Is the 9/11 Pokemon offensive?
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I'm kind of indifferent to the Pokemon thing, but I looked at the other things on that list and I gotta admit, it's kind of ridiculous.
The "Ground Zero" area depicted in the Cracked article has nothing to do with where Kyurem landed at all. Yes he was a comet that fell to earth and made a big crater.. that crater just happens to be the in the North East area (called Giant Chasm) where you find the Pokemon itself. Not Route 4 and the desert resort.
Cracked lists may be entertaining, but I wouldn't recommend taking anything from that site without a grain of salt.
Cracked lists may be entertaining, but I wouldn't recommend taking anything from that site without a grain of salt.
Ok, I've played Pokemon White, and this is just rediculous. FIRST, that pokemon is NOWHERE near Castelia City. It is found in Giant Chasm, the little green dot in the upper right corner of the map. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the city. SECOND, the area I guess they are calling "ground zero" is just a desert route. No mention is ever made in the game about something destroying it, from what I remember. These people are just grabbing random bits from all over the game and mashing them together to form this "conspiracy". I'm an American and this doesn't offend me.
My guess is these people jumped to conclusions without actually playing the game or someone has a chip on their shoulder against Pokemon lol. Also, to the guy who said America deserved 9/11, that's just cold. People had loved ones who died there, show some respect.
My guess is these people jumped to conclusions without actually playing the game or someone has a chip on their shoulder against Pokemon lol. Also, to the guy who said America deserved 9/11, that's just cold. People had loved ones who died there, show some respect.
Is the 9/11 Pokemon offensive?
To me? No. I would actually be happy if there was more exploration of the event.
I hate it when something bad happens and everyone gets over sensitive about it. Know what doesn't help get over trauma? Ignoring it so that if there is any hint of it you overact.
Yes there is a period of "too soon" but, I was so happy when I started to hear 9/11 jokes.
To me? No. I would actually be happy if there was more exploration of the event.
I hate it when something bad happens and everyone gets over sensitive about it. Know what doesn't help get over trauma? Ignoring it so that if there is any hint of it you overact.
Yes there is a period of "too soon" but, I was so happy when I started to hear 9/11 jokes.
Stop trying to start a flamewar, It happened 10 years ago. It was terrible yes, but get the fuck over it.
Having beaten the game, I can say this is total bullshit, that pokemon is NOWHERE near that city, that supposed "ground zero" is the games desert region well behind the city, oh and when i say nowhere near, i mean on the complete other corner of the map as far as possible, they even talk about (the people in game) the creature from the meteor attacking a town near where the meteor hit, and its a small rural town near where the pokemon is, once again, far as hell away from the city
I really dont find it offensive because I really didn't KNOW about it. There are 4hundred and so pokemon and dex these days and its only looking MASSIVELY into the game does this show up. I have the game, I know there was alot of american influence IN the game, but there was never anything about a pokemon smashing into a city being referenced as far as i am aware.
To be honest, it seems as though the artical's author is reading things faaaaaaaar too much. Would he rather have they not mentioned it AT ALL?
** on a side note, does this mean in the next game they will reference some sort of earthquake torn country the likes that has destroyed Japan?
To be honest, it seems as though the artical's author is reading things faaaaaaaar too much. Would he rather have they not mentioned it AT ALL?
** on a side note, does this mean in the next game they will reference some sort of earthquake torn country the likes that has destroyed Japan?
I wouldn't say that 9/11 wasn't a big deal. In fact it was a big deal.. It killed quite a bit of people. The fact that people are finding every excuse to be offended though is beyond the point of stupidity. I personally find it offensive that you say 9/11 is not a big deal, when I personally think it is, but I find it equally offensive to try and find every single thing that could possibly connect with the numbers 9 and 11 in the same structure. Should we get mad at a song artist because his song just so happens to be 9:11 long? No.mowinckel107 said:
This all the way this. Statistically 9/11 was a failure with only 90% of people who could have been killed actually dying so by the terrorist standards it was a failure. 3000 people a year is less than heart failures, death rates of any cancer patient and less than the number of people a year who get killed in car crashes.ShadowsofHope said:
Yet the American government uses is as a blanket statement to justify almost anything. Think about the security in airports after 9/11 because of terrorists, the killswitch in the US because it could be "cyber 9/11", the war you guys have been in for 8 years if memory serves me correctly, how much money, time and effort has been put into fighting an enemy who could literally be anyone at any time in any place. The utter insanity and paranoia created is the most shocking part, not the actual attack. You let the terrorist do what they planned to do, inflict terror
All stats from http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/18/usa.terrorism
It was 10 years ago, it was a failure, your country is worse off as a governments reaction and not the actual attack. I am not offended in the slightest
I think people are reading too much into this. Plus, I didn't really get why Cracked thought the map was offensive other than it appeared to vaguely connect to 9/11- what's so offensive about that?
So many people seem to be so offended by 9/11 and caught up in 'never forgetting' it that they're actually forgetting to move on in the areas where they should move on. Namely, rebuilding the WTC (exactly as it was, in my opinion) and not using it to infringe upon people's civil rights and start new waves of McCarthyism, you know, that would be nice.
So many people seem to be so offended by 9/11 and caught up in 'never forgetting' it that they're actually forgetting to move on in the areas where they should move on. Namely, rebuilding the WTC (exactly as it was, in my opinion) and not using it to infringe upon people's civil rights and start new waves of McCarthyism, you know, that would be nice.
read the stroy thinking it would atleast be worth a chuckle to look at over reactions then i noticed something.
isnt the height 9'10"? (at least according to the wiki>
isnt the height 9'10"? (at least according to the wiki>
Yep, all those human beings who died in the attacks sure did deserve it, didn't they? I mean, those heartless accountants and firefighters were *gasp* working to keep their families fed and happy. Those bastards!mowinckel107 said:
While we're on the subject, what about all those evil relatives and friends of those who died? Yep, they certainly deserved all the emotional and psychological suffering of losing a loved one, didn't they?
/sarcasm
Human lives aren't bargaining chips. Trying to justify civilian deaths with more civilian deaths is just cold-hearted.
Back on topic, I would take anything Cracked says with a grain of salt. Its meant to be satire first and foremost. I haven't played the game in question, but based on what I know it just sounds like a coincidence to me.
Also remember that Unova in only influenced by New York, I don't see Victory Road or the Pokemon League anywhere in New York, nor do I see why referring to the impact sight of a meteor as "Ground Zero" has any connotations to 9/11 other than the general term used to describe the sight of a disaster.
Seriously, ANY connotation between Kyurem and 9/11 is either a coincidence or you're looking into it too much.
Seriously, ANY connotation between Kyurem and 9/11 is either a coincidence or you're looking into it too much.
i thought of something really relevant too say to this but i wont my level of apathy toward the issue overrides my will to contribute.
Masuda confirmed that this was not their intent... pretty nutty coincidence, but it's only that, a coincidence... it seems sorta like what I like to call the Swastika Effect. before the Nazis, the swastika was a symbol of peace. but since WWII, everyone has associated the swastika with the Nazi party. just like how after 9/11, everyone associated the term "Ground Zero" with that one event. the way I see it, it's not so much people looking too deep into it as it is people putting the picture together the wrong way. it's based off of New York City and there's a big barren wasteland roughly where the Twin Towers were. this area is then hit by an object from the sky. this obviously isn't what Masuda was going for, but it just kinda popped up of it's own accord.
Off Topic: and to all the people going "9/11 wasn't THAT big a deal, stop WHINING.", please, fuck off and go troll somewhere else. yes, it was ten years ago. no, that does not mean that it's "no big deal". jokes are harmless, but to insinuate that the deaths of innocent men, women, and children magically un-tragic themselves after ten years is just flat-out horrible.
(alright, rant over)
Off Topic: and to all the people going "9/11 wasn't THAT big a deal, stop WHINING.", please, fuck off and go troll somewhere else. yes, it was ten years ago. no, that does not mean that it's "no big deal". jokes are harmless, but to insinuate that the deaths of innocent men, women, and children magically un-tragic themselves after ten years is just flat-out horrible.
(alright, rant over)