is my dad wrong in this situation?

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Tipsy Giant

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Tell your dad if he has to resort to name calling clearly he is the child and you are the man
 

Rumpsteak

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Right off the bat I can tell your dad is someone whose's opinion I wouldn't give a damn about. You are his child though so chances are ingrained in you to want his approval (aren't we all). You're right, he's wrong, buy an oven mitt.
 

Pr1de

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The man probably has some sort of fear of symbolic castration. That's his problem, shouldn't be yours as well.
 

Treblaine

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I wouldn't worry too much, although 400-Fahrenheit is a high temperature you don't have to be tough to safely reach into the oven, just smart.

The coils will radiate heat and conduct via convention but at a relatively slow rate. The foil may be as hot at 400-Fahrenheit but aluminium has low heat-capacity and so thin when the heat is conducted into the larger water laden mass of your skin it won't actually heat up your flesh enough to burn nor even scald it. I have done the same, it's hot for a moment then the foil suddenly is col enough to hold.

PS; to get back at your dad, every time he calls you a fudge-packer, ACT LIKE THAT, and shame him by acting camp and effeminate. When he congratulates you with being manly, act more manly. It's like Pavlov's dog, if he wants a butch tough son then he'll be conditioned not to use such terms.

PP: you should probably talk with your dad reasonably about what you both want:
-Exactly how tough and butch does he want you to be
-Exactly how does he thing he is going to achieve that calling him a "******"
-Exactly how tough do YOU want to be
-Exactly how do you feel you are going with the shit he's talking
 

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Old generations can be really shitheads. Just because they had a harder life they want to make it just as hard for you, but they can't understand that our world is different nowadays and that intelligence is much more important than being a brute in these times.

If he was joking, maybe you could answer joking to him. If he was serious then if he ever gets you hurt you should talk to the authorities. And when he is older maybe you could beat him up... or not. You can be nice in the future and show him that you're a much better person than him. What a jerk!
 

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bullet_sandw1ch said:
my father thinks that im a "pansy", a "fudge packer", a "******" and various other derogatory slang terms aimed at gay people, because i am not as strong or manly as he was when he was a boy. heres the problem: i was making lasagna, and a piece of tin foil fell into the hot depths of the oven. he then tells me to reach into the active, 400+ degree oven, past the hot coil thing that creates heat, and grab the foil. now, i would have done it, were it not for the fact that he insulted me when i told him of the issue, yet he would not do it either, and then proceeded to play solitaire on his phone. his only excuse is that he works, and i do not. i am 14, and have applied for many jobs, yet no one will accept me because im too young, they say. what should i tell him?
Well considering you're on a forum complaining about how much of a prick he is, rather than just, I dunno, MOVING ON, might mean he is right in the sense that you have to grow a thicker skin and toughen up a little, life will forever throw situations at you where you either just get it done with whatever tools you have near you, or wuss out and be seen as less of a man for it, you should probably start on that now, if you can't take charge of your environment enough to just get that foil outa the oven quick, you have little hope of taking charge over your life in any meaningful way, or at least this is how he may see it.

My advice? Grow some balls, toughen yourself up, pain is an illusion of the mind, any adversity can be overcome with enough determination and planning, and no matter what you WILL succeed, not may or might, cuz those words are for weak people, trying is below you, doing is where you're at... you can thank me later, cuz this is just from one guy who used to be a pansy ass weakling who was picked on incessantly for years, I learned to harden myself to it and life got a hellovalot easier, thing is it took me YEARS, and I'm still fucked to a certain extent and trying to recover, but if you start now you might make something of yourself.

Next time when he makes a comment like that to you, laugh it off, don't go crying to the internet, learn to laugh it off, because you will grow strong you will toughen up and you will be a man, and whatever he says about you, is just words, meaningless useless empty words, or take them as encouragement to try harder, because maybe in his tiny mind that is what he's trying to do, encourage you to man up.

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Zachary Amaranth said:
T_ConX said:
Tongs. Use Tongs. Tongs anyone?
That's not a manly solution. REAL men care nothing about burns and fire.
Apparently I am the most REAL man in this forum. When your on fire there is no caring about anything, only pure pain. Afterwords you might have a healthy respect for it... But than again that might not be manly. But I get your joke. haha.

Also, this father sounds abusive as hell.
 

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Mebulous said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
T_ConX said:
Tongs. Use Tongs. Tongs anyone?
That's not a manly solution. REAL men care nothing about burns and fire.
Apparently I am the most REAL man in this forum. When your on fire there is no caring about anything, only pure pain. Afterwords you might have a healthy respect for it... But than again that might not be manly. But I get your joke. haha.

Also, this father sounds abusive as hell.
Respect? HA! Respect is just a cop-out way of saying FEAR! Men don't have fear!
 

Auron225

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You pansy - what, too scared to get 3rd degree burns and sending yourself to hospital? Wuss. I mean, I wouldnt do it, but you're the wuss.

What I just said makes sense ^^
 

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Err shouldn't this be in the off topic section?

Either way your dad is an ass and it would of result in a raging argument if you had talk back to him but you're in the right.
 

Mebulous

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Mebulous said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
T_ConX said:
Tongs. Use Tongs. Tongs anyone?
That's not a manly solution. REAL men care nothing about burns and fire.
Apparently I am the most REAL man in this forum. When your on fire there is no caring about anything, only pure pain. Afterwords you might have a healthy respect for it... But than again that might not be manly. But I get your joke. haha.

Also, this father sounds abusive as hell.
Respect? HA! Respect is just a cop-out way of saying FEAR! Men don't have fear!
Yeah, suppose that is true. Real men don't need skin. Or respect, err, I mean fear. I guess this boys father just does not *fear* his son. And that is a shame.
 

Vankraken

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This father sounds like he has a lot of daddy issues of his own or some latent homosexuality that he can't come to terms with to treat his own kid like that.

Anyways don't put your hand into a hot oven and if its electric don't use tongs as you could electrocute yourself. (Don't put a fork in the toaster, same principle applies)

You need to confront your dad about this verbal abuse and explain that its not productive and is toxic to your relationship with him. If he is physically abusive i would recommend you call the authorities.

Also why is this in gaming?