside, I leave them alone.
Sometimes I'll see them run around my house and I'll be like "meh".
Other times I'll catch them and release them outside.
Few times I'll get annoyed and I'll kill them (I probably found those spiders in my bedroom).
And if they are outside, I leave them alone.
If a spider comes into my house its open season. Even more so if its a poisonous spider. I put the dead spiders on toothpicks near the doors and windows as a keep out sign to other spiders. They should know better.
There are SO many bugs where I live that I try to let spiders off with a pass so they'll keep the rest of them in line. However, I draw the line when I see a spider in my bathroom. I don't do confined spaces with creatures who like the personification of death itself.
Oh god, I just got the scariest mental image of "spider hitler" ever. That would be pretty much the ultimate video game boss enemy.weirdguy said:
Anyhoo, I definitely realize how hypocritical I am about spiders. Basically none of the spiders in my area are capable of causing any harm. It's all about appearances when you really look at it. I mean, I'm not afraid of cats even though I've been painfully scratched and bitten by many cats. Your average cute little housecat is capable of about 1,000,000 times more pain and suffering than an average spider.
I try to ignore spiders if I see them in an out-of-the-way corner. I know they're misunderstood and even helpful for bug control, but if they intrude on my personal space they get squooshed.
There must be something wrong with me, since spiders have never really bothered me. Seriously, once I'm wrapping myself in a towel after a shower and a daddy longlegs climbs up between my breasts and onto my shoulder. I just watched it munch on the edge of a scab for what must have been a minute before it occurred to me most people would have freaked out. Okay, so those things aren't *technically* spiders but they look even weirder.
Oh! If you ever get the opportunity to drop a daddy longlegs from a considerable height, do it. They spread their legs and float down spinning. Too bad they're propably not sophisticated enough creatures to enjoy the ride...still, looks pretty funny.
Oh! If you ever get the opportunity to drop a daddy longlegs from a considerable height, do it. They spread their legs and float down spinning. Too bad they're propably not sophisticated enough creatures to enjoy the ride...still, looks pretty funny.
I cannot speak for other countries that have venomous spiders but in Britain killing spiders is a bad idea, they keep the numbers of other unpleasant insects down. Flies, bed bugs, silverfish and anything else unpleasant in the house won't stand a chance of getting a foothold if there are spiders around. By killing them you increase the risk of getting infested by something else.
British spiders don't bother me one bit either, most cannot even bite you because they don't have the fangs for it. If I lived in a country with dangerous ones I would be more careful, watched a video once of an Australian that recommended using a Dyson to get them out of the house. You can just suck them up into the dust bucket and then dump them safely.
British spiders don't bother me one bit either, most cannot even bite you because they don't have the fangs for it. If I lived in a country with dangerous ones I would be more careful, watched a video once of an Australian that recommended using a Dyson to get them out of the house. You can just suck them up into the dust bucket and then dump them safely.
When it comes to spiders and their right to live, I try to follow the instructions of this sign as well as I can.
I have absolutley no problem with people squashing spiders but I don't do it myself anymore. My Ex used to insist i squash any insect that came inside because she was paranoid that if I put it outside it would come back in. As someone who has a real problem being told what to do I have pretty much made sure to move them on un-squashed ever since, even when I would kind-rather crush them.